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    stephinPA    October 29, 2010   Reading, PA

    Do any of you feed either of these foods to your doggies?  And if so, please tell me your overall satisfaction with it.

    I'm thinking of changing my dogs' food and this was suggested.

     

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    Pelikila    August 30, 2008   Houston, TX

    We originally fed Eagle Pack's Holistic Select to our dogs but it became hard to get so we switched to Prairie.  I just didn't like how congested my dogs were on Prairie so we switched to Orijen (keep in mind, all these switches were over several years time giving each food for at least one year, usually more like 18 months to two years).  Since Orijen had no grain it was supposed to cut back on how much grass they ate but ended up making them eat more because their stomachs were upset easier.  I had more problems with my particular dogs on Orijen than I was comfortable with.  After 9 months on Orijen we found another carrier in our area of Eagle Pack's Holistic Select and have switched back and are very happy.  My dogs just seem to do best on that particular brand but I know many people swear by Orijen.  It may be a try and see kind of thing for your dog too.

     
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    stephinPA    October 29, 2010   Reading, PA

    @Pelikila:  There are just sooooooo many choices that's it's overwhelming.  I need grain-free as well but I'm also worried about the high protein and them gaining weight.

    AHH!  I don't know as each experience is different for each dog.

     
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    Pelikila    August 30, 2008   Houston, TX

    @stephinPA:  The whole gaining weight thing did become an issue on Orijen for my girls as well.  It is tough to find the right balance with so many choices.  I personally feel as long as I'm feeding a high quality holistic food I just have to hunt and peck until I find the right food for my girls.  Orijen definitely fits the bill . . . it just wasn't right for my dogs.  Best of luck!!

     
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    caitlanc    September 12, 2009   Western Slope of Colorado

    I haven't tried Orijen or Acana so I can't comment on those but your post reminded me of my hunt.  Not fun.  

    Our pit bull is super sensitive but my old dog could eat anything so I was trying to find a food that would work for both of them.  Easy enough, right?  I remember being excited for Canidae because it fit our budget and the needs of both dogs on paper.  The picky pit bull did well and got fat and sleek but the "did well on anything" dog dropped weight and had a terrible coat!  I finally gave up and fed them two different brands.  

    I agree it's so hard to find a food everyone's happy with.  I didn't enjoy the search at all.  I found this site too late for myself but it definitely would have helped me narrow down the choices.  They don't have Acana on there but Orijen has been reviewed.  

     
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    jindc    March 20, 2011   DC

    I fed my dog California Natural for a long time, but then she had blood work indicating early renal malfunction - so we switched her to a raw diet.  She would NOT for the life of her just eat raw meat, so after a bunch of tries (including tricks!) we fed her Primal.  She has NEVER been healthier - looking, acting, pooping! - than when she was eating Primal two meals a day.  However, she's 100lbs and 5 primal patties a day was too expensive.

    We've been feeding her Orijen in the morning and Primal at night (most nights, when I remember) and it cut our feeding budget and she seems to be doing fine - we got her blood checked, and it was normal.  However, as much as Orijen is supposed to be THE best food on the market, it is a very very rich food.  It's harder on Lucy's tummy, definitely, because her #2s after digesting Orijen are much different than after eating her Primal. 

    You might not be able to feed both dogs the same thing - this is a very real possibility.  I DO suggest Cali Natural to people who I know have doggie tummy issues. However, I have not purchased/recommended it since Proctor and Gable bought them.  Maybe others can chime in.

    That said, I think Primal is the best dog food I have ever bought any pet I've owned.  Lucy gets ready to eat every time I go to the freezer because she thinks I'm getting our Primal - that's how much she loves it.  The moistness is wonderful for  a dog that might need help getting more water (a big dog like Lu) and she looked the healthiest. Too bad my income was not!

     
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    stephinPA    October 29, 2010   Reading, PA

    @caitlanc: Thanks for the site!  I appreciate it.

    @jindc: Thanks, I'll check out Primal as well.

     
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    noopnoop    June 26, 2010   The snowbelt

    Finding a dog food that works is seriously like finding a BC pill that works for humans. I thought for a long time that my dog had a sensitive stomach, and after trying SO many different types of foods and still having issues I finally realized it was actually a poultry allergy, because she has been fine ever since switching her to a Lamb based food. There are so so many good foods out there, though.

    We have had her on California Naturals for quite a while and a few months ago I decided to switch her because of Cal Nat. being bought out by P&G. I looked into Orijen and decided for even a moderately active Standard Poodle, it was just too high in protein for my comfort. Most dogs, unless they are hunting dogs or running around a farm, don't need that much protein.

