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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    Ok, here is my story....

    My MOH called me a Bridezilla this weekend and this is why:

    Saturday I had plans with my MOH to go to my first dress fitting. I had made the plans with her over a month in advance. The day before the fitting she texts me that she will not be able to come. Her son is in a basketball tournament. I am very upset because she has been backing out of EVERYTHING lately. She showed up for 10 minutes when I was deciding on a dress, she was the only bridesmaid not to come over and help me make invitations and she cancelled on my first dress try on. She always has an excuse: work, kids, etc....So I guess I half expected her to cancel, but was still hoping she would be there for me. I haven't seen her since Christmas and was really looking forward to talking to her.

    So, she cancels and I find another friend (not a bridesmaid) to go with me. The morning of the fitting my MOH texts me and says she might be able to sneak out of a game and come. I text back and say forget it I found someone else. She text back Oh! Okay!

    Then I few minutes later she texts me that She hopes I am not upset. She is very busy and has not been able to attend very many things with me. I text back that Yes, I am a little upset and we are all busy and she hasn't attended anything.

    She just unloads on me...Basically a How dare you I am a single mom and until you are you have no right to say anything blah, blah , blah. At this point I would like to say that I am tired of parents thinking that single people do not have busy lives. I get it, you have kids. You have a lot to do, but why do thy always think we have some carefree lifestyle?? I get it,  she's divorced and has kids and a busy job. But she wanted to be my MOH. Where's my support?

    Anyway, I tell her my life isn't all rainbows. It's been hard lately. I'm being pulled in all directions with no support. Changing business trips, crazy family and a BIL who won't move out.

    Later, while trying to plan my work schedule I realize I have no clue what day the girls are planning on having my bachelorette party. I need to know so I can plan my schedule accordingly. So I email them and ask what is going on and could they please give me the date so I can make plans. I get an email back from one saying yes they are on it they have a date don't worry. But doesn't give me the date. I email back asking if I can have the date? My MOH emails back to everyone : Someone is being a Bridezilla

    Really?? Is it being a Bridezilla to know the date of the bacherlorette party so I can plan my work trips?? Am I really being that unreasonable? I just hate the word Bridezilla and have been doing my best to be as accomodating as possible to my bridesmaids. I gave them 3 dress choices, let them pick their own shoes, have not demanded they do anything. But I would like some help on things. I have 4 bridesmaids. Two are in state and two are not.  My MOH lives 20 minutes from me and I have not seen her in 2 months and have barely heard from her at all. All my other girls have helped me out, even the out of state ones. How do I handle this?

     
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    ES123    April 25, 2009   Laurel, MD

    I have been in an argument like this with my MOH, and neither of us have kids. The problem, this is a lose-lose argument. You both have valid points: agreeing to be an MOH means making time for the bride. And, if you are close enough to someone to be their MOH, it shouldn't be hard, these should be things that you want to do. I'm guessing that it seems to you that you made reasonable requests, tried to give her a heads up in order to make it as easy as possible on her. The fact that she's missed MANY things is making you upset.

    But, you have to think, your friend is feeling the same way. She probably feels that she had a legitimate excuse for skipping out on everything. Because they were all legitimate excuses, she doesn't see why that should upset you.

    I will give you the advice I gave myself in a very similar situation with my MOH. You have to just drop it or risk ruining your friendship. No matter what you do, or how right you might be, you have to drop it. If you push it with her, it will just confirm in her mind that you ARE a bridezilla who doesn't care about anything but your wedding - not even her own kid is more important than your wedding! You said your piece that you were upset, and that's all you can do. Try to lean on your other bridesmaids, since they seem to be more understanding.

     
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    Liz.smith    May 23, 2009   TN

    You're definitely not being a Bridezilla for wanting to know the date! That's just a Duh kind of thing. Of course you need to know.

    As for the rest. I think you *really* need to actually talk to her. You've mentioned a lot of texts and e-mails, but not too much in actual conversations. Even picking up the phone would be good, meeting for coffee or something would be better. And the most important thing I can say is get over being mad before you talk to her. If you come into it with a lot of sympathy for how busy she is, instead of "well I'm busy too!" she'll have a more positive response. You don't want her to just get defensive. Explain that you really do understand that she has a lot on her plate with being a single mom and all, but you need her help.

