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I don't know why, but it has ALWAYS bothered me, I always figure i take my DH last name not his first. I am my own person with my own name, Please use it! (short vent) lol Everyone has there pet peeves and that is one of mine
I"ve seen lots of posts of this nature so no, I assure you, you're not the only one! :)
ETA: I should add that it doesn't bother me in the least and I quite like it. I don't feel as if i am losing my identity, but as a married woman, my identity is half of the partnership.
Oh, it's definitely a pet peeve of mine. Seeing just "Mr. & Mrs. John Smith" makes me feel like the woman has disappeared. At the very least, she's been reduced to "Mrs." and that's it. I hate getting mail addressed like that, especially considering I didn't take DH's last name.
I actually love it. I never get called it except on formal wedding invitations, darn it. I just love his name and I love being his Mrs! We just don't have the kind of relationship where I would ever worry about being submerged, nor have I ever had a relationship with a man like that, so it's just not an issue or concern of mine. I am trying to get him to go along with being called Mr. Magdalena but he won't go for it ;)
I dont see whats so bad about it. It doesnt make me any less me. Thats how I addressed all my wedding invites and thats how we were adressed on most of our wedding cards.
@Mrs.ChubbyBunny: understandable, but 1/2 my partner, let him take 1/2 my name lol
I hate it except for when it has to do with formal stuff, when I'm okay with it.
I don't like it. I think it should be Mr. and Mrs. Smith or John and Jane Smith. But I know the "formal" thing is Mr. and Mrs. John Smith because
Mr. John and Mrs. Jane Smith
or
Mr. and Mrs. John and Jane Smith
are both too awkward.
I can't stand it. I've actually never been addressed this way because I've made my feelings on this issue well known. I refuse to love my identity just because I'm married. To me it's insulting to be only acknowledged as his wife and not my own separate person.
I haven't been addressed in this way -- but stuff like this doesn't usually bother me. I did think this post was originally going to be a rant about the movie though haha-- I was wondering why you were bringing it up so many years later.
I can't stand it either, but I have no idea how we're being announced... any way but that ! :p
I guess I'm the odd (wo)man out. I love that sort of address. But then, Im old-fashioned in a lot of ways. It just sounds...stately.
I detest it.
I am not simply an extension of my husband, he's just LUCKY I want to take his last name. I wouldn't get openly up in arms about it, but I would be miffed. We got an invite addressed to he and I as if we were already married (why? I dk...I guess bc we live together) and I was just like..."Here, this is for you." I get that it's etiquette, but it's etiquette I am not the least bit fond of.
ETA: I suppose our invites will be confiscated by the etiquette police ;), but I'm not doing this on ours. I think it particularly irks me when my mom is addressed like this....because my mom is Dr. She is not "Mrs Joe Ya-Da-Ya-Da" She is DR. Mom Ya-Da-Ya-Da.
I dislike it too.
I'm changing my family (last) name, because we are becoming a family.
But I am not his property or an extension of him: I'm keeping my very recognisable first name, not assuming his.
@AmeliaBedelia: It should be (formally speaking) Mr. and Dr. John Smith then. If youre a doctor, then you should always be addressed as such.
I get annoyed about it when I receive mail addressed to Mr. and Mrs. John Smith. I took his last name. I didn't lose ALL of my name. These things mostly come from older relatives, but it still annoys the sh** out of me.
@Caizn: Ah but her last name is hyphenated. So really I feel like she loses her identity when she gets invites for "Mr and Mrs John ______" Even if it said "Mr and Dr John _____." Then again, my family just loves being complicated. So I guess we have to deal with the etiquette stuff, and other people's interpretation of it. It's not as if it's really an issue, I just find it annoying and she doesn't like it either (understandably). Again...I just hate it. I don't find it awesome or great or whatever. I never have, I won't. But I'll deal with it because I'm a grown up.
When I was working on my B.A. and my ex was working on his Phd I went bonkers at a departmental party after the fifth time I was introduced as Phd candidate and his wife, retread. I loudly said I am RETREAD FIRST, Phds wife second. Made an impression on the roomful of scientists. ( and it was an experiment on how much is too much to drink).
@AmeliaBedelia: See, this is why I'm having such a hard time figuring out how to address envelopes for invites! I really am leaning towards "Mr. Hisname and Mrs. Hername Lastname" for the format instead of the "Mr. and Mrs. Hisname Lastname" but etiquette is ruling against me and I don't want to be percieved as rude. :(
I don't like it either. I find it offensive, unless it's from someone elderly.
I addressed our invitations to Mr. and Mrs. John and Jane Smith, where appropriate.
We asked the DJ to announce us with both our first names and DH's last name, no titles. He threw in the Mr. & Mrs. anyway (we're technically Dr. and Dr., but don't use those socially, which is why we asked for no titles) but he used both first names, so that was fine.
Doesn't drive me crazy but I don't care for it.
When I worked at the bank an eldery lady called in. I was trying to verify her identity and asked her her name. She responded, "Mrs. John Smith." It took several minutes of her insisting her 1st name was John till I was finally able to get her to say it was Jane. You're still Jane. Just because you got married doesn't mean you're now John. :)
But for addressing letters, I don't think it's a big deal either way.
