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Hi bees! First of all, thank you for reading this post! It's not for me, but a fellow bride-to-be of mine. She's nervous about posting because it's such a hot-button issue, so I promised her I would do it and relay all your good advice! My friend got engaged late last year and set her wedding date for next summer. Her fiance's brother's girlfriend (we'll call her Spuds) was less than thrilled, since she and her fiance's brother had been dating longer. Spuds is pretty mean, but in that sneaky I'm going to screw you over with a smile on my face way. She ignored my friend the day they got engaged and afterward was really mean to her in regards to all the wedding planning. Think "That's so tacky. I would never do that." Well, Spuds has also been putting the pressure on her boyfriend to propose to her (she gave him an ultimatum) and finally he did a mere month ago. Well, Spuds has decided to get married this winter (before my friend). It kinda hurt my friend's feelings (these girls have a hard time getting along, because Spuds is just so sneaky about things and wants to be the family favorite) but she let it go. That's when trouble started. Spuds started asking my friend "for help and advice" on wedding stuff. She would ask my friend what she was doing, and then SHE would go and choose the same thing!!!! She is already using one of her colors, and she's also using the EXACT same reception food. I guess I'm making it hard to understand, but I've been friends with my pal for a while and I've seen what Spuds is capable of. She's having the wedding where the fiance's parents got married to continue tradition because my pal "didn't care whether people came to her wedding or not because it's so far away." She can't help it if that's where her hometown is! The worst part is though, after much debate, my friend sent a picture of her wedding dress because Spuds said she wanted to make sure "she didn't get anything like it." SHE BOUGHT THE EXACT SAME ONE!!! My friend has attempted to talk to the family about it but it hasn't been well received. The worst part is that it's putting a damper on all my friend's wedding planning. ANY advice? You bees are the best!<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre">
Well ... I hate to state the obvious ... but your friend needs to keep her lips zipped about wedding stuff, not just to "spuds" but to any family member who may be tempted to blab. Knowing how this chick is I cannot fathom why your friend would be so shortsighted as to tell "spuds" anything at all.
She should probably also sell or try to exchange her dress and get another one (and not tell "spuds") and I would even change up the reception food to something totally different and unique
My friend unfortunately is subject to a lot of family pressure from her fiance's end. If his mother doesn't end up telling her first, then Spuds makes sure to ask my friend right in front of her. She doesn't want to be rude, and she feels like her hands are tied because this girl makes it seem as if she's interested, and that's she's excited my friend is getting married because soon they'll be family. My friend has taken in to consideration changing the food, but she's wanted this from the start and doesn't want to change her wedding for this girl.
Wow. That sounds like a MESS. =/ Spuds is definitely playing dirty.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure there's anything your friend can do other than refuse to share any details of her wedding plans with Spuds. And try to get a different dress, if possible (if not, she shouldn't really worry -- brides all look so different on their wedding days, and while some people will notice, it's not like other people have never worn that dress before!).
Pass along hive *HUGS* to your friend!
Like Ms Mini said, she should avoid telling any family members that might blab too.
And in order to avoid the awkward conversations, she could always lie. *shrugs* It sounds bad, but really, what Spuds is doing is awful. And if simply saying "oh, well I'm thinking of THIS" (instead of THAT) will fix that...then so be it. =) If, come the day of the wedding, Spuds or a family member comments on the fact that they weren't told the truth, have your friend say "Oh, well after Spuds' wedding, I saw how similar they were going to be, and hurried to change them! I didn't want it to look like I was copying someone else's wedding!". (HAH to Spuds.) If she doesn't want to be so in-your-face with the comment, she could always just make a vague mention of how she can never make up her mind, hah hah, and so she just decided on something else, but forgot to mention it.
Tell he to repeat this line "Me and FH have decided we want to keep the details about our wedding a surprise, so I can't tell you X" ... she has to say it over and over so it is the automatic reply to every wedding related question
Wow, drama! I second everyone who says your friend definitely needs to keep her mouth shut about her wedding details, even if it means just flat out not responding to Spuds. It might be too late to change some of the things she's already told and that have then been copied, but maybe some parts of it can be changed up a little by her wedding. The one bit of silver lining is that since Spuds' wedding is first, your friend can definitely observe during it and then switch up things to make hers different when it comes around. Best of luck to your friend and tell her to remember no matter what, it WILL be her and her fi's special day when it does come-- no one can take that from them.
