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I personally have found the longer you put between the reception and ceremony the more people decide not to go to the reception. I was at a wedding and therer was only 2 hours between, and we went shopping and did stuff and then decided we just did not want to go to the reception. I was talking to my wedding planner at church and she said the same thing even if someone RSVP's they will more then likely go home (if they are in town), go shopping, to happy hour, or what not then just get comfortable with what they are doing and not go. Good luck.
Definitely agree, the longer the time in between the ceremony & reception, the more likely people will skip one or the other. Obviously, the people who really need to be there will be at both.
But for most guests, that is a really long day. If you factor in getting ready time and travel, they will start at noon which means at least an 8-12 hour day which is a lot to ask of guests (especially ones with kids that require babysitters).
If your heart is set on the two locations and times, just be OK with knowing that not everyone will be at both events.
ynichole - I'm in a similar situation. My ceremony is at 2 and my reception at 6. They are both at the same location, but I am not entertaining people for the time in between. I honestly cannot afford to do so. Most of my guests are local, so they can go home, grab a bite to eat, I dont' really care.
That is a pretty big block of time inbetween. I'd be tempted to have the reception backwards. What I mean is have it right after the ceremony, but start with cutting the cake, the first dance, etc. and then move into dinner last. You would probably lose some guests before dinner, but you'd end up getting to have a more intimate reception as the night went on. Or, you could just have an afternoon dessert reception.
Or seriously consider another date. We went in with three potential dates, in order to ensure that we could get our venues and vendors to all line up. If another date doesn't work, I would second the vote for an afternoon reception - late lunch buffet with cake perhaps. You can maybe schedule an afterparty for those who want to go drinking and dancing. It is really not reasonable to expect people to hang out for four hours in their good clothes in between the ceremony and reception, and if they go home, change, mow the lawn and walk the dog, its pretty unlikely that they will then shower and get dressed up for the second time that day for the reception. If you do decide to go with this, I would definately construct your RSVP cards with separate entries for ceremony and reception, as I think you will have a lot of guests who will choose to attend one or the other, but not both.
Thanks to everyone for your advice! Unfortuntely, changing the date is not an option. It seems, my only options are to either move the reception (cocktail hour) up to 5:00 or get married at a different church at 3:00p.m.
Would your venue do a luncheon instead? 4 hours is a really long time betweeen events. Luncheos are often less expensive because the food is lighter and people drink less. You could provide a snack later so that the party could last longer or you could use your money to move on to another location for an after party, a club or restaurant with music and perhaps a private area where you could provide some appetizers.
You could organize a tour of the area or some other type of event to pass the time in between. Perhaps a light lunch at a room at the hotel for people to snack on (trays of sandwiches and maybe salad) while they socialize. This way people are kept engaged witht he other guests and want to continue to spend time with them.
If you take the 3:00 option at a different church, and start cocktails at 5:00, that leaves about an hour - part of which will be taken up by the drive... that is quite a bit more reasonable. It still leaves your guests at a little bit of a loose end, but I think most people will be willing to tough it out (hang at the church chatting, stop at Starbucks on the way, take a little walk around the grounds at your reception). I would give that some serious consideration - much more convenient for everyone (including you!)
Both the ceremony and reception are in Philadelphia. So, assuming the weather is nice (fingers crossed) there is plenty to do and see for an hour or two in between.
We are also planning an after party. Did I mention it is also my 34th birthday!
A lot of guests are already planning on spending the night at one of the area hotels.
I'm considering suzanno's suggestion of separating the ceremony and reception on the rsvp card. The more I think about it, the more I realize that the people most important to us will be at both events regardless of where or when they are....
are you in center city, or philly suburbs? i think people can definitely entertain themselves in center city for a few hours...suburbs, not so much. i would have a list of "things that we love to do in philly" that you could give out to your guests (maybe include this in your program?).
Where are you having your ceremony and reception? I'm getting married in Philly too and I keep going back and forth with my FMIL about the timing of the ceremony and reception. She doesn't want any time at all between the ceremony and the reception and I want an hour for pictures without missing my cocktail hour. I agree with you that people can find plenty of things to do to occupy themsleves in Center City on a saturday afternoon or they can go back to their hotels and take a nap or something.
I don't think it will be that bad. Ours will be similar and almost every wedding I've been to has had a similar block of time between the wedding and reception. I'm Catholic, so it's very common to have the ceremony sometime before 2pm and the reception in the evening. For our wedding, I'm planning on suggesting a bar or someplace that people can go hang out if they want, but I'm not going to provide any snacks or anything; I can't afford it! I know when I was younger, I thought the time between was great because we could go back to the hotel and swim for awhile.
We'd be in CC, Philadelphia. The church we love is right off of Rittenhouse Square and only a few blocks form our reception site. I'm trying to rationalize that our guests will take a walk through the park, making their way back to their hotels, where they can freshen up or maybe even change before the reception.
I guess I could ask our parents to host the aunts/uncles and guests not staying in the city to a drink or some light snacks at the hotel bar.....
were getting married in old city. our original plan/ time left us with tons of time in between bc we're stuck w a 10am ceremony time. originally we planned a receiving line after the ceremony, followed by some light snacks in the church courtyard with mingling, then a trolley tour for guests. that still left people fending for their own lunch and a few hrs of wandering but since were in old city i figured people would want to sight see. in hind sight im really glad we DIDNT do that bc people from out of town would definitely have left the city early or not come into town at all. luckily things worked out bc the place we liked best for the reception was only available from 12-5. so altho it wasnt the plan, we ended up w an afternoon reception & are planning another party for 7:30. now everyone is staying for a few days & philly tourism board owes me a commission or something ;) anyway, i would work on looking at other churches to limit that time, bc as ive heard from my own guests, close family included, they would NOT have been happy wandering around in the summer heat waiting for a reception, and personally i think going back to your hotel is rather anti-climatic to such an exciting event. BUT if you dont want to switch churches, and dont want to move the reception up, and budget isnt too tight, i think you can work with the schedule to provide some inbetween entertainment. as long as the activity doesnt get guests too tired or too drunk, youll be okay for a dance happy reception!