    You didn't handle the dress fitting cancellation too well. She tried to be there, even tho something that is important to her was going on, and you were too angry at the cancellation to let her. I totally understand your reaction, I would have done the same thing more than likely. But from her point-of-view she made some kind of effort and got rejected. Was there really any reason both girls couldn't have come? It probably hurt her feelings. Yes, yours were hurt first, but you won't get anywhere by holding on to the hurt and fighting more. This is one situation where it sounds like she's going to be immature and self-centered, and you'll have to be the bigger person even tho that's not really fair to you.

    I'm very sorry she's being this way! I know it's frustrating and upsetting. I'm glad your other BM's are being so great. And the bees are here to help! *hugs*

     
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    rosychicklet    September 27, 2008   Boston, MA

    Yikes.  First of all- you came to the right place to vent.  I think venting can help a lot.

    Second- Apologize to your MOH if you upset her (even if you are justified in being hurt).  Then tell her that you miss seeing her, hearing from her, being able to chat with her, REGARDLESS of wedding stuff.  Maybe it's hard for her, emotionally, to be invested in your wedding when she's divorced and overwhelmed by being a single mom?

    By avoiding talking about the wedding, and focusing on things that friends do together, you can avoid the bridezilla claim.  Because yes, she should be doing those things with you.  She should want to do those things- that's why she agreed to be MOH!

    Overall- it hurts to have a friend check-out of your life in general, not to mention when you are planning a wedding.

    So maybe ask her when you can get together for dinner (or some other non-wedding related thing) so you can reconnect.  Perhaps nurturing your friendship will help her get on board with the wedding planning.

    As for the bach party- just tell your girls that you appreciate your hard work and the last thing you want to happen is for you to ruin their planning by having to be out of town on business.

     

    Good luck!

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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    Thanks for some of your quick responses. Just a few more things...In recent weeks I have tried to get together with her. We make plans and she ALWAYS cancels. I email questions or even just try to talk and I rarely hear back from her.

     As far as her not coming to the fitting. She seemed relievd that I had let her off the hook. And yes, I was too mad to have here there, but even if I wasn't she would have probably only been there for 10 minutes so what would have been the point in that?

     
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    sc8493    April 18, 2009  

    Wow! I would so disagree with your MOH! That's no where near a bridezilla.

    She should have know that as a MOH you are SUPPOSE to be there and support the birde. She should have taken that inot consideration before asking you if she could be your MOH. I also don't think she has a right to dump on you like that. It doesn't sound like you haven't tried to be understanding, so she shouldn't have said that.

    Secondly, I know its rather frustrating to have a friend that keeps backing out of things, but do you think you want to have to continue to deal with her? What happens when other things come up? Is she going to be supportive on your wedding day? Not that this should be taken lightly, but it maybe be something you might want to consider after wou weigh in everything that has been going on.

    Asking for a specific date doesn't warrant being called that either! I totally understand being busy! You don't want to not be able to show up for pre wedding parties and showers so its logical to ask for a specific date.  Could you maybe tell the girls certain nights that you could do it? That way you have it narrowed down some?

     Good luck with everything!

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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    Ah yes... I know this delimma well.  You don't have kids so you couldn't possibly know how busy and important my life is.  I think someone already said it above, but there is no way you are going to "win" an argument on this issue.  Everyone's life is equally important whether it involves kids or not.

    The best approach is to actually call her and deal with the issue when you are not mad or prone to losing your temper.  You're going to have to suck this up, and hear her frustrations out.  You'll also need to discuss your feelings, but stick with "I feel" or "It really hurt my feelings." Apologize for what you need to apologize for (if there is anything), and assure her that there is nothing that you want more than to have her in your wedding.

    Don't get sucked in to the point by point arguments.  The essential issue is that you feel unsupported and she feels demands from you...  Acknowledge that both are valid feelings and then move on.  If she feels valued, it's going to be really hard for her to stay angry.

