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Sadly, they are not the only bridal shop that orders you a size to big so you'll pay for alterations. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with them.
I do not see the implications of race in this post, other than your use of quotation marks around the word people. Is that supposed to imply that this shop is racist because she wanted to order a size bigger? I could understand calling it a rip-off, but that is a big accusation to throw around. And just be aware that these boards show up in Google searches, so if that business looks for its name, it can find this, so you may want to be careful about publicly accusing a business of something so serious without anything to offer as proof that race was the reason for this.
It's pretty standard for bridal shops to order a size up, especially if you are borderline between sizes. It's always easier to take a dress in than to let it out. Like it was mentioned before, unfortunately a lot of dress shops use alterations as a way to get more revenue in.
How is this racist? And yes this is unfortunately common practice.
If the dress is simply, could you do it yourself? I'd imagine a $200 doesn't have the complicated beading you'd otherwise be concerned about and as long as you use the RIGHT needle it's easy to take in the hips on a gown.
is it just me or am i the only one not getting why the title of this post "racist rip off"?????
I'm a street size 6 and my wedding dress was ordered in a 10. I have no idea what race has to do with this post.
How exactly is this racist? It seems like they just did what all other bridal shops do - order a size bigger. Like another poster said, it's much easier to take a dress in than to let it out. Just because she ordered a bigger dress doesn't make her a racist.
I was just up at Betsy Robinson's on Sunday and I had a lovely experience. The shop was recommended to me by someone who also had a great experience there. I'm a plus size girl & still felt welcome. My salesclerk was very nice and even hugged me before I left.
I'm sorry that you had a bad experience, but like others said, it's pretty common to order the largest size based on your measurements...this has nothing to do with what race you may be.
I'm also wondering how they were racist? That's really common for bridal shops to do, although not necessarily ethical, it doesn't seem racist.
I agree with Eshawn. Were is the racist element in this post. I'm African American and I would appreciate it if the race card is kept out of a situation is it does not apply. I you can show me how it applies, then you will have my full support.
Sorry you had a bad experience... but I wouldn't jump to conclusions and accuse people of being racist for something that is common practice in the bridal industry.
I agree with the previous posters. I don't get why ordering you a larger size is racist. Also, just because they ordered you a larger size doesn't mean they are racist. I sew a lot and I can tell you from experience that it is much easier to size a garment down than it is to size it up. Also, bridal gown sizes run much smaller than street sizes. I don't think they did anything wrong, but that is just my opinion.
I agree that this post does not sound of racism or racial discrimination. I also wanted to say I hate the phrase "pull out the race card" or "pull the race card". I think it is so condescending. TKS!
I don't have a problem with that phrase at all. Its not condecending in situations where it is true.
How did you receive the dress in the mail? I ordered my dress from Betsey Robinson's bridal as well. My experience with them was great. Not once did they not listen to any of my concerns or questions. I watched my consultant take my measurements and then check them against the manufaturers sizing guide. It was also explained to me that although I measured a 4 in nearly every area, my chest size measured a 6 and that is why they suggested ordering a 6 but would order the 4 if I wanted them too. I found the people who work there honest and up front. Not once did they try to waiver from my budget when looking at dresses. While it is never fun to have to pay more than expected, it is highly unlikely that any wedding dress you purchase is not going to need any alterations.
Well you are entitled to your opinion, but I find it condescending because it is often used to demean people when they have truly experienced racial affronts. Please remember it is impossible for someone to hide their racial identity and poof, surprise it on someone. It is a badge that they carry on their face everyday. Now the poster felt slighted for racial reasons. Whether that slight was justified or not is really unknown because she has not responded to the questions or comments on the situation. When you say she pulled a race card, you are putting your own judgment on the situation without precise knowledge of what happened to her. To me, it is somewhat hurtful and ill-informed. Just my simple opinion.
Hmmm... I'm intrigued too. The race issue is lost on me. This has happened to tons of people that I know, all of whom are of different races. It's crappy so I'm sorry you had this experience. The wedding biz is a tough one.
I'm thinking the oddest part of this post is that the original poster only has 1 post and it is on a very confrentational issue. I would't get too worked up about it until we hear back from her. Some people just like to stir the pot. There are always 2 sides to race issues. 1 side being those who have never experienced them. and the 2nd side people who have experienced them. Those sides will never see eye to eye. That's why "certain phrases" are tossed around so easily; & can be soo hurtful without even meaning them.
at least they ordered it too big. better to have more fabric to work with than not enough - which is what happened to me. my salon ordered it too small.
I've always had to order dresses that are too big. I just don't get the alterations done at the bridal shop-I go to my dry cleaners. lol. they do try to force everyone to get bigger dresses.
Sorry you had a crappy experience, but that's really common. You generally order a dress to fit the biggest part of your body and they tailor it down to size on the smaller areas so it fits you perfectly everywhere. It's easier to take it in for a custom fit than it is to let it out.
That said, I'm still not really understanding why this is racist?
it isnt. Bottom line. This is a common practice. And the OPs wedding was back in July (review was posted on weddingwire) so Im curious as to why this is now just arising..in either case, its frustrating, but its common
Just as a note to anyone who hasn't ordered their dress yet- when you get measured, ask to see the sizing chart even if your consultant doesn't readily show it to you. You should always pick your own size instead of letting someone else pick it for you (after all, you are the one paying for the dress). That way this type of thing can be avoided, racist or not.
I'm also confused about how you got your dress in the mail.
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Betsy Robinson’s Bridal Collection in Baltimore, MD is running a racket. Her stores sold me a dress and told me that my measurements were sizing at a 10 in the hips. For my adult life I have always been a size 6, but I figured they’re the HONEST expert’s right. Well NO!!! I explain this to Erin and she said she would order me an 8. Now I’m thinking, in the back of my mind, you just told me I was a 10 by measurements. I should have known something was up then. I got my size 8 in the mail and guess what; it was too big even in the hips.
So not only does Betsy want you to pay for the dress but built-in alterations cost as well. Because I have to now pay $80 plus tax so a $200 dress will fit. She was unwavering in accommodating me as a customer ever after I offer to settle to split the cost of the alterations. I will never do busy with her again and I hope you choose not to as well.
expect more from a business owner and the employees she has working. Now that I’m reading other bad reviews, I don’t know how she is still in business. You are not a valued customer after money exchanges hands. I guess some “people” are looked down upon to