I have been looking for reception venues in Philly that will let us start by 4:30. I have a 3:00pm wedding at the Basilica and do not want any sort of break in between. Most of my family lives in the burbs or Delaware and will not be at a hotel. They will not get the long break in between, and will probably go home. It has been hard to find a place that will let you in before 6. Or at least the places that I want ![]()
From what I am hearing, it is a good thing that we booked the Church first.
I didn't look at a single place in CC that would let you start the reception before 5:30 or 6. They all want to try and have another event in the morning so they want you to start your evening event as late as possible. I thought I was OK with a 6:30 cocktail hour but now that we don't have a location for the ceremony, I'm starting to get a little bit concerned. Especially now that FMIL is so against any time between the 2.
Where is everyone (that are getting married in Philly) having their reception?
Yogigal: I'm jealous that you're getting married at the Basilica!
I've been to a few weddings with big breaks in between and I have to say that a large number of people skip the ceremony. If you're comfortable with that, then go for it.
Don't worry angiepangie, and definitely don't let anyone talk you into a ceremony location or time that you don't want. Not even your FMIL. Can you have your ceremony at your reception venue? If you're looking for a church, i'm sure you'll find one within the city.
I've personally started to consider other churches that can have a 3:00 ceremony (most won't do it any later than that, due to Staurday evening services) and and will probably move the reception to 5:30
By the time the ceremony is over, everyone has filed out of the church, said hello to family and friends also at the ceremony, and either walks or drives and parks for the reception, it'll be 5:00 anyway! Guests can start to arrive a few minutes early and chat before the bar and food officially open.
Also, most of my girlfriends are already married and they all said I'll be glad to have a few minutes after pictures to have a quiet moment with my new husband and freshen up before the reception.
I'm ok with people skipping the ceremony (those who are truly important will be there no matter what) I am concerned that people will get bored and skip the reception while waiting in the city....
We're having a 1pm full Catholic mass and cocktails starting at 5pm. It has been the norm for most weddings I've attended. I've never noticed people skipping the ceremony or bailing on the reception.
My brother had a 1:30pm ceremony and cocktail starting at 3:30pm and everything felt a bit rushed. I like having a break to relax a bit in between, especially when I attend a wedding out of town.
We booked the church like two weeks after being engaged, so we lucked out. The wedding isn't until June '09, so I have some time to decide on the venue. (I think?)
Top of The Tower and Independence Visitor Center will let me in before 5. That seems to be it. The Fuel House is flexible too, but they are so expensive!
The other thing, we are not having a full mass (I'm not catholic) so I worry that it will be over before 4.
We're not having a full mass either. The ceremony will still be at least 45 minutes to an hour long. Our wedding is April '09 and we just recently booked our reception site. We were not entirely sure about having it in Philly, which is why we have not booked a church until now.
I would try to book your reception in the next momth or two, while you still have plenty of choices. I like partyspace.com for venue searching. It's all Philly/PA locations.
i've been to several weddings under the same circumstances and i've usually opted to skip the ceremony but go to the reception.
fuel house is UNBELIEVABLY expensive! we're actually getting married in delaware to save $$. it's tax-free and much cheaper.
We're getting married at the Down Town Club at 6th and Chestnut. I LOVE it!! When we walked in, I knew that it was the place that I had been dreaming of and the prices were in the average range for places in CC.
My problem is that we can't get in to do our ceremony until 6 with the cocktail hour starting at 6:30. I want time for pictures and I want to take pics outside so I need some decent light. FI and I also don't want to see each other before the ceremony, which is really interesting since he's Jewish (which is why we don't want to get married in a church) and that isn't a part of their ceremony. FMIL thinks I should just let some of these wishes go and have the ceremony at the DTC so that its easier for their friends. I still think that people will be able to occupy themselves for an hour or so and that I shouldn't compromise on my pictures so that other people don't have to pay for parking for the ceremony.
hey angie, we're having our reception at the DTC too! dont compromise on time for outdoor pics bc come on, youre in old city, there are so many awesome opportunities for great shots. on the other hand, ive seen great pics of ceremonies in the ballroom & it looks really good, but our ceremony is at a church a few blocks away.
side note: are you getting your cake from one of their bakers or bringing in your own?
I had thi sporblem in philly we were circled up at st patricks at 1, my fear was that my guests are very work hard play hard... in other words they would be at the irish pub or the continental or something in the 3-4 hours in between. Our recpetion is 6 hour open bar (and this was going to be a disaster with the break). All of this being said, I took the archdioceses map and called every parish nearby. I found one in the graduate hospital area that i smissing some of the amentities but is beautiful and the priest is awesome and now marrying us. So, we switched from st patricks to a church 3/4 a mile away.
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What does everyone think of having a 1:00 ceremony and a 6:00pm reception? The church we would like to getting married in is only available at 1:00 on our date.
The plus side is that we would have plenty of time for pictures after the ceremony and would not have to miss a second of the reception. The downside is that we may end up having a lot of guests (not staying in the city) skip the ceremony...