    It is amazing how when people feel listened to and validated, anger just dissipates.  You are just going to need to channel your inner big kid and be the bigger person about this.  I know my inner big kid has been getting an intense work-out lately ;)

     
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    nathalietanya      

    I have to say that I don't think it's fair to expect your bridesmaids to do anything aside from buying the dress and showing up for the rehearsal dinner and wedding.

    While I probably wouldn't call you a full-on bridezilla, I do think it's out of line for you to expect your girls to help you with any of the wedding work. (In my opinion, you and your finance should do everything, maybe with some help from your parents.)

    Have you tried getting together or talking with your MOH about something that isn't the wedding? It often seems to me that brides who get irritated with their WP for not doing enough are actually driving their friends away by making every conversation and get-together about the wedding.

    If she has kids with busy schedules, why don't you offer to go over to her place or to go to one of her son's basketball games with her? I think that would be a great way to show you care about her life and her family. 

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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    sc8493: I had given the girls dates, but work is so volitile lately! Trips just keep popping up so I thought it would be easier just to know a date so I could plan around it.

     I just left a message for her saying  that I was  upset because I was looking forward to spending some time with her.  I also asked if there is a time in the next few weeks when we could get together.

    Stay tuned...

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    nathalietanya: Yes I have tried to get together with her on stuff other than wedding related. I never hear back from her on those things. And might I add that she wanted to be my MOH. She campaigned for the position. Told me we would have sooooo much fun planning things together. And might I also add that I am well aware that people are doing me a favor when they come and help me which is why I usally give them a little thank you gift. 

    Also, why should I show I have to care about her family when she shows no interest in mine? I have been there for her more times than I can count. Why is it so hard for her to be there for me?

    And can you suggest a way I get get my fiance to help me with things...he never does. And my parents are also a state away.

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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    Oh, one more thing....a few weeks ago I asked her if she wanted to go on a spa day with me (completely not-wedding related)...she said no.

     
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    holkish    05/22/2009   Illinois

    Nathalietanya,

    I completely agree with you!

    I think that a Bridezilla is a person who puts herself, her wishes and her wedding above anything else. Although your wedding is important, it is just one day. Are you really going to let one day consume your life for such a long time. Of course, to a certian degree, you have to just to make sure everything goes as planned but I think you and your fiance made the decision to get married and no one else's lives should be effected because of that. If you are not paying for your MOH's dress, she has already given a lot considering she is a single mother and that money could have gone to her children. She is obviously doing SOMETHING because she is planning your party. If that's all she has the time to do, be greatful that it's something. I would just email her explaining why you need the date and I'm sure she'll give it to you. Be happy that she's doing whatever she can and make sure to keep putting yourself in other people's shoes. It's the only way to understand people, keep friends and be happy in my opinion.

     
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    Miss Burgundy    May 28, 2010   Southern California

    Is there another bridesmaid that can maybe help you out with facilitating relations between you and your MOH? It sounds like you both could use someone to mediate the situation.

    I totally do not think you are being a bridezilla at all. I understand your situation pretty well because mine is very similar. I picked one of my dearest friends to be my MOH, and she was really excited about it at first but just did NOTHING to help me out. I ended up getting a second MOH, and she's literally doing all of the MOH work herself. We are occasionally able to drag MOH #1 to meetings and stuff, but she's really reluctant to do anything that does not directly relate back to herself. It's not like I'm a demanding bride at all- a meet up once per month does not seem very demanding to me, especially when I'm totally able to work around her schedule and I sense that you are in the same boat. If you get the opportunity to somehow talk to MOH again, let her know that you're worried about her. That you care about her as a friend, and I think you guys need to spend some quality friendship time together before discussing your wedding again.

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    holkish - I do not think I am putting myself, my wishes and my wedding above anything else. 

    And the other girls are doing the planning of the party, and I did not ask them to do so. I do not demand that the girls do things with me. I ask if they can, but don't expect them to. But this is my MOH and she has bailed on plans with me consistently lately, whether they are wedding plans or not. If she can't come to things fine, but she says she will and then at the very last minute backs out. Every. Single. Time.

     
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    Hi Irishgirl

    I think you need to take a step back for a minute and realize that what you're asking (whether or not anyone agrees with it) is to much for your friend. It doesn't matter what the traditional duties of an MOH are, or whether some of us believe you shouldnt' ask your bridal party for help or even what you expected from your friend. What does matter, now, is that she (for whatever reason) can not live up to your expectations.

