Post # 1
Fiance and I live in a two family flat – we’re in the upstairs unit, and have been here about 16 months. After living with no one below us for a long time (the downstairs resident moved out about two weeks after we moved in), in May a girl moved in downstairs. She and her boyfriend are the same age as Fiance and I, so when she threw a birthday party for her boyfriend, we came down and it was a good time. Since then, things have gone a little south.
We share a detached garage that faces an alley, and she leaves the door open all the time. She (or one of her guests, we aren’t sure), has been stealing the tomatoes off my tomato plants all summer – even after we left a nice note saying “please leave the tomatoes alone”. Her boyfriend (who isn’t a resident) would smoke pot on the back porch, which somehow made our bedroom (right above their porch) smell like pot. He’d also sit on the front porch smoking cigarettes and leave the butts all over the place. And NOW the girl has a dog. A dog that barks and wines. ALL. THE. TIME. It’s so annoying. The worst part? Our landlord has a strict no-pets policy. We’re actually not sure if it’s her dog or not because it’s not around all the time – but it’s here a lot. And when it’s here, it barks and whines.
Obviously Fiance and I aren’t this girl’s biggest fan. What should we do? We rent from a guy – it’s actually his (elderly) mom’s property, he just manages it for her – it’s not like we have a leasing office that we can notify anonymously. Our landlord really likes us, so I don’t want us to seem like we’re starting trouble, but it’s obnoxious! As far as we’re aware, she’s not breaking any laws (besides her boyfriend smoking the pot), and she hasn’t responded well to (nice, not at all passive-agressive) notes (about the cigarette butts) well. We’re never really home at the same time except for late evenings and early mornings, either. Fiance is about ready to walk downstairs and say something to her, but I don’t think that would be good. Ugh!
Post # 3
If your Fiance wants to go downstairs, I think that’s actually the best first step (if notes didn’t work). If he is really polite and just says “Hey, we were wondering if it would be possible for you guys to find another area to smoke, as the smoke is coming in our house a lot.” Notes are easy to ignore, and can come across as passive aggressive even if you don’t mean them to be. If you go down and ask nicely if there’s any way to remedy the problem (and in fact let them know specifically that there’s problem), you’re trying to solve the issue between the two of you without getting anyone else involved.
If you’re really opposed to him talking to her, I would honestly just call the landlord and let him know there are a number of issues that are causing you guys some trouble, and you can say you didn’t feel comfortable addressing her about them face to face because you weren’t sure how she’d handle it. Part of the landlord’s job is to make sure you can live in peace in your own apartment. If there’s a no pets policy and that was something that made you want to live there, it’s something you can fairly bring up.
The smoking is super annoying (I used to live in a 6 plex where 4 of the 5 other apartments had pot smokers), but that’s one of those things that unless it’s meant to be a no-smoking complex, he probably won’t do anything about that. They have the right to smoke on the front porch (assuming it’s their space, not shared? That wasn’t clear), and while it totally sucks that it’s going in your room, they may not be willing to go elsewhere. Annoying neighbours are super lame.
Post # 4
notes are in fact a bit passive agressive in my opinion. You guys should address them face to face – it’s the mature thing to do.
Post # 5
I for one think that notes are not passive-aggresive, esp. considering that you guys aren’t home at the same time. Personally if I was doing something that bothered a neighbor I would rather read a note about it when I got home in the afternoon then try to deal with it early in the morning or at night, that would feel much more confrontational to me. I would just contact your property manager and explain what’s going on. Your post describes the problems without being dramatic really well, I would say basically the same thing to him. Most leases have some kind of policy about where on the property you can smoke, if it’s allowed at all.
Post # 6
I think it’s time to call the landlord. You’ve asked them (via notes) to stop.
I feel your pain with the smoking. We used to have a lovely balcony where we could sit out and enjoy a nice summer evening… until the new guy downstairs moved in and his entourage of club bunnies are outside on *his* balcony smoking at all hours of the day and night. We can’t even have the windows on that side of the apartment open anymore or our living room and spare room get full of their cigarette smoke. Unfortunately there’s nothing we can do. :/
Post # 7
Definitely call the landlord. The dog and the pot are big issues. What if a police officer comes by and notices a smell of pot? This could cause problems. You knew about this and failed to tell the landlord, who might be pissed off about this. It’s your responsibility to inform the landlord of any illegal activities or breach of the lease.
Post # 8
I would talk to them face to face about the smoke. Tell them it comes into your house and you do not like the smell. After a week, if they don’t stop, tell the landlord about it.
When the dog is whiny/barking, call your local police. Officers should come to your house to write a report and contact your landlord. Also, where does this dog do it’s business? I am assuming you must have dog waste on the property, something the landlord could easily address.
If you really do not want to get on your neighbors’ bad side (which is understandable), you could tell your landlord about what has been going on and have him send a letter to “All Tenants” about the cigarette butts and the noise complaints of a dog and reminding you all of the rules. Of course, you would know who he is referring to, but that way the neighbor would not know you were the one to tip him off.