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2009 or 2010?!? with pros and cons. HELP!

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  • poll: 2009 or 2010? What do you think I should do?
    Get married in Aug 2009 : (9 votes)
    24 %
    Get married in 2010 : (26 votes)
    70 %
    Toss a coin or make it random. : (1 votes)
    3 %
    I have no idea. : (1 votes)
    3 %
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    artofkristen    November 11, 2011  

    Help us set the date, PLEASE!!!!!  Here are some pros and cons, regarding our situation...I know it's hard to figure it out if you're not in the situation, but what do you think?

    AUGUST 8, 2009

    - P R O S - 

    ~It's sooner [we have been engaged for over a year already]

    ~I can get all the planning done before I start grad school.

    ~We can be married before I start grad school [better health benefits, less to worry about while in grad school].

    ~No matter the date, I am having a very intimate wedding.  If we got married in 6 months, it would seem more out of necessity [starting grad school and whatnot] and I think the rest of my family that will not be invited to the ceremony wouldn't be as offended.  I don't know if that makes sense.

    ~For August 2009, we would be getting married about 1.5 months after my sister [June 09] and about 1.5 months before his brother [Oct 09].  This might seem like a negative point, but I like the idea of us getting married so close to each other.

     

    - C O N S -

    ~It's sooner, so there will be less time to save money, less time to lose weight, and less time to plan.  Not a big deal to me, but still a negative aspect.

    ~He doesn't want to get married that soon, for reasons he has trouble expressing [I know this sounds bad, I just don't know what to do about it].

    ~We have lived in my parent's basement for about 2 years and if we waited to get married, we could use some of the money to get an apartment.  My grandma insists we need to live together on our own before getting married...although we did live illegally together in a dorm for 6 months...

    ~If we get married sooner, we might end up being married and living apart for a while, because I might have to move away to go to grad school and he doesn't want to move with me [and leave a good job in this economy] until he has job security.  I don't really mind the idea of being married and living apart, but he does.

    ~My parents can't help with the wedding budget much if we get married this August because my sister set her date right away and they pledged a lot of money to her [thinking I wouldn't get married until 2010 or later.

     

    I'm having trouble thinking of pros and cons for 2010 right now.  Mostly because I'm frustrated, but also because the pros for '09 are basically the same for the cons for '10 and vice versa. 

    PLEASE HELP!  Another bee suggested I flip a coin, and I'm definitely considering that, but I still want to figure this out as much as possible.

     
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    Jeska June20    6/20/09   MD

    I said wait.  You'll appreciate the wait in the long run.  Your parents will be able to help you, you'll have more time to plan, and I think your fiance will appreciate it.  It doesn't matter about the people who aren't invited to your intimate wedding.  This is your choice to have a small wedding, regardless of the date.  So don't worry about that.  I know you're probably ansy but to me it sounds like you should definately wait.

     
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    artofkristen    November 11, 2011  

    True, I really shouldn't worry about offending people.  I'm trying not to, but it's still in the back of my mind...

    Thanks for your input!!!!!!! 

     
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    caliocteach    8/9/2008   California

    From my point of view if you have the ability to get married and be together without living apart, you should take it.  Start your marriage out on the right foot -- and if he wants to wait then that is the most compelling reason to wait

     
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    paigee    June 27, 2009   Louisiana

    I agree with calicoteach.  If he wants to wait, what other reason do you need? Especially if there is a chance you will move.  LD relationships suck...I'm in one right now; don't start your marriage that way.

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    bulldoggrl    10/3/09   Los Angeles, CA

    I;m with everyone else.  You shouldnt have to talk him in to getting married...

    I also agree with your Grandmother.  My FI and I are living together, and have been for 2.5 years.  On the toher hand, my step sister and her 'fiance have been living with his mother for years, and he doenst work (long story, lots of drama..) anyway, my parents are much more willing to help with my wedding than hers, since we have shown we are responsible adults.

    You'll be happy if you wait, instead of rushing it, I think.  Have all those negatives out fo your head.  And grad school will be difficult either way, married or not...your FI may just have to take over more of the planning duties.  I also agree that long distanc eis not the way to begin a marriage..if that turns out to be the case I would even consider waiting until grad school is over before getting married...

     
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    Tanya123      

     I say wait too.  Also, it will give you a chance to focus on grad school.  If you get married before grad school, family life can make things more difficult.

     
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    Erindesmar    October 17, 2009   Boston, MA

    I think you should wait til 2010.  It sounds like it may be the best decision, financially, and it seems like your fiancee is more comfortable with getting married then.  While women think of marriage as providing security in some way, men often look at it with more anxiety if they are not secure in a job. 

