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Hi ladies.  Our last thread - http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/the-6-months-038-up-club-part-4 - was starting to ghost, so let's continue the conversation here.

To those of you just joining us - WELCOME.  I hope everyone's stay here is short and sweet.

MGG - re: spotting at 13 DPO:

FF unfortunately does not have an option to search for late cycle spotting.  However, I usually spot 3-4 days before CD1, and have received some conflicting info from FF on my chart.  Here is everything I know:

• For all charts experiencing mid-cycle spotting (spotting that occurs anywhere from the end of AF to the start of a new cycle), 26% were pregnant and 57% were ovulatory.  A shocking 10% were annovulatory, which is the highest percentage of annovulatory charts I have ever seen in a chart search result.
• Of pregnant charts experiencing mid-cycle spotting, a shocking 100% were pregnant.  I have never seen a chart search that did not include at least 3-4% miscarriage, so that is pretty impressive.
• Of the pregnant charts that show mid-cycle spotting, the spotting predominantly (83% of the charts I looked at) occurred at O.  A few charts showed spotting at implanation, but that is pretty rare.  Pregnant charts that showed spotting right before AF was due showed spotting at 13-14 DPO.

As I think has been well-established in this thread, you are NOT supposed to spot at all before AF is due - your period should just start, full-blown.  Spotting before usually indicates low progesterone or endometriosis.  Because of this, FF sees spotting before AF is due as a strong pregnancy indicator.  In the past when I have spotted around 12-14 DPO, I get a message that says something like "3% of pregnant charts show spotting at 13 DPO, 56% more than for non-pregnant charts."  (Obviously, this has screwed with my head every month because I always have spotting around this time.)  Additionally, some google research indicates 20-30% of women experience spotting in early pregnancy, usually 1-2 weeks after implanation (read: now).

Again, disclaimer - these are only statistics and really mean nothing until you get a BFP or AF. 

With all of this information, I am of two minds - (1) you had spotting at 13 DPO last cycle and were not KU, so I don't want to get your hopes up.  (Do you often have spotting before AF?  If yes, my hopes are lower.  If last month was a fluke, they go up significantly.)  On the other hand - (2) Combined with your near-positive OPK results, and the fact that this was an IUI cycle, I would say the spotting is a very positive sign and would give you full leave to go take a real test (and you know I am not one to spread positivity where I don't see a ton of hope).  Of course, all that matters is how YOU feel.  So how do you feel?

@elchalten:  Silver lining - the possibility of a spring baby instead of a holiday bundle of joy!  I know this was a really hard decision, but it sounds like you and your husband are making the right decision for *you*, which is the only thing that matters.  Good luck with your intense treatments - I am hoping for you!

@2PeasinaPod:  I love hearing your updates - definitely gives me hope that good things CAN happen (something I desperately need this month - I have finally reached the end of my hope, I think).  Keep the updates coming and congratulations on a strong heartbeat (must be the best sound in the world)!

@MrsMaine:  I think I see, I think I see...  Wednesday's super low temp is also a positive O sign (pre-O dip).  Regarding your lack of BD, I think it actually *does* matter if you O anyway - having an unmedicated ovulatory cycle is much, much better than annovulatory one.  (You are off meds this month, right?)

@MrsMaine:  I think if you last BD'ed 6 days ago then you should BD tonight even if it is too late.  Your marriage will thank you.  :o)

@septcabride:  Your research is fantastic as always, thanks : )  I ALWAYS spot, so bad sign.  But it is good to know all of the info anyway.  I'm holding out about 5% hope right now...

@2PeasinaPod:  I'm very glad everything is going well! 

Since I am feeling like the resident stat girl today (note: real life Stat Boy and his wife live a block away from me IRL), here are some interesting ones I pulled off-line this afternoon.  Good or bad, depending on how you look at them...

IF everything is going exactly right (good timing, ovulation, correct LP, hormonal balance, good male factor, etc.), you have a 15-25% chance of conceiving per cycle (15% for over 35, 25% for under 25, if you are around 30, you chance is about 20%).  For these same super-healthy, super fertile couples, 85% will be pregnant within 12 cycles.

For healthy couples:

• 25% couples get pregnant in 1st cycle TTC
• 60% within 6 months
• 75% in 9 months
• 80% in a year
• 90% in 18 months 

Average conception timelines by age (regardless of health/problems):

• Early twenties: 4-5 months
• Late twenties: 5-7 months
• Early thirties: 7-10 months
• Late thirties: 10-12 months

@septcabride:  Ag!  I'm off both charts!  : /

@elchalten:  On FF, the average time to conception for age 30 is 7.3 months, so that means that it takes half the people longer than that.  I am seeing the positivity in that (as I am also 30...).  :o)

ETA:  The FF statistics only show months CHARTING, so they are saying it takes an average of 7.3 months actually knowing and tracking your cycle to get KTFU.  And most people don't start charting until after trying without for a few months.  (Well, not my Type A self, who started charting before TTC, but that's a whole other therapy session.)

@Mrs Green Grass:  I am spreading the statistics love to other threads now - so, see?  All that info about mid-cycle spotting will not be wasted.

http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/early-pregnancy-symptoms-tmi

@elchalten:  Alright!

And, nope, no such luck - at 31 it only goes up to 7.7 months (I checked because I am very quickly approaching that birthday time).

I just passed my 31 1/2 bday...PLEASE let me be pg before 32!! (Not because 32 is old or scary, but just because I can't handle many more bbdays unsuccessful!

@Mrs Green Grass:  I know, right?  I always said I wanted 3 kids before 35.  Ummm, my body needs to start cooperating AND I'm gonna need some multiples to make that happen at this point.  The best laid plans...

@elchalten:  I think taking a break is a good idea. It'll allow you to focus all your Qi on getting healthy and in balance. I'm glad the wheatgrass wasn't too bad for you. What brand are you taking? I'm doing GreenSuperFood by Amazing Grass. I've been drinking the Berry flavor, but just tried the Orange Dreamsicle OMG it tastes AWESOME!! Still a little gritty, but the taste makes up for it. I don't think it should be a problem with juice. I'm just avoiding juice because it tends to make my blood sugar spike.

@septcabride:  Very interesting stats--keep them coming! Any stats for over 40? Actually don't tell me, they are never good... Also weird, I just spotted last night which I'm assuming is ovulation spotting. I've never heard of this before (I'm sure I just didn't pay attention to it since it never happened to me). Apparently, it's a 'great sign of fertility"-- Yay egg!!

@2PeasinaPod: So glad things are going so great. I love to hear about sucess stories, so keep 'um coming!!

@elchalten:  Just knowing that you are also following this crazy diet and TCM just makes me so happy. It's nice to know I'm not alone (my IRL BFF is supportive, but thinks I'm nuts lol). Have a great weekend!

I'm just in a waiting game this month, according to the OPK I got a surge, whether I actually ovulated or not who knows. We did time BD right so I guess I'm in the 2WW. Which would have me test around the 18th. But I could also get AF that day as I have had 23 day cycles numorous times. On cycle Day 1 I'm to call the Re to schedule lots of bloodwork at specific points and an HSG. So I guess it's wait and see and try not to think about things too much. Igive up trying to chart my numbers were everywhere, maybe because I'm a mouth breather?

Smarties - I will look up stats for you any time, dear!

Everyone else - temping "internally" is 100 percent the way to go. :o). You'll know when it's in the right place.

Smarties - I will look up stats for you any time, dear!

Everyone else - temping "internally" is 100 percent the way to go. :o). You'll know when it's in the right place.