    So, you need to readjust. You need to accept that she simply can not give you what you want. If she is important to you, than you need to figure out how to maintain your friendship with her without letting this continue to upset you.

    In the details you've provided it sounds like the majority of things you've been talking about with her lately are the wedding. I think when you do get her on the phone or see her next, you should discuss other things, and other things only. Do not bring up the wedding. If you need info about your bachelorette, email another BM seperately and ask (and do not complain about your MOH while you do it too. the last thing you need is dissent among your ranks!)

    I am currently a bride and also a bridesmaid. And quite frankly, while I adore my friend, my wedding/my life are of course more important to me. That does not mean I don't want to be there for my friend, it just means I am careful in what time/energy I can give her because my life is busy too. Your friend is not willing to give more of her time and energy. You need to accept that if you are going to be her friend. You can not force her into it. It just won't work. Be appreciative of what she can give.

    Friendships are tricky and as we get older they ebb and flow. It's taken me a long time to come to grips with that in my own friendships. Sometimes people show up in the way you need them to and sometimes they don't. It's your decision whether or not to maintain that friendship.

    I hope this helps.

    -Habibi

     
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    Erindesmar    October 17, 2009   Boston, MA

    I agree with Rosy & Doctorgirl.  Another point that I think is worth thinking about is the tone in which you ask for things.  If the way that you are asking about plans seems "demanding" to others, they might not be as happy to work on things for you.  Just a thought!

     
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    Miss Burgundy    May 28, 2010   Southern California

    Also, regarding the email she sent out about "Someone is being a bridezilla" if it were me I would probably play it off as a joke to the email group and say something like "Very funny, but I really need to know the date so that I can attend. It would be horrible if I accidently booked something on that date!"

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    ljlkclark    6/7/08   Sonoma, CA

    "What does matter, now, is that she (for whatever reason) can not live up to your expectations.

    So, you need to readjust. You need to accept that she simply can not give you what you want. If she is important to you, than you need to figure out how to maintain your friendship with her without letting this continue to upset you."

    I couldn't agree with this more!  I was all set to talk about whether you were or weren't expecting too much and whether she was or was not doing enough to help you.  But the bottom line is that rightly or wongly, she *isn't* going to live up to the role you want from her.  You can't change her behavior--you can only change how you deal with it.

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    When brides pick their bridal party or plan a wedding in general, they can find unexpected surprises.  They don't always know what they're getting into.  Sometimes that happens to bridesmaids too.  Maybe she thought being a MOH would be different.  Maybe some feelings she didn't know she would have, snuck up on her.  Did you explain to your girls what you expected of them when you asked them to be in your BP?  If not, it's possible they had different expectations than you.  (In how they would help.  What they would pay.)

    It sounds like your MOH is being passive aggressive the way she makes plans and constantly cancels.  I agree with Rosychicklet.  I think she is having a hard time dealing with you getting married.  How long has she been divorced?  Her life cannot be how she imagined it would be.  It is hard being a sinlge mom.  I would think she is pretty jealous.  Perhaps she didn't realize she would be when she was jockeying for position.    Sometimes girls think about wearing a fancy dress and being recognized as a close friend of the bride.  They don't think of some of the work that is involved.  When the work begins, she might have gotten a dose of reality that was hard to swallow.  You asked why you should care about her family, when she doesn't care about yours.  You have to be the bigger person here, especially if you want to keep your friendship.  Have you asked her lately how she is handling her divorce or how it's making her feel that you're getting married?  If not, start there.  Maybe she'll start to melt.

    As for the Bach party.. well are they that standard?  Maybe I'm under a rock, but I didn't have one.  Some gals on the boards didn't have a shower.  I guess I'm asking if they knew to throw one for you.  If they didn't even know, having you ask them about it, might make them think you are expecting too much.  (But I don't know what you've established with them.)  Also, is it possible they are trying to surprise you? I know it's getting close to the wedding.  Is there someone you can trust to ask them about it, in case it is a surprise?

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    ok Habibi, I will readjust my expectaton to be that she simply cannot do anything for me or be a friend in any sort of way. 

