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    runskiclimb    June 26, 2010   Michigan

    Up until today, adoramapix had a deadline of 12/13 (tomorrow) for orders to be placed for guaranteed delivery by Christmas.  This morning, they posted an announcement that the "delivery-by-Christmas deadline had passed".  Perhaps they make a good quality photo album, but that is terrible customer service in my opinion.  They should not promise their customers one thing and then fail to deliver.  I had made my plans around that and now I won't have a Christmas gift for my parents.

    Conclusion: adoramapix has great reviews for a quality photo album, but beware of poor customer service.

     
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    yrret107    November 28, 2009   Seattle, WA; Married in West Chester, PA

    That sucks.  I'm sorry. Did you try calling them and telling them you are not happy about the news. Maybe try to get them to pay for rush shipping? 

     
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    That doesn't sound like poor customer service, quite the opposite, actually. It sounds like they got as many orders they could take to guarentee delivery by Christmas. It's not their fault or a reflection on them if you choose to procrastinate.

     
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    noritake22    March 31, 2011   Seattle

    I really don't see what you are saying as bad customer service. I actually see it as good customer service. They posted an update. I am sure that the update was posted because the orders already received had met or exceeded what they had previously projected, so if you purchased from them prior to the announcement, I am sure you will get your order in time. If you are worried about it, you can always call them to doublecheck.

     
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    runskiclimb    June 26, 2010   Michigan

    Sorry, maybe I wasn't clear.  They said the deadline was tomorrow and then changed it today to say it was yesterday.  So they originally promised that if you ordered today, you would be fine, but then pretended they never said that.  They also said they are open today, but I got an automated recording telling me they were not opened when I called. 

    I still placed an order, to be given as a post-Christmas present.  Oh well.  I just wanted to vent/provide info for other bees!

     
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    @runskiclimb: No, you were clear :) It still sounds like they filled up with orders and had to close the deadline early.

     
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    SapphireSun    July 9, 2010   Vancouver, BC

    From what I saw on their website they close early on Fridays and are closed statutory and Jewish holidays and all weekends. 

    I guess try giving them a call tomorrow?

     
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    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    Actually, I have always, always had amazing customer service from them. I bet if you emailed them or called, you could get them to give you free shipping.

    I order from them all the time (I do a lot of photography, and deal with them both with prints and with gear)

    Also, if you live in the eastern half of the US, it only takes 1-2 days shipping with USPS to reach you - so you'd still have time.

     
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    hotwings    August 21, 2010   Boston, MA

    It does seem that AdoramaPix needs to update their policies b/c they report that it will only take 5 days to create a photobook.  I'm at 14 days and the books are still not complete.  So we may be leaving for the holidays without the books in hand.  I put in a complaint today.  We'll see what happens.  It seems that they have gotten more popular than they anticipated. 

     
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    SapphireSun    July 9, 2010   Vancouver, BC

    @hotwings: I ordered last Thursday hoping to have the book by this coming weekend, so that's not good news...

    Maybe if they haven't shipped it yet, you could have the shipping address changed to wherever you're going? 

     
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    hotwings    August 21, 2010   Boston, MA

    @SapphireSun: That's exactly what I requested.  I want to know when they plan on shipping so I can request they send it to my inlaws place if needed. 

     
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    KLP2010    October 30, 2010  

    Sorry, I totally understand, but I'm with @Belle2Be:. As much as it is frustrating, it's LESS frustrating than if they promised Christmas delivery and then failed at that. Kudos to them for knowing their limits!

    It could be worse, you could be like us... we ordered a TV from a local retailer on Black Friday, was to be delivered Monday... then the following Wednesday, then saturday, then wed, and here we are 4 weeks later with no TV still... Granted, Samsung is backordered because they sold too many, but we are pretty sick of it being "pushed back" again and again. We're gifting our still really nice... but not as nice as the new one :), TV to my SIL for Christmas so we REALLY are getting anxious... because our "promise" it not being kept. If they had told us, we can sell it to you but you wont have it until Christmas we would have been fine, because we wouldn't have been thinking it should have been here 4 weeks ago.

     
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    I think I'm gonna have to disagree with the majority here and say I think this does seem like bad customer service.

    Why even post a "Christmas Deadline" if you're just going to change it? People count on such things. It would have been better not to have a deadline and then just announce "No More Christmas Orders" when they met their production capacity. At least that way no one would have been planning on a date that was changed on them. 

    And to call her a procrastinator is just not cool. The OP was still within the time limit prescribed by Adoramapix. 

    OP, if I were you, I would call and politely ask for your order to be expedited at their cost in order to arrive in time for Christmas. They owe that to you, IMO. Good luck!

