- 7 years ago
- Wedding: May 2016
For those who don’t watch AMC on ABC, two characters, Greenlee and Ryan were married by a man who claimed to be a minister but turned out to be a con-man/murderer. They have decided to try to get re-married, feeling their marriage is not valid because the oficiant was not really a minster, but have had plenty of typical soap opera drama thrown in to keep them from just heading to a JP and making things legal.
BF and I got into a disagreement about whether it’s true they are not really married. To me, it’s pretty straight forward – if the minster/judge/ship captain/officiant is bogus, then ceremony performed and certificate signed is not valid. You can’t just walk in and perform a marriage ceremony and sign the offical paperwork if you are not really someone legally allowed to do so in your state (the show takes place in Pensylannia).
BF feels that they ARE legally married and that a fake officiant does’t matter as much as the fact that they believed he was a minister at the time, and that they said their vows to each other. I tried telling him that any person siging a form who is not authorized to do so invalidates that form, be it a tax return, a driver’s permit, whatever. Legally, it doesn’t count.
I agree that as a couple saying the vows to each other is the really important part, but if your marraige isn’t going to be recognized as “real” by your state, then you really need to take care of that, be it a new ceremony, or seeing if they can just get a new person to sign the certificate or whatever. I mean, not just anyone can perform a marraige ceremony, right?
I think BF was getting upset because he felt that I was knocking the importance of the actual vows – not in the least, but really, everything needs to be in order for it to be recognized, which is part of the point, to me at least, that the all entities of church/state/country recognize you are a married couple, granting you such legal entitlements such as hospital visitation, next-of-kin decision rights, etc. Screw taxes, I can’t tell that we’d be better fling together or not, so I don’t care about that.