     Things I've asked her to do in the last month:

    • spa day - not wedding related
    • birthday dinner (her's and mine) - not wedding related
    • dress fitting - wedding related.

    Frankly I believe I have been bending over backwards to try to accomodate her and I get nothing in return. I am always there for her. When she was feeling down in Nov. I brought her a gift basket to cheer her up, gave her a present at Christmas, tried to schedule a spa day with her. Whatever craziness in my life is going on I try to be there for her when she needs me.

    Also, I do not think I am demanding when I ask people to help me with things. I ask if anyone is available and always say it's no big deal if you can't come.  And I've tried to do as many things for them as possible. I could not buy their dresses, since it was not in my budget, but I did buy them their necklaces and a pin that goes on their dresses and I made them as reasonably priced for them as I could. I also reserved their hotel rooms for them.Just keep in mind before I even asked her to be my MOH she was asking me if she was going to be my MOH.

    Bottom line, whether or not she is my MOH or just a friend. I think it is rude to make plans with someone and back out at the last minute every single time.

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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    Tanya123 - I did not ask them to throw me a bach party. They asked me. They told me they were planning one, I simply wanted to know the date.

     
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    Janna19    June 7, 2008   New York

    @<font size="2" color="#81a026">nathalietanya</font> - I am with you. I  didn't expect my MOH or BMs to do anything beyond wear a dress and spend the day getting ready with me! Luckily a couple offered to go dress shopping with me and they threw me an amazing bachelorette.  But no other errands, chores, etc.  I know they love me and were excited for me, and they didn't have to show it by doing stuff for me.

    @Irishgirl - I would imagine your MOH is trying her best, and probably feels bad that her best isn't good enough for you - being pissed off at her is probably not the right tact and neither is judging how much time you think she should have free.  I would consider changing your approach entirely - try to reset your expectations to her just being there for you on your wedding day as someone who wants the best for you.  Let the rest go - I can imagine that in her mind, going to a fitting just isn't a huge deal when she is a single mom. 

     
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    Erindesmar    October 17, 2009   Boston, MA

    At the risk of sounding snarky (which I do not want to do) it sounds like you have your mind made up that (1) you are in the right and MOH and other bridesmaids are in teh wrong (2) there is nothing you can do to fix the situation and (3) your relationship with your MOH is down the tubes.

    We all pretty much agree that your MOH is acting strange and maybe even rude.  I think the only thing that you can do is sit down with her and ask her about what is bothering her in her life and then explain how you have felt a little hurt.  

    I would also explain to your BMs that you are thrilled they are planning something for you and cannot wait, but just want to make sure your decks are cleared so you can go. 

    Again, I think it is all in the tone.  Perhaps speaking in person is better than email.  

     

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    It's not just the fitting. It's everything. She's not there for me period, in life or the wedding. And she has backed out of so many things with me (wedding and non-wedding related) that I am wondering and scared that she will also back out of the wedding completely.

    I guess I am feeling a little defeated. I didn't realize it is wrong to be a little upset when someone says they will do stuff with you (and not just things I ask, but made promises early on that she would help with stuff) and then backs out. I think there are some of you that are misunderstanding me. You seem to think I am demanding that my bridesmaids do things with me. I am not, but it would be nice to see them or talk to them (wedding related or not) in the 6 months leading up to me wedding. I feel llike I asked her to be my MOH and then she vanished out of my life.

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    Erindesmar (message) <span class="numpostsandtitle">  October 17, 2009  Boston, MA

    At the risk of sounding snarky (which I do not want to do) it sounds like you have your mind made up that (1) you are in the right and MOH and other bridesmaids are in teh wrong (2) there is nothing you can do to fix the situation and (3) your relationship with your MOH is down the tubes.

    Whoa, whoa, whoa!!!! I have no problem with the other bridesmaids. Not at all. My other bridesmaids complained to me about my MOH long before I got upset. I defended her until this weekend when she asked if I was upset and then couldn't handle that I was. 

     
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    Erindesmar    October 17, 2009   Boston, MA

    I do not think anyone thinks that you are being overly demanding.  But it seems like perhaps that is how your friends are perceiving things so I think that people are trying to give you with a little advice to mend things with your MOH. 