    *Edit: I have NO idea why some words are bigger than others here. They don't look like that when I'm typing!*

     
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    Adorama is not in the business of shipping and has no control of their subcontractors (ups, usps,etc).  Also, if the issue was with production, perhaps they hit their capacity with orders.  I think it's great they kept customers in the loop.  I've had amazon free super saver shipping lie to me, and things actually arrived AFTER christmas, 15 days later.  At least they are giving you a heads up now.

    I understand your dissapointment, but the lesson here is to not procrastinate until the last possible day.

     
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    camrie    September 5, 2010   Louisville

    I agree that while it's disappointing at least they aren't promising to deliver by Christmas if they've maxed out their orders. Perhaps there was a miscommunication when they posted the date online. Personally I'd be upset but would want to know before I ordered and have the option to use another vendor, than order and hear that I might not get it in time.

     
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    meliss    May 31, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    They're probably maxed out in orders, and really they only had to adjust the deadline 1 day before Dec 13. Kind of a bummer, but I agree with other posters that it's better than taking the order and then not delivering in time.

    Personally I've had a great experience with Adoramapix customer service. I ordered a second album to send to my parents because I loved ours so much, and the print quality of the second album cover wasn't as good as the first one. When I called them to complain they were very apolegetic and offered to replace it right away. They even sent me a return label for free shipping.

    @hotwings: Their website actually says "Photo book orders may take up to 7 lab production days to process. Remember to also allow for shipping time, which depends on the shipping method and distance from our NYC headquarters."

     
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    hotwings    August 21, 2010   Boston, MA

    Everyone understand a holiday rush period though.  Everyone has their own experience, no company is perfect.  Good customer service can still prevail in all these situations as long as they respond appropriately.

    @meliss: That's not what they say on their support page.  http://forums.adoramapix.com/entries/202180-turnaround-time-on-orders

    Actual Delivery time = 1 to 5 days (shipping time) + 5 business days (processing)

     
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    meliss    May 31, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    @hotwings: Yeah, they probably need to update that. I looked here: http://www.adoramapix.com/Support.aspx?SupportID=Editi

     
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    hotwings    August 21, 2010   Boston, MA

    @meliss: Definitely agree!  Either way though.. I'm at 14 days and my status is still at pending.

    @runskiclimb: Sorry for thread jacking :(

     
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    @hotwings:Did you check your Spam folder of your email? I've sent something to another company once that they had an issue with and their email went to my spam...

     
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    SapphireSun    July 9, 2010   Vancouver, BC

    @Belle2Be: their website has a place where you can check your order status by putting in your confirmation number.  I've been at "books in binding" since Tuesday, so that's probably where hotwings is looking too.

     
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    hotwings    August 21, 2010   Boston, MA

    @Belle2Be: Nope, nothing in spam.  I checked my status on their webpage.  I also send in my complaint via their website.  I also twittered them.  haha... is that overboard?

     
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    cheapchicbride    August 27, 2011   Cedar Rapids, IA

    I have to agree with several other people on this thread and say that I don't think it sounds like bad customer service at all. It sounds like they didn't anticipate getting as many orders as they did and they had to make adjustments. I placed my order for Christmas presents with them on November 30th, knowing that square books take longer and knowing that they are probably busier with the holidays coming up. My book shipped on Friday and I should have it Tuesday. I have always had very good experiences with Adorama, but every company is not perfect. I would try calling them tomorrow and see if they can help you out. 

     
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    HisIrishPrincess    March 23, 2012  

    I agree, I'd much rather know now that they have reached capacity Christmas orders, then the day before and not receive one at all.  I wish more places did that!

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    I don't think it's bad customer service to close christmas delivery down a day early- people who wait until the final day are tempting fate anyway. However, if they say 5 days processing time that's how long it should take. If it's going to take longer they should notify their clients.

     
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    Jacqi    February 28, 2009  

    It is definitely is terrible customer service- I ran into the same problem as the OP.

    The issue is, they sent me multiple emails letting me know the deadline to order books in time for Christmas (Dec 13). This was also posted on their website. They never sent an email saying the deadline had been moved. I went to their website on the morning of Dec 12, and there was a banner that said the deadline had passed. I ordered my books anyways because what else could I do?

    I emailed them, letting them know I was upset and asking if it was an error. They responded: "Yes, our company has updated that date today [Dec 12] due to the high volume of photobooks in our system. If you would like you can call us periodically and we can check on the order together and hope it ships in time for the holidays."

    Although I do give them points for quickly responding to me, they did not offer to upgrade my shipping or rush my order. They are taking no responsibility for their error (in my opinion).

