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Addressing an invitation to two men... in French?

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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    I've been spending the day addressing envelopes, and I've hit a snag! We're inviting a couple (Mr. S's cousin and his partner), who live in France, and it just occurred to me that it might be weird to address their invites as Mr. Spaniel Cousin & Mr. French Partner... what is the correct abbreviation in French? And is there any special etiquette for addressing an envelope to two men that I'm not thinking of?

    This is such a silly thing for me to overthink, but I'm already overthinking it. :) Help, please!

     
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    honeybun    June 5, 2010   VA

    I took 4 years of French, but wouldn't know where to start on this one!

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Okay, I can't find the answers in the same place, but if anyone else finds themselves in this particular predicament, apparently the correct way to address the invitation (if they were an American couple) would be:

    Mr. Spaniel Cousin
    Mr. French Partner
    Address Information...

    Their names should be on different lines if they are adults who live together or a couple.

    And the French title would be Monsieur, which should not be abbreviated unless it's for a title. Good to know. :)

     
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    OttawaBride2011    May 21, 2011   Ottawa, Ontario

    I believe the correct abbreviation is just "M." for monsieur. As far as addressing two men... I'm not sure of any proper etiquette for that, I think just M. White and M. Smith is fine :)

     
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    JeniRae    May 2, 2009   Pittsburgh

    I found this...

     

    M. = Monsieur : Sir / plural: MM. = Messieurs
    Mme = Madame : Madam / plural: Mmes = Mesdames
    Mlle = Mademoiselle : Miss / plural: Mlles = Mesdemoiselles

     
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    I'm with OttawaBride2011 - M. White and M. Smith seems right. Or you could write 'et' instead of 'and' if you want to do it all in French. ;) MM. would work only if they had the same last name, in which case I think it would be MM. Jacques et Pierre Beausejour (most frenchy names I could think of, heh).

    Flamingo's French, maybe she would know?

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Oh good, I'm glad I can abbreviate after all... writing out "Monseiur" twice felt weird. Thanks for the "and"!, @seabreeze! :)

     
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    noritake22    March 31, 2011   Seattle

    If it is a formal invitation, you should not abbreviate.

     
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    crebre80    November 20, 2010   Baton Rouge, LA

    I like MM. Tomas et Paul

     
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    karmina    Sept 2009   San Francisco

    this might have just been a typo but it's spelled "monsieur" Wink

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    It was a typo. :) Thank goodness I write better than I type!

    Thanks all! You are so helpful. :) I'm going with Monsieur Spaniel Cousin et Monsieur French Partner and hoping I'm not breaking all the rules by putting them on one line in alphabetical order. ;)

     
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    rabbit    September 3, 2010   Milwaukee, WI

    Are these men married or a couple living together? I will go against the etiqueete grain and say that if they are married they ought to be on the same line, just like any other married couple. If they a couple living together, then I would go with the "proper" two line address. It really bothers me that invitation etiquette (that I've found so far) says that even a married gay or lesbian couple ought to be addressed on two seperate lines! I am for equality across the board- all married couples, regardless of gender, ought to be addressed the same way.

     

    Okay, sorry for the rant. This is a topic close to my heart!

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    They are not married. I'm not sure about the status of same-sex marriage in France, but if it's legal they've chosen not to (and if it's not, I don't know whether they would have or not), and they both have different surnames.

    Also, thanks for pointing that out about married versus non-married and one line versus two lines... I actually had no idea that is what it signified. :) I've put all couples (same sex or hetero) on one line unless the names were particularly long and didn't fit!!!

     
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    AprilBride10    April 17, 2010   New York, NY

    We had this happen - its not just for gay couples, but technically any unmarried couple living together should be on two separate lines in alphabetical order (not by who you know or are related to).

    However, if they would consider themselves married (and not all couples who are living together do) I agree that they would properly be addressed on the same line joined by "and" i.e Mr. A and Mr. B.  Technically "and" in an address line is reserved for married couples.  Weird things you learn when you address envelopes!

     
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    stripes    September 2010  

    wow! I've learned so much about address etiquette from this little query!  thanks all! 

     

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