Post # 1
I just wanted a diamond that was average- average sparkle, clarity, cut, color. I never plan on selling it and I am a true believer in that there is beauty in flaws not perfection.
The diamond my SO put a deposit down on is GIA certified and these were the specs:
1.51ct – good cut, S2 calirty (eye clean), H color.
My SO took my mom to the jewelers to get her approval and to get the size measurement of her engagment ring because it just so happens to fit me perfectly.
They compared to 2 diamonds side by side. Her diamond is 1 ct, VVS1 and E color. My mom said you couldn’t tell the difference between the two at all except my diamond was slightly bigger and the edges on “my” diamond was sharper. She said the diamond he picked out had just as much sparkle, the color was the same as far as she could tell and she didn’t see any inclusions in it even when she held it up to her face with her reading glasses on.
Im just worried because he got such a good deal on it (I think 4,500-5,000), maybe it is too good to be true? on blue nile diamonds with those specifications go for a much higher price (8,000-12,000)
Is it a “good” diamond? Do deals like this exist? Is bluenile really a good price point for diamond shopping? The jeweler was recomended by a family friend who has used him for years.
Post # 3
@SparkleBee11: Wow! That really is a good deal! But I would take the stone out into natural lighing to see if you still love it outside of the jewelry store. Those lights are really tricky! And if you still love it, take it and run!
Edit to add: My only concern would be the “good cut” opposed to very good cut and ideal….good is a notch above fair….But I have seen good cut stones sparkle like crazy too! I would still take it and look at it in a different lighting though!
Post # 4
- Wedding: May 2011 - Downtown 202
I don’t know about Blue Nile, but it IS possible to get a good diamond that doesn’t cost $12,000!
Post # 5
I agree with JessMorgan777, that I would be concerned with the cut, as it determines whether the diamond will sparkle heaps, or not.
It is possible to get a better deal than Blue Nile tho. I have heard stories that some jewelers are able to find stones that are better in quality and cheaper in price. My BIL used Blue Nile as a target, and found a lovely 1ct round with better specs and cheaper price from a private jeweler. So, it is possible.
Post # 6
And it can depend on the type of cut, and where the inclusions are. I agree take it outside to make sure its what you love in the every day light so you dont get it outside and feel disapointed. But I agree if you love it and you take it outside and still makes you giggle with glee take it and run!!!! You can get a good deal still out there every once and awhile as long as you do your home work 🙂 I would also suggest getting an appraisal done at an independant appraiser to make sure it is as they say & no funny buisness was going on. Thats what we did to confirm it was exactly what we paid for (unfortunatly for us it wasnt… 🙁 ) and if it isnt as you hoped make sure you have the policy to return exchange ect.
Post # 7
besides the stats you mentioned, you also want to to know about things like flourescence, polish, any extra comments GIA put on the document (GIA is a good lab so pay attention to everything they say), and the proportions of the stone (in terms of fire/scintillation).
Also, a difference one person might not see under jeweler’s lighting might be much more clear to other people and under different lighting.
I would echo concerns about the cut, you also want to check the H color, that is a grey zone for a lot of people …remember, these things are subjectively graded and the certifier will tell you that if it’s one less (for example I) they refuse to take responsibility for that…but there really should have been an obvious difference between an E and an H beside each other, something’s going on there – even if your mom’s is really an F, there should be a difference…the issue may be wiith stone 1, stone 2, your mom’s lack of familiarity, or the lighting, but something’s going on.
And also the SI2. Is it really eye-clean? There’s a variety of stones that qualify for SI2, and I can see inclusions in VS1 sometimes, without magnification. You also want to make sure the inclusions don’t compromise the strength of the stone.
Finally, make sure you’re not getting a fake or a swap (You should be able to be shown exactly the inclusions the stone has and how they match your GIA certificate perfectly). It’s possible to buy a stone for less than Blue Nile but it’s also very easy for these places to scam people. They have a lot of incentive to do so because there’s a lot of money involved and many people are buying theirs for the first time or never really researched it carefully and don’t have the familiarty to notice. Diamond buying is a big hassle, I find, but worth it to really know you got what you paid for and are happy with the decisions you made along the way.
Post # 8
+1 on all the comments about cut. It is, hands down, the most important factor in diamond sparkle. You would not be able to tell much of a difference, if any, between E and H (especially in store lighting!!) and VVS1 and S2 (if it is eye clean). The numbers you posted sound suspiciously low, unless the cut really is poor and that is why the cost is less than 5k. I would recommend taking the stone and GIA certificate to an independent appraiser and making sure they match up. It’s also possible it’s a clarty treated stone, though I don’t think GIA would certify a treated stone. Do you have the GIA cert in front of you? If so, post the measurements (table, depth, crown…) and we can google it to see how it matches up with ideal stones. Bottom line though – if you’re happy with it, then enjoy it!
Post # 9
I’d worry about the cut, and I’d want to see it under a microscope, but the other factors sound alright.
Post # 10
That is a really good price, maybe it’s priced lower becuase the cut is “good” rather than excellent or ideal? You should really judge a diamond on it’s beauty and not it’s specs, so if it is beautiful to your eye, then go for it – no matter what the specs or price!
Also, don’t be afraid to ask the jeweler why the price seems so good. We got a great deal on my diamond because it was the end of the year and they were trying to get it off their books.
Post # 11
@MrsWBS: +1 Great points rasied!
Post # 12
I think it’s possible. It’s because it’s a good cut not a very good or excellent which makes a huge difference.