    I havent looked into Acana, but we ended up switching to Taste of the Wild High Prairie which came highly recommended, and she's doing SUPER well on it. So much so, that my mom is now switching both of her dogs from Cal Nat to TOTW. It's grain free, super good quality and is actually cheaper than Cal Naturals.

    I'm also a big fan of Fromm but not sure if they have a grain free food? They should.

     

     
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    lulucarmen    August 7, 2010   Saskatchewan

    I tried feeding this to our Yorkie, but she wasn't having any of it! She would pretty much starve herself instead of eating it. I've recently started feeding her California Natural, which is by the same company (Natura Pet) and she's really liking that right now. She eats the Herring and Sweet Potato formula!

     
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    Danielle81    July 17, 2011   Toronto, Ontario

    We were feeding our cats Orijen but we found out that it was VERY high in protein so we switched to Acana which is the same ingredients just a little lower in protein and our cats love it.  Also it's a little cheaper than Orijen which makes us happy! :)

     
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    linkkm    May 28, 2011  

    My dog loves Orijen and we love it because it's low in grain but high in protein/fruits/vegetables.  I found out at the store that Acana is produced by the same company as Orijen but has less protein and more fruits/veggies. 

     
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    Ms Mini    July 17, 2010   Medicine Hat, AB

    I have been using Orijen for my dog for the last 3 1/2 years. I have used the Original, the Regional Red, and the 6-fish formula. My dog does the best on the 6-fish formula, his coat is absolutely amazing! 

    It is higher calorie, so my 140 pound Newfoundland dog eats a mere 3 cups a day and does awesome on it. With the reduced volume of feeding, we actually saved money when we switched him, as a 30 pound bag lasts over a month! His weight is perfect, he has small, non-stinky, easy to pick up poops. His tummy does really well on it, and we have greatly reduced his number of skin and ear infections since we switched when he was 6 months old (we suspect he has a grain allergy).

     
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    europomme    September 17, 2011  

    I wouldn't feel comfortable feeding a food with that much protein, I've heard some scary stories.  It might take a bunch of switches before finding the right food, I'm still on the hunt, and I'm really considering raw even though I was totally against it before, but I hear so many good things about it.  I'm just concerned about salmonella and that sort of thing, especially if my dog licks me after eating it, etc, I'm sort of a germophobe!

    So far I have been feeding Taste of the Wild Pacific Stream formula... it's a great food, but the way they preserve the fish concerns me also.  There are a lot of companies that have grain free foods now, but most of them are too high in protein.

    Innova is supposed to be a great food.

     
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    jindc    March 20, 2011   DC

    "too much protein" is a myth - in the wild, dogs eat animals and the contents of their stomachs.  It's not the AMOUNT of protein but the quality.  At first I thought too much was bad, too, especially when learning about my dogs elevated creatinine.  However, after reading about how restricting a dog's protein intake does not help that, and that it's the quality, I tried that.  Especially given the total crap food vets try to sell you. 

    If some foods were too high protein, raw food wouldn't be as good for them!  But if you feed just raw meats, be sure you 1) give them bones and organs and 2) buy good meat - no saline injected or anything, which can be hard to find depending on where you live or the stores you shop at.  Lucy wouldn't eat raw meat - we gave her a chicken quarter - and even seared the skin - and she was like "WHAT THE HELL MOM!!!"  I also thought it was important to be able to have her switch to kibble in case she had someone else watching her, which was one reason we started splitting her meals.  

    I will sing Primal's praises from the tallest roof (but only if they gave it to her for free!).  That said, I have contacted them about the cost and once in a while I get a care package from them with their treats - which she cannot get enough of - and some coupons.  They also have punch cards and some feed shops have their own frequent buyer program. 

    Innova was also bought by Proctor and Gamble, FYI. 

     
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    abbyful    June 7, 2011   Kansas City

    I fed a raw prey-model diet.

    I have posts on my blog about both raw-feeding and kibble. I don't know if I'm allowed to post the links here because that may be considered "blog promotion", but if you check the Share Your Blog thread you can find the link to my blog. The posts are "My Pet Wolves" in November and "What My Wolves Used To Eat" in December. Those posts go into more detail than I have room to go into here.

     

     

    Acana and Orijen are both good foods. They fit the standards I looked for when I fed kibble.