    People have different reactions to weddings.  My FI's sisters are bridesmaids but could probably care less about anything wedding related and it is like pulling teeth just getting basic information from them.  Most of us have dealt with similar issues on some level too! 

    But it sounds like your problems with your MOH run deeper than this wedding and perhaps you need to just talk to her about your friendship in general.  We all wish you well!

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    Also, like I said way earlier today. I have a message in to my MOH (since I can never get a hold of her) saying that I was sorry if I was rude to her this weekend. That I was just upset because I was looking forward to seeing her and spending time with her. And I asked her if she had any time to get together in the next couple of weeks to celebrate our birthdays since we didn't get to earlier in the month.

    I have yet to hear back from her. 

     
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    Janna19    June 7, 2008   New York

    If she was a good enough friend for you to want her to be your MOH, I assume that she has normally been a better friend.  Something is probably going on in her life, and maybe she doesn't want to burden you with it right now, or just feels bad complaining....

     
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    lreighard1    8/22/09   Washington, DC

    I think you should schedule some face time for sure.  It's hard when you're getting no support and it sounds like your MOH is under a lot of stress unrelated to your wedding.  Hopefully if y'all can meet and talk it over, you'll be able to see each other's points a little more clearly - good luck!  let us know how it goes!

     
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    Something that is helpful for brides wanting to avoid this is to have a "Bridesmaid Handbook" or some way to communicate your expectations IN THE BEGINNING.  It's important that they know what they're getting into!

    Also, I highly recommend the "Escape Clause."  The ability for your MOH to step down and just be a BM if she feels she can't meet all your expectations.  This is like a "without hard feelings" clause for if she gets overwhelmed, and should only be offered if you are both willing to follow through with "no hard feelings" otherwise it's useless.

    It sounds like the advice you really want is how to tell her you don't want her to be your MOH anymore.  This is a really sensitive matter, and can break a friendship for life.  Think really hard before even considering that.  My SIL switched me as a MOH to BM 5 min before the procession started and I still hold the grudge even though I know she was totally justified in doing so (I was 16 and I sucked as a MOH).  I would ask her if she feels it was too much to ask of her to be MOH.  She may very well be too busy with her child.  Tell her you want her to feel included, and you want her help, but if MOH is just too much to ask of her, you understand.  I think instead of a Bridezilla you've got a Bridesmaidzilla on your hands.

    Above all, you HAVE TO CALM DOWN.  Every answer to this post you seem to get more and more worked up.  Relax, breathe, and try to empathize with her.  You have to see it from her side and just admit to yourself that there may be some truth to her side.  Breathe, take a few days to really understand her side, then talk to her.

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    I am not worked up, but it seems like people keep misunderstanding me and putting words in my mouth. With every post I am trying to explain things so that people can respond with some understanding to as what is going on. It seems to me that people are zeroing in on what they want to in my posts and missing other points. I understand her side, really I do. But right now there are other things going on in my life too that makes it hard to be completely willing to bend over backwards for others. I feel that almost every person in my life is walking all over me lately and whenever I finally have enough and tell them how I feel, I get them telling me I am a bad person. Why does sticking up for your own feelings have to end up with you being a bad person in everyone's eyes?

    I think I might have made a mistake in asking her to be my MOH. I do not have that many close girlfriends and there may have been someone I should have asked instead, but was afraid to because she just moved away. I think I was right to not ask this person. I didn't feel it was fair to have her buy a dress and a plane ticket to come to my wedding and it turns out she just lost her job so it was the right thing for me to do. Instead of her I chose someone who said she would be there for me and she lives 20 minutes away so I thought I was going to have someone to help me with wedding stuff as well as a friend. Turns out I was wrong. An aquaintace of mine recently told me that she cringed when I told her who I chose as my MOH. She knew how flaky and unreliable she was, but didn't know if she should say anything to me or not. 

    I realize that I put myself in this position. I do not plan to ask her to step down as MOH. I do not think I ever implied I was going to do that. What I was looking for was advice on how to get her to see more of my side and for me to get a better view of hers. I now have a better view of her side. I can be more understanding, in fact I have been mostly understanding with her. There was just this one instance of her asking if I was upset and I told the truth. Had she not asked I probably wouldn't have said anything. 