Yeah, I agree. Spuds is sneaky and your friend should just stop letting her in on wedding plans. If Spuds says something to about her, your friend could simply say "We really want our wedding to be unique and a surprise to all our loved ones, so we aren't sharing a lot of details". I'd also tell your friend to tell her FI to zip his lips too... just in case he shares any info with his brother in passing.
Friend, you need to:
1) Tell your FMIL about the dress situation. Be as sweet as possible about it, but THE DRESS is where I draw the line. It should be known what she did. All you have to say is, "This weekend is going to be a fun one, my bridesmaids and I are going shopping for a new wedding dress! At first I was really disappointed that Spuds chose to get the exact same wedding dress that I had already bought, but I'm getting excited about finding something really different and special!"
2) Get a different dress. Get a fabulous one! You can sell your old one online for a good price.
3) Change all your wedding details that she's copied. I know you love your colors and your food, but sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. The hive can help you come up with awesome new ideas! You have the benefit of more time than she does, you can come up with something really unique.
4) Don't tell any of the wedding details anymore and instruct your fiance to do the same. Like someone else said, tell EVERYONE in your fiance's family -- "We want the details to be a surprise!" If you are pressured, LIE. I know its hard, but its required.
5) Keep your chin up. You are SO much better than her.
I hate to say it, I would first of all feed false info to her.
And as for the stuff she's already stolen/copy cat-ted? Id take her off to the side, be as dead calm as I can be and say "I have you know..I will let everybody know that you did this. There will be no secret about this. I will NOT smile and nod and it will not go away. Now go get out there and either hire a coordinator who can make up for your lack of creativity and good taste or go buy yourself a Martha Stewart Weddings book..here's a $5 in case you're too lazy".
I'm older now, I don't take crap anymore. Especially not from a relative.
It was hilarious. After I married my xh (had a huge, gorgeous, wedding with a hotel reception) all my cousins afterwards (other cousins had been married in churches and did their church reception hall for the reception) wanted a reception in a hotel. And of "COURSE" they wanted songs from Broadway musicals sung at their weddings AND had to have a harpist! (I had songs from Phantom and Jekyll and Hyde at my wedding and a fabulous harpist too for when I went down the aisle).
I might do the harpist and strings this time..but it is OK for ME TO STEAL MY OWN GOOD IDEAS!!! lmao.
I agreee completely with bellenga on both counts. Give her false info, and then tell her you're not standing for this crap. Grr!
Well they say imitation is the greatest compliment but this is just ridiculous. Spud sounds a little... shall we say unhinged? I would tell your friend to do her best to be direct with SPUD and tell her that she will not share any more details of her wedding because she has already stolen her menu, her colors, and her wedding dress. I would then reassure your friend that everyone will eventually discover how venomous this little SPUD is and her future is unlikely to be very happy or easy. Sometimes, just being your own best self and not rising to the bait is the way to avoid the drama and nastiness.
Good luck!
I agree with those who said 'false info'...it's the best thing to do! My sister had a friend who was kinda weird about finding out all of her details and using them too-it got to be REALLY obvious when she asked about what the groomsmen would be wearing and when my sister replied "baby blue with ruffles" the girl thought that sounded great and started thinking about it. She really needs to go with MUMS THE WORD! BUT, bright-side is this: it's her wedding day and it's really about coming together with the one person who will make her feel whole for the rest of time; we all get so caught up in the fun and the glamour and romance, but really, it's all there without the fancy apparel and fragrant florals; in the end all the little things are just that-little things. BEST OF LUCK!
She should say she has changed her mind about her colors. They are fuschia lime green damask orange and purple and she's going for a circus theme. She will have the circus theme playing when she walks down the aisle and she's chosen the most gorgeous non-traditional dress. I mean seriously. She should invite the idiot to be her MOH to keep her as close as can be, or change her hair dye a la Anne Hathaway in Bride Wars. I mean seriously how immature is it to BUY THE SAME DRESS. Has your friend already bought it? Maybe she can choose a different dress or move her wedding up to this FALL. This really bothers me.