    Maybe you and your FI could save a little more in the next 6 months and try to move out on your own together.  I am a pre-marriage co-habitator and can't endorse it enough.

     
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    sgarrison2    August 14, 2010   Nashville, TN

    Another pro for 2010: years from now it'll be easier to remember how long you've been married! That's one of my reasons :)

     
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    danaadell    June 5, 2010   Austin/SA, TX

    waiting is no fun but i think that it would probably be best!  weddings are expensive and, hey, you'll only be engaged once so take advantage :)

     
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    cannotwait    February 1, 2009   TX

    Since you are already living together, I say just wait....also, not sure if this is a consideration, but you can usually get better financial aid for grad school when you aren't married...it sounds like you would be rushing your man with 6 mos...and HONESTLY, the short time to lose weight shouldn't matter...I know very few people that stick to a strict "wedding diet/workout plan" for more than 6 mos...our full engagement was 6 mos, and I didn't start kicking my butt into shape until 2 mos out, bc my schedule is just too psycho w/ work & school & wedding planning

     
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    mandalynn17    June 19, 2010   Medford, OR

    I agree with others.  If he's not keen on the idea of getting married this year (regardless of his reasons) then don't do it.  But then, I'm doing the same thing.  As much as I'd like to get married sooner rather than later, he wants to be established and settled before we get married so we decided on June 2010.  I'm enjoying getting time to relax and not having to make decisions everyday regarding the wedding. 

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    Niki    05/31/2008  

    Whoa, whoa, whoa!  Hold the phone.  Your post had a giant red flag in it and I think you need to look into it before you set a date, any date.  You said:

    ~He doesn't want to get married that soon, for reasons he has trouble expressing [I know this sounds bad, I just don't know what to do about it].

    Figure out what is on his mind.  I'm serious.  Hold off on any talk of wedding until you find out what this is all about.

     
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    artofkristen    November 11, 2011  

    Thanks for the advice and the votes, everyone.  I tried to be extremely objective when listing the pros and cons, and it seems like everyone is going for the "wait", despite what I truly want.  I can't imagine being engaged for another year and a half or more, because it seems like forever already, but it also seems like I don't have much of a choice.  

    And I know that is a huge red flag.  It's hard for him to express himself and tell me the why on things....he's always been that way and we've been together for 4 1/2 years, known each other longer.   It seems that I'm taking offense to his wanting to wait, and as much as I don't want to pressure him, I don't want to wait.  Everyone involved here is voting for 2009 except him...my mom, sister, grandma [even though she thinks we need to move out first].  But I felt like they were saying that because they know I would be sooooo happy and because they can't understand his reasons not to.  Heck, he doesn't even understand.  I think he's really nervous, like Erindesmar said above, and sees it as  a huge responsibility that he's worried about in today's economy and all.  

    Sorry this is so long and complicated.  Such is my life.  And wedding planning. 

     
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    driftslikesmoke    January 2, 2010   Atlanta, GA

    I'm wondering why being engaged for longer feels like a bad thing for you? I know that the idea of getting married as soon as possible can be exciting, and it's easy to want to just get to the being married part.

    Still, in the current economy, it definitely makes sense to establish yourselves as much as possible (both financially and emotionally - Niki is right about that red flag) before spending any large sum on a single party. 

    How about having a small ceremony now with just your families to take care of the benefits and quiet your eagerness to be married, then throw the party celebrating it and have a vow renewal for the rest of your guests to witness in a year or so? 

    I hope that helps! Good luck!

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    artofkristen    November 11, 2011  

    I definitely see what you mean...I think this is where he's coming from, too.  I had a hard time understanding his point of view because I was so stuck on my own, and he wasn't able to explain much.  

    Basically, regardless of the date, there will be 15 people max at the ceremony, and a big[ger] reception later [days, months, a year later, who knows...whenever we have the funds together as a family].  However, he's still not keen on the idea, and I agree that Niki is probably right on that red flag.  I am very ansy...I'm looking for that security because we have so many big life changes ahead.

    Thanks again everyone.  I really appreciate the advice and sounding board. 

     
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    fizicsGirl    8/1/2009   Michigan

    I'm one of the people who voted to wait.  You mentioned in a different post something about how he wants to work on improving your communication issues, though you don't say too much about them.  But if he's saying that's what he wants (to work on improving an aspect of your relationship that he feels needs it), it sounds like a really good sign for your future marriage and a good reason to wait...or at least put off deciding.  It sounds like he takes having a good relationship very seriously, and that he wants to be able to enter your marriage with more openness than he can currently achieve for whatever reason.  As Niki says, what if you guys focused on talking about that instead of about the wedding date?  It might help him get to being able to articulate what his reasons for wanting to wait are...or maybe help him figure out that they aren't a big deal.  But either way, it's sounding like he's a pretty shy person who has trouble expressing his feelings...and the pressure to decide about the wedding date is just making it harder.  But either way, I think focusing on the wedding date is getting in the way of focusing on your relationship.  Whatever you decide about the wedding date, if you end up in an LDR it's going to be much harder to work on these things (I say this with *a lot* of LDR experience).  So maybe it would be better to put the energy into your relationship now and wait on the wedding planning.  I know I had a really hard time with the idea of getting married, and I really couldn't explain why.  And it took just giving myself the space not to think about marriage and only to think about us to realize what my hesitations were and that I was ready to overcome them.