    1. High meat content. Preferably at least 2-3 out of the top 5 ingredients be meat or meat meal (first ingredient must be!). Don't confuse "meal" with "byproducts". Meal is simply the meat with the water weight removed. So for example, on the ingredient list, "chicken meal" is actually more quantity of chicken than "chicken".
    2. Higher quality grains, such as barley, brown rice, and oatmeal. No wheat or corn.Or an alternative starch/carbohydrate such as potatoes, sweet potatoes, or tapioca.
    3. No byproducts.
    4. Minimal fillers (brewers rice, beet pulp, etc).
    5. No carcinogenic preservatives (BHA, BHT, ethoxyquin).
    6. No artificial colorings such as the Red, Blue, and Yellow dyes.
    7. No added sugars (sugar, corn syrup). 
    8. No mystery meats (meats identified only as "meat" or "poultry".)

    Good websites for information on kibble feeding:

     

     

    If you want to learn more about raw-feeding,

     
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    suttonista    November 13, 2010   New York City

    We had our dogs on Orijen for a few months but the protein was so high that it actually made their stomachs very upset.  They are older dogs and if I remember, Orijen doesn't make a senior formula so ultimately we switched to Wellness and have been much happier.  So have our pups!

     
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    jindc    March 20, 2011   DC

    Orijen does have a senior formula....but if you found something that works, that's great!  It's hard to do that, especially with older pups!

     
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    noopnoop    June 26, 2010   The snowbelt

    Too high of protein is definitely not a myth. Most house dogs are no where near as active as wild dogs were/are. My dog does a whole lot of sleeping in between her 3 walks a day and is in a crate while we are gone, and is just not a high-energy dog in general. If I lived on a farm and had a Aussie who was out with me all the time doing farm chores, I would not hesitate to feed the dog Orijen, but I don't know many house dogs who are active enough to benefit from the amount of protein that Orijen offers.

    Natura Pet owns Innova, Evo, California Naturals, Healthwise aaand some others I can't remember - all now bought by Procter and Gamble. While they SAY they aren't going to change the ingredients, I don't trust it enough and wouldn't feed any of those foods now even though they're all high quality foods.

    Wellness is another GREAT food that I would not hesitate to feed. I am really happy with the TOTW, but if I were to switch again it would for sure be to Wellness or Fromm.

    To the OP, if you haven't seen it already, www.dogfoodanalysis.com is a really good resource for dog foods!

     
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    NDBride2011    June 11, 2011   Grand Forks, ND

    My dog has eaten a high protein grain free diet her whole life and has had  no problems with it (except that we learned she is allergic to red meats- so we feed only fish and chicken/turkey). She started with Nature's Variety Instinct kibble and raw food, but her poo smelt really bad with that. So, we switched to Innova Evo. I like to change her protein sources every 6 months or so. We would go from chicken to red meat. When we discovered her allergy to red meat we had to find a fish based food for her. So we now are feeding her Orijen's fish based product. She immediately loved it. We feed her a 1/4 cup twice a day. She's actually lost over a pound (which is a big deal because she's only 9.5 lbs to begin with). We are starting to feed her a little bit more, but the less she weighs the better as her breed had a lot of back problems if they weigh too much. I think that Orijen is a great food (and so does my dog)! I am probably going to stick with Orijen when it is time to go back to chicken/turkey proteins again. I have been considering adding a little bit of raw food back into her diet too!

     
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    jindc    March 20, 2011   DC

    protein variety is good - or adding a whole raw egg with shell - things like that are good if your dog's tummy can handle it! 

    Having given my dog a variety of diets, I personally believe grain free and quality is what matters and I've seen the results in her blood work.  My dog sleeps probably 20 hours out of the day and the rest of the time wishes she were sleeping - she's 100lbs. 

     
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    stephinPA    October 29, 2010   Reading, PA

    @noopnoop: In all of the researched I've done over the past two days, I've come to the conclusion that Wellness Core (low-fat formula) is the winner. I'm glad to hear you like Wellness. 

     
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    abbyful    June 7, 2011   Kansas City

    Any particular reason you're going with the low-fat formula over the regular or ocean formulas?

    If your dog needs to lose weight, I'd recommend just feeding a little less, cutting back on treats, and increasing exercise; not cutting fat. Fat is good for dogs. (Protein and fat are the only macronutrients a dog needs. And dietary fat doesn't equal body fat.)

     
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    europomme    September 17, 2011  

    @abbyful:

    I have heard that too, it's better to just cut back on the food.  Low fat dog foods aren't usually good for them unless they have specific needs for a low fat food.

     

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