Sneaky Spuds is going to regret these decisions 20 years from now since she didn't make any of them with either of her 2 hemispheres of the brain... As for your pal, I'd say she do whatever she's been planning but not share her choices. If she's been wanted the food from a place since she was 7 years old, she should stick with it. No sneaky snake should make her change her plans. I do understand that she wouldn't want to be compared, but this Spuds can't possibly take ALL her ideas right? Okay, I need to go get some water. Spuds is making me thirsty...
Spuds is going to regret that all her wedding related items do NOT show her truly self. I’m there with the girls that said “false info” show her the ugliest bridesmaid dresses lol feed her with the ugly!!
And yup there should be a way to stop her, that is soooo not fair that she’s playing THAT dirty and no one notice it!! Gggrr!
I agree with the pps. My goodness. But I also wonder how your friend relates to her FMIL. If Spuds thinks shes can be sneaky and ask right in front of FMIL, so that your friends doesn't feel like she can refuse, then maybe friend can talk to FMIL. Could she say to her, that they two don't get along and that when she shares info, Spuds copies it? (And that if it seems weird when Spuds asks about wedding plans, that she clams up, it'sbecause of that.)
I'm with Belle too. At this point, I wouldn't care if she did ask me in front of my FMIL, I would say right in front of FMIL, "I'm not telling you one more thing about my wedding. You lied about wanting to know my wedding dress to get a different one. Then bought the same dress. You ask me all kinds of questions then steal my ideas." Hopefully that will embarrass her enough.
Is it possible Spuds really isn't stealing her ideas, just making her think she is to mess with her? When Spuds told her, showed her the dress she bought, what did your friend say? Sorry, but I think your friend might need your help in developing some courage and smart strategies in dealing with Spuds.
Also, when is your friend getting married? It sounds like she's getting married in the summer, and Spud's wedding is several months prior, and in completely different season. I think your friend should play up the benefits of the season, that Spuds can't possilby utilize. How about an outdoor cocktail hour? Is it possible for her to have an outdoor ceremony? I'm all for helping people like your firend put people like spuds in their place. Be sure to have her come on here for ideas.
Thanks bees for all of the wonderful advice! I've passed it along to my friend, and she said she's going to try the "false information" ploy and after their wedding is over, go back to the original plans and tell everyone she changed her mind. I feel for her, because I know she and her FMIL have talked it about it and directly addressed this issue. My friend told her FMIL her concerns and the FMIL was very reassuring. Even still, every time my friend has been less than forthcoming, she's been getting the cold shoulder from her fiance's family. I don't want to give too many incriminating details away (I don't doubt Spuds is on here somehwere, lurking...), but at my friend's engagement party, all Spuds could talk about was HER wedding! I am engaged as well, (obviously) but I didn't talk about MY plans because it wasn't MY party!
I am disgusted with this girl. Next time I'm nearby Atlanta, I'd love to come slap her across the face--I know that sounds SO harsh but wedding plans are so personal! They're what make your day so YOU! GRR! My best friend is getting married too but god knows I would never steal her plans--she wants paper lanterns, for example, so I decided to avoid them just because I know they were something she really, really wanted.
This girl is just tasteless. I would definitely take bellenga's advice and say something to her! (I can be kind of hot-headed sometimes.. hehe) Then in front of the FMIL, not only tell them what you're "doing" (false info) but give options for bad things! Not only will she have to choose from bad options but also, choosing from those bad options makes it uniquely... bad.
I feel sorry for the FBIL in this. I mean, who wants to marry that?!?! Hopefully he finds out sooner than later about her.
I would also be feeding ehr false information. There is no way I would be able to deal with that.
I wouldn't just let it go either, I would let people know. And if she continues to ask everyone, just don't tell anyone what is really going on. Just tell her to say she's having trouble deciding on things, and there's no final choices yet. Then when she gives out "ideas" it won't be a total surprise when the wedding is completely different.