     
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    I don't know, I view this as a reality of doing business.  Say store X had a sale and advertised it but then sold out of it....I don't see how this much different.  The early bird gets the worm....next time don't wait until the last minute!

    Although this advice is painful, I do understand your frustration.  I also am realistic and understand why this probably happened

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    This actually sounds like great customer service to me.  It sounds like they got more orders than they could actually fill by Christmas so they had to stop telling people that they could still fill by Christmas.  If they hadn't posted the update, you'd have ordered and expected it to arrive in time and been pissed when it didn't.  The company knows their limits and I have to respect them for that.

    And to the PPs that think AdoramaPix should pay for your expedited shipping - Why?  If they are already maxed out on orders why should they pay for your expedited shipping because you waited until the last minute over people who ordered early?

     
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    @Mrs.KMM: Yeah, this was my thought as well. I've got a great quote for this situation...

    "Lack of proper prior planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine"

    Laughing

     
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    camrie    September 5, 2010   Louisville

    @Belle2Be: I use this quote all the time! :) Although these ladies made their plans based on the deadline the co. sent them, so it's not really their fault...obviously the company reached capacity before the date and had to stop guaranteeing orders, mostly it's just disappointing.

    @hotwings: I'd call them if I were you rather than emailing etc. UPS misrouted my book from them and said it might be returned to shipper so I called and explained that I needed it sent back to me if that happened. They were very nice on the phone so you might get better results with a phone call.

     
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    Jacqi    February 28, 2009  

    @Belle2Be: I did plan based on the information provided to me by the company. What should I use to make my plan, if not the facts?

    My main issue is that, in my opinion, they had a marketing plan based around having the last date to order as Dec 13. These books take a lot of time and effort to make, it isn't a pre-made product that you can just decide you want one day and buy it. Most of my spreads were not from a template. I've been working on perfecting my books for a looong time (I made 5) and I wanted to order the books together, which is why I waited. It is a major bummer that my Christmas gifts may not arrive in time.

    @Mrs.KMM: I don't think it is Adorama's duty to pay for expedited shipping. But it would be a nice gesture in order to follow through on a promise they made.

    I'm still hoping to get my books before Christmas, so we shall see.

     
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    berkbride    September 2010   Berkeley, CA

    I ordered 2 books on Thanksgiving day, so I was under the impression that I would have them by now, as I'm flying out this week for the holidays. I called today, and they insisted that they state a processing time of 7-12 business days on their website, though I only came across 5 business days like hotwings. I'm annoyed about this discrepancy, as I feel like that would have only helped them to make sure that information was posted accurately. I wanted to have them change the shipping address, but they said they just shipped this morning. To their credit, they said they would call back and let me know if it's still there, in which case they would upgrade my shipping to 2-day.

    In any case, for anyone planning on ordering books from them, plan on a long processing time. The customer service rep was very nice, and it sounded like they are getting slammed with orders that they weren't prepared for this holiday season.

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    Another thought - Are you sure you read the deadline correctly?  Because the recent emails I've recieved from AdoramaPix all indicate that you have until 11:59pm tonight to order photo prints, framing, etc and receive them by Christmas guarenteed but it also specifically says that photobooks aren't included in this deadline and that they have a separate deadline.  Maybe you read incorrectly and just assumed that everything they sell had the same deadline when in actuality they did not.

     
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    So, I just want to weigh in and say that they probably should've known that they were going to be overwhelmed because I had the exact same problem last year where it took me almost a month to get my book, and customer service was not very responsive except to say "oh sorry we're at capacity".  Clearly they have not done a good job of predicting how much they can handle, especially since they have a basis for predicting how many orders they were going to get based on last year's sales.  THAT'S the part that is frustrating for me.

    And yeah, I agree that it is bad customer service of them to just post on facebook "hey, we thought that we'd be able to give you a deadline of 12/13 midnight, but we're already at capacity so surprise, we're not taking anymore orders and anyone who planned to submit between now and midnight is screwed".  At the very least they KNEW that they were reaching capacity and should have warned people a few days in advance that they might have to move up the deadline.

    All of this said, the quality of the albums is wonderful (I bought two as parents albums last year), and if your'e planning to buy anytime OUTSIDE of the holiday season, I recommend them.

     
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    @FutureKMM:  They specifically said they had a deadline of midnight 12/13 and then posted on Facebook that they reached capacity and any orders sent in after that facebook posting were not going to make it.  THAT is what people are upset about - rightly so, I think.

