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Acck!! You don't need their drama at your wedding. You are NOT wrong. You are being realistic, and she isn't. You CAN have a wedding without her there. People are so selfish sometimes! If she will come alone, fine. If she brings man X, fine. If she is bringin man EX...no way!
I'd let her bring him. She still talks to him and I know it might a little awkward but on the bright side you'll be so busy & happy you won't really be thinking about him on your wedding day. Plus, I've learned the hard way, never bad mouth a friend's ex in case they get back together. If they DO get back together, it'll just make things more uncomfortable between you guys.
I can understand your concern, but if the choice is between her coming alone and being uncomfortable, or bringing him, you may just want to be gracious and let him come. A lot of women hate going to weddings alone, so it may be a real kindness to her. If you are worried they will cause a scene, you could gently watch their alcohol consumption or have a groomsmen help.
I can understand your concern about the ex. But I think you should let her bring the ex and just say, "this is our day, please no drama." If drama comes about, ask them to leave and end the friendship until your BM can grow past this ex.
But what I would have an issue with is where you said that you & FI would want to meet the "guest" beforehand. I don't quite understand that? What happens if she just wanted to bring a close girlfriend? Would you still want to meet that friend as well? I just don't understand the whole have-to-meet the guest beforehand. Not to be rude, but you aren't her parents so if she has a +1, then its a +1 regardless.
How much time would you actually spend around the ex? From what I hear from brides and grooms, they hardly talk to anyone more than a few minutes. While I think a brief exchange of pleasantries would be nice, that is probably going to be the limit of your interaction. I appreciate your concern for your friend, but in the end, you extended a plus one, and that usually isn't accompanied with exclusion criteria. You might not want her to inadvertantly provide the situation to start her down the old path, but she's got to make those decisions.
I'd I'm not proud to admit this, but I stayed in a relationship that wasn't going anywhere so I didn't have to be the single 30 yo MOH at both of my sister's weddings. I drug my feet in making the decision before the weddings (they were a few weeks apart) but in the end, I was terrified of having to go alone, mostly because at the time I thought of myself as having failed. I'm guessing your MOH might have similar feelings, so humor her and let him come.
I can't blame you for not wanting him there. But if you allow your Bp to bring dates, I think you need to let them pick them. Is there a head table for the BP? If so, be sure she lets him know that she won't really be available to him until after dinner. (You won't have to deal with him through picks or during dinner.) And I don't think you'll really notice him there. You'll be too busy with those you do care about.
I'm not sure what's going on that you think there'll be some drama at the wedding. So maybe there is more to it. But based on what you posted, I'd say let her bring him.
@ Dancy- It's a little too late for me to not bad mouth him, we've made it abundantly clear to her that we do not like him after he cheated on her. They have been broken up for a year and a half and she has said she will never get back with him because she can't trust him.
@ monitajb- I understand that women don't like going to weddings alone, which is why we allowed her a plus one. It was my understanding that she would not bring him given our feelings and would bring a friend. I do not really want to have to watch them (or have someone else) watch the all night to make sure they behave themselves.
@ Ms.Sassy- as far as the meeting the date thing, I simply meant that if she were to be bringing a guy, it would have been nice to meet him. Seeing as our wedding isn't that big and aren't even inviting all of the people we want to be there, it would be nice if the guy she brought wasn't a complete stranger. I had assumed that when giving the bridal party a +1 option they would perhaps think that if they aren't seeing anyone 3 weeks out from the wedding, it is probably not appropriate to bring a guest. I would have no problem with her bringing a friend, seeing as she is my best friend, I know most friends she has and it wouldn't be a complete stranger.
@lkbphmd- She will be coming from out of town and I assumed any guest she brings will be at the rehearsal/dinner and stick around for pics after the ceremony. So he would be around for a good portion of the day. I realize the reasoning she doesn't want to be alone, but I don't feel the situation can have any good results...the ex was the guy she thought she was going to marry and I feel that given the fact that they got together just a few months before my FI and me that she will resent him for the fact that he screwed up and those feelings will be amplified at the wedding.
@Tanya- Everytime these two get in the same room there is some sort of fight, which usually escalates to physical (pushing, shouting in each other's faces, etc) there is name calling, they don't really try to hide it or take it outside, they are heat of the moment and don't care where they are at, or she ends up crying. I wish I were exaggerating but they sometimes cannot even get through a phone conversation without screaming at each other. This is what I mean when I say drama.
Ahh you know, I might change my mind. Could you explain to her what you just posted? Perhaps she doesn't realize how bad it looks to others. I do think you have a right to have your wedding drama free. If they get into a brawl the majority of the time they're together, I would just let her know that you don't want him there because you don't want to have a scene, and certainly don't want to see her getting hit/pushed around (at your wedding or) ever.
u are NOT wrong. who wants to risk that kind of soap opera drama at their wedding?! that is RIDICULOUS!!! my MOH and a couple of BM's have ex/current bf drama and they dont even want to think about bringing them, cuz they want to have a good time and be there to support me!
it's about YOu that day, not who she can bring as a guest on your dime!
You're not wrong--she knows he's drama, you know he's drama, it sounds to me like the wedding was getting close, she still didn't have a date, and she resorted to asking him out of a deep desire not to be there alone. Not ok. That day is about you. And the only thing that your bridal party is really responsible for is making sure that you are happy, fed, and kept far away from any drama or mishaps on the day of your wedding--if a member of your bridal party is BRINGING drama or mishaps...that's a problem! If you explain to her what you have explained to us, in as loving a way as possible, she should understand. If she doesn't, she might not be as wonderful of a friend as you would like her to be.... ((HUGS)) and I'm sorry you're dealing with this!