     
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    artofkristen    November 11, 2011  

    Thanks very, very much for your input.  This is helping me out a lot.  I want to have at least one more conversation with him about it, but I think you guys are right about this.  I do feel crappy about myself for wanting to get married sooner if he doesn't.

    Before we moved in to my parent's basement [and before we illegally lived in a dorm room together] we did have a long distance relationship...'casually' for about a year and then 'seriously' for another year, then he moved in with me because it got pretty difficult.  So although we do have some LDR experience, it's been 3 years since we've lived apart and I do agree that it would probably be a bad idea to start off our marriage like that.  

    He recently transferred to a third-shift position for *much* better pay, so I don't see him much these days.  Hense my rush to weddingbee for advice...thanks for enduring my rambling indecisiveness!!! 

     
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    driftslikesmoke    January 2, 2010   Atlanta, GA

    Oh, Kristen, I don't think anyone is trying to make you feel crappy for wanting to get married sooner rather than later! This is a really exciting and fun transition! Of course you'll want to get there soon! I don't know a woman who doesn't feel that way at some point during the planning. :) 

    Please, please don't feel badly for wanting to get married sooner than he does. If you have a happy relationship, that's really all that matters. 

     
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    artofkristen    November 11, 2011  

    I only feel crappy because I really DO DO DO care about what he wants, immensely, but I felt that he was being unreasonable and had ulterior motives of wanting to put it off.  I think he was probably just being ultra-logical, and...admittedly, I'm a dreamer.  

    I think you're all probably right and I just needed to hear it from someone else, though I do feel disappointed and sad that it's now soooo far away [longer than we've already been engaged, which feels like a looong time].  But I'll get over it.  I just need to remind myself that I'm not losing the whole wedding, just the "anytime soon" part.

    On a happier note, [but I know this is getting long, and I'm sorry] I thought of some additional pros to waiting until 2010:  

    ~Originally, he was going to have to ask for [and hope for] "personal time off", unpaid, because he recently transferred and doesn't have vacation hours until about September/October 2009.  He will be able to take vacation hours if we wait [unless we end up having to move and he has to get a new job altogether].  

    ~There's no way we could afford to have a real honeymoon if we got married this summer.  If we wait until 2010, maybe we could even take a DREAM vacation somewhere amazing!  That got me really excited...just wanted to share.

     
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    JanieLeigh    May 22, 2010   Virginia

    personally, i think you should wait until after grad school. you definitely don't want to live apart during your first year of marriage. our engagement will be a week away from two years when we get married, but i seriously don't regret it. we were going to get married sooner, but we decided to wait until we were done with school... one of the best decisions we've ever made! i would've LOVED to get married last year or to get married this summer. i want to be his wife very badly, BUT i know that waiting until after we're both graduated is going to really pay off in the long run. hope that helps!

     
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    hisMrs    October 11, 2009   San Diego

    I agree with most of the people that have responded. I think it would be best for y'all to wait a bit. It sounds like your fiance has a few issues that are extremely important for him to solve before you guys make things permanent. Also, if you did it earlier, since your parents have already promised so much money to your sister, you might feel a little unimportant knowing that your parents won't be able to help you out much. I know I would. I am feeling that way now and my sister got married 6 years ago.

     Just remember, there is not rush. You have the rest of your lives to be together!

     
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    Miss Burgundy    May 28, 2010   Southern California

    I say wait. Don't rush the wedding stuff! If you have a solid relationship there is no need to rush the wedding:)

     
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    saramari    08.08.09   Midwest

    I agree with the others that it might be best to wait. I thought that I wanted a short engagement (we've been together for 8 years), but in retrospect I've really appreciated the extra time to plan and also to adapt emotionally to what it means to be engaged. It was a big adjustment for me, and I'm really happy that we waited.

    I'm currently in grad school, and it hasn't been *too* bad to plan a wedding and attend class/teach at the same time. Actually, wedding planning is sometimes a nice respite from the rigors of academia. I'm not sure how long your program is, but it will be totally possible to plan the wedding during grad school if that's what you guys decide that you want to do.

    Best of luck!

     

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