Holey Moley! At first I was reading along, thinking spuds was just pulling out all the typical, sneaky-girl tricks. But I almost fell out of my seat when I read about the dress. That is too dirty and WAY over the line! Tell your friend I send her (((HUGS)))
If it were me, I would be past the point of feeding her false info. I would flat out tell her that given her past behavior, I won't be sharing anything else. I wouldn't feed into drama or fight with her, but she needs to understand it's not cool. And definitely don't let spud know any of your favorite baby names! Best of luck for your friend. :)
Cinemaparadiso -- I've already volunteered to go see Spuds and give her a piece of my mind! Since my friend and I are both getting married, I've also avoided some things that she's chosen, since I definitely didn't have my heart set on the same thing. This girl really is just horrible. She just does it so everyone thinks she's so sweet and just really wants my friend to be involved in the planning. After the day my friend got engaged and Spuds was SO RUDE to her, I've considered her a snake in the grass. AND, when they had a celebratory dinner the next weekend with her FH's family, Spuds wouldn't even let the FBIL attend! They went "elsewhere" to eat. I just wish she would be a little bit more respectful of my friend, her feelings, and every bride's right to have a unqiue wedding reflective of their OWN personalities!
Spuds is bad news. She sounds like she may have some kind of mental disorder, if I were your friend I would absolutely stop telling her any details (just tell her to smile and say it's a surprise), pick a different dress (or if her heart was set on that particular dress that's still fine b/c brides all look very different and the guests will be 50% different at least) and decide not to let any of it bother her any more.
I'm glad to hear your friend is going to feed false info. =)
(I still like the idea of taking a subtle dig at Spuds after the wedding by being all "Oh, yes, I know I said I was going to do X, but after Spuds did it, I didn't want to steal from her wedding!".)
Haha, you bees aren't going to believe this... this girl will stop at nothing. My friend recently had her engagement photos taken and obviously both families got to look at the proofs. Well, apparently Spuds had engagement photos taken as well without telling anyone, so no one even knew they were doing them until their pictures were posted on the photographer's web site. Spuds and the FBIL wore the exact same colors as my friend! My friend looked better, though (haha, okay, so I'm a little biased). My friend is also including her dog in the ceremony (ring bearer) and Spuds and co. mentioned they might like to do that with their dog. Spud's venue allows for pets under certain conditions and my friend knows the site coordinator. They were talking about it today and my friend said, "Yeah, it's just too bad he's not house-trained yet." HAHA!
I think someone already referred to "Spuds" as unhinged, but she really must not have any brains. I mean, don't we all have dreams for our wedding day? How is she going to feel when she looks back on this day in 10 years (or in a week when they get divorced) and she hates everything..
@pvaulter718 after that last post from Bridetobee, that's exactly what I was thinking!
I will say that I've gotten caught up in name brands thinking "ooh I might want that!" a couple of times just because of the brand/whatever, but i stepped back and chose something more "us"... how could you totally rip off someone else's wedding and feel like it's yours?
I mean that's more than just copying... thats literally having no personality. Seriously, what does FBIL think of this wedding?
FBIL is basically just listening to everything Spuds is saying, and keeps on saying "He doesn't see why it's such a big deal." He's even stirred the pot a little telling members of his family that my friend is getting angry over nothing and refuses to be Spud's friend. Spuds actually gave FBIL an ultimatum regarding a proposal deadline and he (caving to pressure) obviously met it. I think more than anything, she just wants to get married -- not have a marriage. And, she creates this false sense of fierce competition between my friend and herself. My friend could really care less who's the "better" DIL, but Spuds has to turn everything into some sort of contest.
That's just really sad, I mean, honestly... I feel bad for your friend, but at least she can live the rest of her life knowing she will never be like that.
Good luck to her!
Honestly it sounds like this marriage may not last (Spuds' that is). If he was forced into proposing..maybe it won't happen at all and he'll wake up to her absolute nuttiness. One can only hope right? Just tell your friend to keep her head high, and definitely feed the false info. she is 150x better than this shady chick, and she shoudl rest easy knowing that! I mean, just wow! What is wrong with her?!!