@AmeliaBedelia: lol thats a whole other can of worms. At that point I would throw up my hands lol. I feel like I probably will address my invitations the "formal" way, and I think I only have one family to worry about it. And its just the kids so I will probably just say Dr. Jane Smith and Family since my aunt is divorced. Gah! I think I will just resort to calling everyone Bob!!!
I also have to add that etiquette should not take precedence over knowingly offending people.
Etiquette rules didn't just come out of nowhere. People didn't address women as "Mrs. John Smith" because some book said so. The etiquette books were written to say that because, at the time, that was considered the respectful form of address for married women. The whole point of etiquette is to not offend or disrespect people. Since nowadays many women find this form of address to be offensive (see the numerous discussions and polls all over weddingbee), the rules need to change to reflect this. Addressing someone in a way that you know for a fact is offensive to them, is not good etiquette.
So, if you know your cousin Jane is going to be upset and offended if she receives an invitation addressed to Mrs. John Smith when she is really Ms. Jane Doe-Smith, don't address it that way. Your cousin's feelings are more important than the opinion of some book written 100 years ago. And if your great-aunt Mary would be offended to NOT be addressed as Mrs. Edward Johnson, than make sure that's how you address her. If you don't know for sure, err on the side of majority opinion for that generation or for the region you live in.
Besides, if you're going to argue that you want to follow strict etiquette rules no matter what, you should be sending hand-written and hand-addressed (by you, not someone you paid) invitations with no RSVP cards (because strict etiquette would say it's rude to assume your guests don't have stationary or don't know how to write a response letter).
@goldenapple82: "So, if you know your cousin Jane is going to be upset and offended if she receives an invitation addressed to Mrs. John Smith when she is really Ms. Jane Smith-Doe, don't address it that way."
This is a little different though - etiquette would say to address that person as Ms. Jane Smith-Doe, not address her as Mrs. just because she is married (if she hyphenated her name).
I agree that if you know a person does not want to be addressed a certain way, you should not address them that way. But it's trickier to decide what default to go with if you don't know every single person on your invite list's feelings on the subject.
@laurelina: I agree that if you know a person does not want to be addressed a certain way, you should not address them that way. But it's trickier to decide what default to go with if you don't know every single person on your invite list's feelings on the subject.
This.
I think it's gross. I dont find it endearing or exciting or cutesy in any way.
Yeah, figuring that out is hard. I prefer the more neutral Mr. and Mrs. Joe and Jane Smith or Mr. Joe and Mrs. Jane Smith when they have the same last name and you want to use titles. I don't know if anyone would find that offensive. At worst, they'd consider it not properly formal, but I'm willing to live with that opinion of me. We addressed to elderly relatives as Mrs. John Smith because we know for sure that's what they want and used both first names for everyone else that had the same last name. We also went ahead and used Dr. and military titles for anyone on our list who had them (a third of the guest list at least, so I couldn't ask individually), even though I know a lot of them don't use their Dr. titles socially. Again, I figured at worst those people would consider it overly formal or pretentious of me, but not offensive, whereas leaving the titles off might be offensive to some (I know two people would have been upset). I gave up on the Ms./Miss thing and used Ms for everyone except one girl I know prefers Miss. I just couldn't ask everyone individually, so I had to pick the one that was less likely to be upsetting in our social group.
I hate it too. We'll be announced as "Firstname and firstname lastname" at our wedding, since I don't care about titles, we're just not formal people. I won't make a big deal of it if people address formal stuff to us that way in the future, but if anyone tries introducing me that way, they'll hear about it ;)
@claireos:i don't mind mr. and mrs. john smith, but in this scenario, it's too weird lol
I was talking to FI about this today! Two women I know got married today (not to each other) and all their friends kept calling them Mrs. Hisfirst Hislast on facebook. I told FI that if people called me that on my facebook wall when we got married, I'd delete the post (and of course very quickly correct them if it happened in person!). I'm not changing my name, but I'll leave a wall post up if they call me Mrs. Hislast. However, Mrs. Hisfirst Hislast is waaaay too far over that line for me.
@claireos: That's kind of depressing to me, that she would insist her name was his name. I know, different generation and all, but I sure am glad I'm of this generation! I don't think I would've fit in back in her day.
Definitely pet peeve of mine. We hired a DJ that also offered to do MC services, but decided to have a friend do it. We wanted our friend to be off formal duties by the time dancing rolled around, so the only words we had the DJ say all night was introducing our first dance, and I made it clear to him that I really HATE being introduced as Mr and Mrs John Smith. Sure enough, he went ahead and did it that way.
He did not receive a tip.
Agreed! Woman have been slaving away forever to enjoy the freedom and respect woman of our age enjoy now... only to be shot down by "Mr and Mrs John Smith"
I'm not sure that I hate it so much. The only time that I ever really see it used anymore is in formal settings where I kind of like and prefer the formality of it. I'm not saying that it should be used all of the time, but this is an instance where the ultra-feminist stance is completely lost on me.
@Crabbabs: It DOES sound awkward, but that's exactly how I addressed my invitations and RSVP cards because I dislike "Mr. and Mrs. John Smith" that much. Ha!
I actually like it!
Especially like @EsgBailey said about a formal setting/note.
I don't feel any less "me" by being announced or greeted as Mr & Mrs his name & I guess I find it an honor to be associated as such.... I like being "his" =)
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