my florist is providing candles for us as part of the centerpieces.
1. she didn't even know about the fire permit until i told her we needed one (after our venue told me)
2. she then said it would "cost" $200 to get one, but my mom found out it's free.
3. the fire dept wants a mockup and my florist hasn't replied back in 4 days about providing a mockup.
who's responsibility is it to get the fire permit in the first place? did anyone else have a hard time getting one? the fire dept told us that our candle holders needed to be taped down to a non-mobile surface!
Is it in the contract that she will provide the fire permit? If so, then I don't think she will take responsibility for it.
Also, my personal sense is that a florist shouldn't have to get a fire permit; either the party or the venue should secure it and make a mockup (probably the party).
An alternative is to use led lights... if done well, they can work really really well!
the florist has nothing to do with having to get the permit. SHe's only responsible for what you asked her to do. The venue shoudl already have something in place if they allow candles. If they don't normally allow them, they have to give permission for them and either you or they have to get the permit. I don't know about that costing money. Our venue had a permit already, but we could only have enclosed flames, no open candles. We had the option of paying for the fire marshall to be there to allow for open flames at $50/hr.
my venue doesn't have a fire permit. they told us to get one.
but the fire dept is saying that we need to adhere the candle-holders to a large base that won't move... so i'm supposed to provide this to the florist to put the floral centerpiece on and for her to put the candles which she's providing?
We're having our wedding in downtown LA, and all the venues that we have checked out have told us that we needed a fire permit to have candles. They have a certain height requirement as well. So with this in mind all the florists that we checked out all knew that LA required a fire permit and they all said they would get one. It makes sense for the florist to get the fire permit because she has to do a mock up of the centerpiece. I know that the fire marshall usually does some simple tests here and there like slightly nudging it to see if it falls over etc. So if would be good for the florist to get it since she can set everything up, and also make adjustments if it fails to get a permit, etc.
On the other hand, if your florist is going to charge 200 to do it, then I say you should just do it, and save some money.
If your candles need to be adhered down i believe you can buy candle dots, or candle adhesive cheap online.
Even if the fire permit is free, I would expect your florist to charge you. After all, it takes more of her time to make and provide the mock-up, show it to the fire department... and time is money. If you don't want to pay her to do it, then you'll have to do it yourself. As far as the mock-up goes, you also might have better luck if you tell her when you need it, and ask about additional charges. Some florists automatically include a mock-up of the centerpiece, and some don't. Ours told us that she would do one in the shop for us, so that we could see it, but if we wanted to take it home we would be charged for it (which makes perfect sense to me). After all, once again she is not only spending time making the centerpiece, but having to provide extra materials.
The other requirement is more problematic, depending on what they mean by "non-mobile surface." If affixing the candle holders to a large mirror or a charger is acceptable, then that's not hard to do. But technicall something like that is mobile. You probably can't affix them to the table, as you'll have table linens. As far as what to use, I would look for earthquake putty. If you're in CA you can get it about anywhere. If not, you can order it online.
i'm a little frustrated.
my florist is providing candles for us as part of the centerpieces.
1. she didn't even know about the fire permit until i told her we needed one (after our venue told me)
2. she then said it would "cost" $200 to get one, but my mom found out it's free.
3. the fire dept wants a mockup and my florist hasn't replied back in 4 days about providing a mockup.
who's responsibility is it to get the fire permit in the first place? did anyone else have a hard time getting one? the fire dept told us that our candle holders needed to be taped down to a non-mobile surface!
posted by vee 172 posts 2 months agoIs it in the contract that she will provide the fire permit? If so, then I don't think she will take responsibility for it.
Also, my personal sense is that a florist shouldn't have to get a fire permit; either the party or the venue should secure it and make a mockup (probably the party).
An alternative is to use led lights... if done well, they can work really really well!
posted by mrbee 133 posts 2 months agothe florist has nothing to do with having to get the permit. SHe's only responsible for what you asked her to do. The venue shoudl already have something in place if they allow candles. If they don't normally allow them, they have to give permission for them and either you or they have to get the permit. I don't know about that costing money. Our venue had a permit already, but we could only have enclosed flames, no open candles. We had the option of paying for the fire marshall to be there to allow for open flames at $50/hr.
posted by dreambml 425 posts 2 months agooh...
my venue doesn't have a fire permit. they told us to get one.
but the fire dept is saying that we need to adhere the candle-holders to a large base that won't move... so i'm supposed to provide this to the florist to put the floral centerpiece on and for her to put the candles which she's providing?
posted by vee 172 posts 2 months agoWe're having our wedding in downtown LA, and all the venues that we have checked out have told us that we needed a fire permit to have candles. They have a certain height requirement as well. So with this in mind all the florists that we checked out all knew that LA required a fire permit and they all said they would get one. It makes sense for the florist to get the fire permit because she has to do a mock up of the centerpiece. I know that the fire marshall usually does some simple tests here and there like slightly nudging it to see if it falls over etc. So if would be good for the florist to get it since she can set everything up, and also make adjustments if it fails to get a permit, etc.
On the other hand, if your florist is going to charge 200 to do it, then I say you should just do it, and save some money.
If your candles need to be adhered down i believe you can buy candle dots, or candle adhesive cheap online.
posted by mamamiya 140 posts 2 months agomamamiya- we're also getting married in downtown LA. is the fire dept requiring you to glue/tape down the candle-holders?
we have met the height requirement easily...
posted by vee 172 posts 2 months agoEven if the fire permit is free, I would expect your florist to charge you. After all, it takes more of her time to make and provide the mock-up, show it to the fire department... and time is money. If you don't want to pay her to do it, then you'll have to do it yourself. As far as the mock-up goes, you also might have better luck if you tell her when you need it, and ask about additional charges. Some florists automatically include a mock-up of the centerpiece, and some don't. Ours told us that she would do one in the shop for us, so that we could see it, but if we wanted to take it home we would be charged for it (which makes perfect sense to me). After all, once again she is not only spending time making the centerpiece, but having to provide extra materials.
The other requirement is more problematic, depending on what they mean by "non-mobile surface." If affixing the candle holders to a large mirror or a charger is acceptable, then that's not hard to do. But technicall something like that is mobile. You probably can't affix them to the table, as you'll have table linens. As far as what to use, I would look for earthquake putty. If you're in CA you can get it about anywhere. If not, you can order it online.
http://www.sunsetent.com/Categories/quakesecure.html
posted by suzanno 1,955 posts 2 months agothe fire dept told me they would accept a large mirror or glass plate-type thing.
does anyone have pics of this as an example? i think it sounds ugly... but i've never seen it done.
posted by vee 172 posts 2 months ago