The dress thing happened to a friend of mine as well! She described her dress to her FH's friend's fiance, and she went out and bought the same dress from the same store. She was devastated! She ended up selling her old dress and buying a new one that she loves even more. Hopefully your friend can do the same. Right now, "spuds" is making it look like your friend copied off of her. So sad...I'm so sorry for your friend! Tell her to keep her chin up! She's very lucky to have a friend like you to help her through!
HAHAHA so i was so disgusted by what this Spuds wench has done, that i went straight to the end to comment that she was a biatch, and i also wanted to write something along the lines of "punching her in the face" ahhaa but i thought that it was gonna be a bit much! after reading some of the other bee's comments though, i realize that i am not the only hot tempered bee! lol.
I feel for your friend though, and I agree with either keeping tightlipped about her wedding plans or feeding her false information..although the latter might take extra effort and make you feel bitter while planning?
mlkeysock, that is one of my friend's concerns. I would say there's a good 75% who will be attending both weddings, and she's afraid it's going to look like she copied Spuds. And for those of us who aren't in the know, it kinda does. My friend wanted me to pass along that she appreciates all your support, and we actually did some investigation and found out one of Spud's BMs is a fellow bee. Don't worry -- I know it's not any of you because I just KNOW this girl also knows what her "friend" is up to and I doubt she'd be posting about how crazy Spuds is! Last time I saw Spuds in person, she actually asked me about one of MY wedding colors and I lied and told her I was using brown and black everywhere. And maybe some orange so it would feel more like a Halloween party!
Wow...so glad I don't have an evil FSIL.
I'm not even understanding what could be motivating her. It's like it's all about destroying your friend's wedding, even at the expense of having the wedding she wants. I wanted to initially be generous and say she's clueless, but the dress thing is out of control!
I agree with the above about giving her false info. And I agree that your friend should just buy a new dress.
I also think your friend should not be the one doing the talking to her FIL's...it's gotten to the point where this is a huge deal and her FI ought to address it. Even if FIL's aren't really supportive, at least it's out there for them to know. And hopefully they'll come around. BTW, I didn't see it mentioned above but maybe I missed it, has your friend's FI talked to his brother about this? That seems like the relationship in this mix that might be able to influence what's going on (well, based on how close I am to my siblings).
fizicsgirl, the issue is a little touchy with my friend's FH. I can't really get specific as to how close they are, because that might give a lot away and I have NO doubt Spuds and her little minions are on here somewhere... lurking. At first, her FH didn't think it was a big deal and no one was really listening to my friend -- they thought she was getting upset over nothing. My friend even attempted to talk to her FBIL in about it and he just went around telling the family she was being "unreasonable." I think her FH is hesitating on getting involved because of the relationship with his brother. And her FBIL is just acting really out of character about this whole thing. I didn't think he would respond the way he has.
But, to keep you guys updated. We've devised a plan! Bru hahaha. My friend isn't wearing a veil; she's wearing a flower in her hair. And so now we're "planting the seeds" that my friend has her perfect veil picked out and it will go perfectly with her dress!! Obviously, we're doing all we can to avoid Spuds showing up with a flower in her hair on "her" big day!
Just to keep the bees updated... my friend found out today that Spuds basically PLOTTED to get the same dress as her. I don't want to go into detail again, for fear that she's on here, but my friend is heartbroken. She really didn't want to get a new dress, but she's torn up over the fact that her FH will know what her dress looks like once he attends Spud's wedding. :( I hate this for her.
It definitely sounds like Spuds has some issues with insecurity. It is so sad to think that Spuds would be willing to try to steal someone else's thunder on their wedding day with the tricks she is pulling. And I definitely see why it would be hard to confront her on it; it is so hard to know what the right choice would be with which to deal with her.
I do agree with many of the others; if I were your friend, I'd be on the hunt for a new dress...one that is even more fabulous than the one that she already picked out. It sounds like your friend has quite a bit of time left before the wedding, I'm sure that she could accomplish it!
Good luck to her...this is a hard situation!
Send "Spuds" a card of the most reputable psychiatrist in town. This b*tch needs some drugs and therapy b-a-d! Who does this??
And send some ::HUGS:: to your fellow bride-to-be. Karma will catch up with Spuds sooner or later.
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