    Like I have said twice before, I have left a message apologizing for being rude and asking her to get together. I have yet to hear back from her. So now the ball is in her court. There is only so much I can do to resolve the situation. I am not going to beg and plead for her to forgive me when I do not think I really did anything wrong. My feelings are my feelings and I have a right to them, as she does to hers. I will move on and continue to lean on my other bridesmaids  and my MOH can be as involved as she wants to or has the time for.

     
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    rasgoola    7/18/09   Boston

    Hi Irishgirl - In response to your original question, I don't think you are being a bridezilla and I am sorry to see that you've had to defend your actions/feelings here when you were mainly looking for advice in getting through to your MOH. I think while the original post may not have been as clear as to how you've tried to reach out to her, I think your subsequent posts show that what you really want is to just fix things with your friend and you are hurt that she doesn't seem to want to reciprocate.

    I wish you the best of luck in talking to your MOH and hopefully you will have good news to report back to us once you get the chance to talk to her.

     

     
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    First of all, I don't think people are putting words in your mouth. You said the following:

    "I chose someone who said she would be there for me and she lives 20 minutes away so I thought I was going to have someone to help me with wedding stuff as well as a friend."

    To me that indicates that you selected this girl, not because she is your closest friend and you want to honor her with a role in your wedding, but because you thought it would be convenient for her to help you out on wedding planning. Bridesmaids and maids/matrons of honor are not your employees or your wedding coordinator. They are your friends. I personally never, ever talk to the girls who are participating in my wedding about my planning. I talk to them about their lives, and my life.

    But I get the feeling that you aren't that interested in your MOH's life, because you said:

    "Also, why should I show I have to care about her family when she shows no interest in mine?"

    I'm really sorry if I'm coming off sounding mean. I don't intend to be; I promise.

    I just think you aren't realizing how your communication is sounding right now, and you keep getting more and more defensive about it. If multiple strangers on this board think that you need to take a step back and relax about your wedding planning, then think about how your MOH must be feeling.

    Like everyone else has said, sit down with her, check your defensive instincts at the door and hash this out. If she is really a close enough friend to have been selected for a top honor in your wedding, then you can work through this.

     
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    I would imagine your MOH is trying her best, and probably feels bad that her best isn't good enough for you - being pissed off at her is probably not the right tact and neither is judging how much time you think she should have free.  I would consider changing your approach entirely - try to reset your expectations to her just being there for you on your wedding day as someone who wants the best for you.  Let the rest go - I can imagine that in her mind, going to a fitting just isn't a huge deal when she is a single mom. 

    Janna you couldn't have said it better!

     
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    finbladez    August 2009   BOS

    I think there is this stigma that comes with weddings, a stigma that is often addressed on these boards and seems to be here in irishgirl's question. The stigma is that the day is super-ultra sepcial, for a variety of reasons, ranging from the traditions that surrounding weddings to the actual commitment that is supposed to be life altering and permanent. All of which are valid, as feeling always are.

    This importance seems to really draw out  what feels like the "reality" of many relationships, because as friends, we are expected to help make happen and celebrate in this stigma, to be the friend we are supposed to be. Irishgirl, it seems to me like you want to put the kabash on this relationship because this girl doesn't give you enough, not just in your special day, but for the past few months. I would ask you to hold out on that, and ask yourself how you are going to feel when all the hype dies down.

    The best friendship, in my opinion, is one that means you don't have to talk to someone constantly or share in everything special that happens in their life. It is wonderful and beautiful when you can find that time or are able to share everything. My best friends, however, are the ones that I can not see for almost a year and re-connect with quickly and comfortably. And yes, these people have missed some of the most important days of my life, but they could celebrate it with me a year later, when we both found the time to re-connect. Because the reality of life is that it is constantly changing and crap happens and there are going to be plenty of times when I am too obsessed with making my life and immidiate family work as a functioning unit to be able to give anything to anyone. It sounds to me like this girl may not have the time in the morning to tie her shoes and make sure the lights are off before she leaves her house, trying to make everything work, just as you are ultra stressed and full of tasks that you have to get through your own day while planning a wedding. 