    **Although I see now that the OP did not see the facebook posting**

     

     
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    berkbride    September 2010   Berkeley, CA

    I think the bait-and-switch of rescinding the holiday deadline is annoying, but I try to give companies the benefit of the doubt, that it was an honest mistake of miscalculation.

    Yesterday when I called, I complained about how the processing time was different online (using the same link hotwings posted earlier). Last night the page changed to now say 7-10 days processing. In principle, this is great. In this instance however, I found the change to be a little deceptive. The reason being, they present their FAQs in the format of a forum, such that posts and comments are dated. They changed the original post and did not update the date, suggesting that this policy has been in place for months. Clearly, a lot of people ordering for the holidays would be / have been using this timeline, and now the online evidence of a processing time of 5 days has been erased for disgruntled customers. I find that to be more willfully dishonest that closing the holiday deadline early.

     
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    MeghanV    May 2010   New York

    It isn't just processing time - they're backlogged, and I think if they were THIS backlogged, they could have put the word out earlier.  I told them I could pick up the book at the NYC store and they still said that wouldn't work - and that was yesterday.  So even without shipping time it's over 10 days.

    Yes, they were right to stop taking orders.  But they could have seen this coming earlier... I was working on my mom's album for WEEKS, knowing I had until the 13th to lay it out, edit the photos, take a breather, and come back to it with fresh eyes to make sure it was perfect.  Now I have nothing.  It stinks.  And I find some of these comments really dismissive - just because I waited until a published deadline doesn't mean I was procrastinating.  Photo books take time to lay out.

     
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    meliss    May 31, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    @berkbride: I don't mean to be defending them constantly, I don't work for Adoramapix or anything, but in their defense it is entirely possible they didn't realize the bad info on the links hotwings posted. I for one had gotten my info from the main "Photo Books - FAQ" section I posted and never even thought to look into the forums.  Even when I ordered my book couple months ago I always assumed it would be about 2 weeks based on that info. I just don't think they were trying to deceive anyone, they probably updated an outdated link when brought to their attention.

    EDITED: LOL, I just got an email from Adoramapix that I qualified for a free 14 page 8x8 book for being a devoted customer. Maybe they're reading these threads :D

     
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    berkbride    September 2010   Berkeley, CA

    I'm happy to chalk up all of their mishaps to being swamped and carelessness. But the total sum of annoyances is getting out of hand for one order.

    - I called in after 8-9 business days to check on shipping, was assured it would get sent out the next day, but wasn't sent out until 3-4 business days later

    - I used a coupon code, but was charged the full retail price

    - I was sent the wrong books all together, and now have to find time to drop off their mistake at a UPS store to ship it back to them

    I had also called in a couple times to try to change the shipping address once I saw online that it still hadn't shipped; once, I got a phone message recording telling me their hours, which told me that I was calling well within their business hours but no one was picking up (I did account for east coast vs west coast time). The second time, I was told it already shipped and would receive a callback either way to see if they could UPS it to me, but I didn't receive a callback.

    Good things:

    - nice customer service reps

    - shipping took 2 days - it looks like they used usps priority

    In any case, these mistakes are sloppy, and not something I expected when I looked into using AdoramaPix. 

    Also, I wouldn't think to look at their forums for processing times. However, on their main page, I searched for "FAQ" which was conveniently located under the header of "Services and Support." The "FAQ" links to their forums. I don't see how this would be an atypical route to find out information about their turnaround time.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Bux    September 25, 2010   Los Angeles

    I'm late to this thread, but I also had problems with Adorama. I placed my order on December 4 -- NINE DAYS before the deadline. I thought this would be plenty of time. On their website, they say 5 business days, in the email confirmation I got when I placed the order, it said three days, but I do have a vague memory of 7-10 business days being the turnaround time listed when I was actually placing the order. But even at 10 days, the book should have shipped the Friday before Christmas. It didn't ship until Monday (after I sent them a complain-y email) and I didn't get it until Thursday, which meant we had to delay our travel plans because I didn't want to show up at Christmas without the main gift and I didn't want USPS to leave it on our doorstep where it would sit unattended and exposed to the elements for a week. I never got an email saying it would be delayed like the poster over here. If I had, I would have changed the shipping address (or demanded expedited shipping) and it wouldn't have been a big deal.

    THEN there was a giant misprint in the book (their fault, not mine). I contacted them through the website 8 days ago, and also emailed them yesterday and have not heard back. I know there was a blizzard in NY and also it's the holidays, but the lack of response or remuneration for this huge mistake is really frustrating. I want to order several more books to take with us when we visit the in-laws in mid-January, but I'm holding off until this issue is resolved and it's killing me to watch the days tick by, given their previous turnaround time problems.

     

     

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