I agree with mrsmdphd 100%. While I totally understand that your MOH doesn't want to be "alone" at your wedding- out of respect for you and your FI, she should KNOW not to bring him without you even having to tell her. You don't need a Jerry Springer type scene at your wedding. Given their volatile history, I don't blame you for not wanting him there.
To be honest, I think you're right and wrong. I think you were wrong in how you approached her about bringing him, but right in the fact that it's a lot of unnecessary drama on a day that's supposed to be all about celebrating. On that note, it sounds really weird to me that you allowed your BMs +1, but you expected certain restrictions to come along with it (you had to meet them, if they weren't dating more than 3 weeks they couldn't come, etc.). I'm having a fairly small wedding, and 1 of my BMs is bringing her ex (who no one likes, including my FI), but it's her choice. She's an adult, if she wants to bring her ex, that's fine, but she should also know that if he starts acting up (fighting, getting way too drunk, etc) he will be asked to leave.
As for the requiring them to bring someone you know or have met, several of my very near and dear friends are bringing dates I've never met to our wedding, and I have no problem with it! Weddings are awkward and depressing to attend alone (I know, I've done it), so if it makes them more comfortable and more likely to have a good time if they bring a guest than the more the merrier! You can't dole out +1 and expect that they all adhere to your guidelines on who they invite, if that's what you wanted you shouldn't have allowed them to bring guests.
@ Tanya- My FI told me that he will handle it, he decided to send her an e-mail that basically put everything I said and felt into nice terms. He sent it because I was ready to allow the ex to come with the exception that if there was any drama he would be out. FI said absolutely not. He said he would take the heat from her for this decision.
@missjyc, mrsmdphd, and monkeygirl- Thank you so much those were exactly my thoughts.
@Sarafoxy- I agree that maybe I should not have had restrictions on her date, I never really said to her, I have to meet your date, but I have gently asked her over the past few months who she is bringing. I felt that given that our guest count is due in this week and that our RSVP cards were due in last week that when I asked her yesterday, I had assumed she had decided to come alone because she has had months to find someone to bring with her. I felt that when I asked her, she was scrambling to figure out someone to bring just to not be alone, (which I agree, attending a wedding alone is awkward) when in reality she should have talked to someone before the RSVP cards were due.
What I don't understand is why is she so insistant on bringing someone in the first place? I understand that most people don't like attending weddings alone, but she's your MOH, not just a regular guest! ALL of her attention should be on you guys and making sure everything's going well for YOU! Sure, if she was dating someone, it would be nice to have them there for slow dances and stuff, but I'm sure she could convince a groomsmen to dance with her at least once. She's not going to have time to pay attention to any guest she brings anyway and if they're not also friends with some of your other guests, they are going to be bored. She should just go alone.
If she's your MOH she's not going to have drama on your wedding day. I think you're wrong for having so little faith in your friend and her abilities to be a good friend to you on your wedding day. If she feels more comfortable with him there (because they have history) I think you should let her bring who she wants.
I completely understand your frustration. My mom's BF is awful, the whole family can't stand him, and after two years of putting up with his antics, I finally became vocal about it with my mom, so she's fully aware of how I feel, and how awful he's been (surprisingly, they're still together). I really didn't want him to come to our wedding ... at all. But I knew I had to invite him because he's dating my mom. He often gets drunk at family occasions, makes a scene and then leaves dramatically. It's THAT bad.
BUT, that said, he came, and I didn't even notice he was there. I told my mom that if he did anything at the wedding, it was on HER shoulders, and yes, I would be mad. She understood, and all was fine.
Moral of the story? You most likely won't even notice "problem" guests because you're too busy with everything else.
NORMALLY, I'd say she should bring him...that you won't even notice drama from others on your wedding...but PUSHING & SHOUTING? um, NO...not allowed!
Hmm...I voted before I read the rest of your posts about how they get into heated discussions in the middle of everything and don't take them outside. My first thought was that you put plus 1 on her invite, and she should be able to bring someone who will help her have a great time, but this guy sounds disruptive. They're going to take the spotlight away from your day and make it about the drama they like to bring wherever they go, so I change my vote to, you were right. Sorry about that.
I'm glad your FI sent her the email with everything you said. Maybe coming from him, it will make her see what a bad idea this was. Keep us updated on how things go, and how she reacts to the email.
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Here's the situation: My MOH hasn't been seeing anyone, we are allowing her to bring a date to the wedding but RSVPs were due back Friday and she still hasn't asked anyone, so I assumed she would just come alone. I talked to her today about it and she said she would get on it and ask her ex (whom she is still friends with but has drama with regularly) to come. I told her that FI is not comfortable with this guy coming to the wedding, as he knows their history and that there is potential for bad juju to happen. So I told her this and she is furious. She said she doesn't want to come alone and this is totally out of the blue. I told her that I figured she would have known by now if she was bringing a date and that FI and I would have liked to meet said date so it's not a complete stranger invited to the wedding. She doesn't get this and went off on me for not allowing her ex to come with her. What I want to know is am I wrong for not wanting her ex to come to the wedding? Please help bees!
ETA: She did tell us that she would never disrespect us by bringing her ex to our wedding given the general amount of dislike (he cheated, tried to fix things, cheated again so on and so forth)...so this is why this came as such a suprise to me.