    But how important is this day to you, and how much will you regret loosing a friendship one year, five years, ten years down the road because someone couldn't make this one day as special as you needed it to be? Can you make that happen for yourself and keep in tact something that has grown over numerous previous years?

     
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    mrbee    March 5, 2005   New York City, New York

    Hey irishgirl!  I hope things work out with you and your MOH. :-)

    There's a lot of good support and advice above.  The only thing I'd add is that it doesn't always matter who is right or wrong (and for the record, I think you are in the "right" here!). If the other party feels wronged, then the only way to repair things is to reach out with an olive branch... even if you wish the olive branch came first from them.

    Good luck!!!  And much love from the Bee family...

     
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    mrsleopard    November 22, 2008   Los Angeles

    irishgirl - i don't think you're a bridezilla.

    but i do agree with a lot of the responses in this thread.  it maybe that your MOH isn't able to dedicate as much time as she thought she could have in the beginning.  or maybe it's something else going on in her personal life that she may not want to talk about.

     

     

     
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    irishgirl    May 2, 2009   Minneapolis

    Rasgoola, thanks for being someone who actually understands. That is exactly what I mean. I am trying to work with her and yes nathalietanya she was someone who I thought was my friend. I think what has been really frustrating to me on here is that I may have said some things that needed a little more explanation, but people keep referring to bits and pieces and don't put all the pieces together. I exlpain things further, but people keep pulling up stuff fro m older posts.

    As far as me not being interested in my MOH's life. I am interested. What I meant is why do I have to be the one that is always interested in her life when she shows no interest in mine? I kinda feel that our relationship has been a bit one sided lately. I feel as if I am putting in all the effort. When I really sit and think about it and look back on our friendship it seems like it has always been that way. She is a very charismatic person. And you tend to get sucked into her life. She tells you what a great friend she is and I guess I believed it.  I believed she was a great friend to me. I believed she was always there for me, but the truth always was that she was there for me when it was convenient for her. I have dropped everything many times to help her in a time of need. She has never done the same for me.

    I kind of disagree with those of you that say that she thinks she is doing her best and feels bad for not being there and that her best isn't good enough for me. I think she is pretty wrapped up in herself and her life and feels everyone she should always be the center of attention. And I think she is upset because I actually called her on some of her stuff. Please keep in mind, that all of my other bridesmaids are a little angry at her too. It's not just me. And I'm not really angry anymore just hurt and confused as to why I must take this kind of treatment from her. 

    Basically what it comes down to is yes, I am dissapointed that she has not helped with things at all. My other bridesmaids are upset that she hasn't helped at all. But I am hurt that she makes plans with me and then ALWAYS cancels. Something always comes up that is more important. Makes me feel like an unimportant person in her life. 

    I want to thank everyone who has given me valuable advice. I am much calmer about the situation. Right now though, I think I have done everything I can do. Until she agrees to meet with me and not cancel ;) there is nothing more I can do.

     
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    i do not think youre being a bridezilla at all.  i do, however, think you might need to rethink who you chose to be your MOH.  personally, im not asking for my WP to do any of the planning, but i know lots of people who do.  maybe she didnt realize she would have to do this much "work"?  i think you can only reach out so far before you fall.  if you keep calling her and apologizing to her unnecessarily, youre going to be so unhappy.  just nip this in the bud.  both of you are unhappy with this arrangement.  why let it continue?

     
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    cantabrigian    July 18, 2009   Stowe, VT

    irishgirl - I'm so sorry you are feeling let down by your MOH. It's pretty crappy that you are going more than half way to meet her and she can't fill the gap. All expectations aside, you are disappointed and have every right to feel that way.

    My advice is to do nothing. You've expressed that you were upset. That's really all you can do at this point. You have a little over two months until your wedding. In the meantime lean on your fiancee and other bridesmaids for support and help planning your wedding. Give yourself some time to let it go and give your MOH some time for herself. If she was that enthusiastic initially, she'll come to you. She may need some space.

    As for the bachelorette party, have you considered that your bridesmaids may be trying to surprise you? Could this be a reason why the date hasn't been revealed to you yet?

    Good luck and keep us posted!

     

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