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  • poll: New Exchange Student, Old Exchange Student or TWO Students?
    Everything As-Is: Keep the current student until June and deal with the surrounding issues. : (6 votes)
    11 %
    Add the second student, remain firm in the rules of the house, be prepared to enforce them. : (34 votes)
    61 %
    Replace the current student with a new student and give it another chance. : (13 votes)
    23 %
    Other - Explain Below : (3 votes)
    5 %
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    Ah, the ongoing saga of my exchange student issues!  I have a "what would you do" sort of dilemma - and I'd love some opinions.  Many of you read my two previous posts about our issues with our current foreign exchange student (you can read more here and here).  As of this weekend, we have additional information and also a new option.

    On Saturday, our student was home for the first time for an entire day in over a month.  I worked with him to have his room cleaned up, his bathroom cleaned and his sheets washed (FINALLY).  At the end of our chat, he told us that at the end of June, he is going back to his home country for the summer.  

    Then this morning, Homestay contacted us and left a voicemail stating that new students are in fact coming in March to begin Spring semester at the local college. The new students are the same nationality and gender as our current student.  In the message, we were told we could in fact get a new student next month - either in addition to the current one or in replacement of.

    If we had BOTH students, this would be HUGE financially.  The increase in income would be $1250 a month above what we make on my unemployment and my husband's salary.  This actually puts us back to pre-layoff net income levels.  It would allow us to make some serious progress on our debt over the course of four months.  

    So our options are listed above.  What would you do and why?

     
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    Lindsay12.31.2010    December 31, 2010   Missouri

    Part of me says to just keep your current student, and end things in June as planned.

    But the other part of me would really want the money.  LOL. 

     
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    crayfish    September 11, 2010   Berkeley, CA

    If you can handle it, why not have both?

     
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    Krises       NYC

    Maybe having the 2nd student (of the same nationality and gender) would help your first student adjust a bit more? Assuming you have room for both of them, I can't see the situation getting any worse by adding another student, but it could probably get a lot better.  Alternatively, I'd replace the student. You have certainly given him more than a fair shake at making the arrangement work.

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    @Krises: We do have the space.  The students would each have a furnished bedroom and share a single bathroom between them.

     
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    crh1729    April 7, 2012   Wilson NC

    Wow, I say get both! But the money is what is deciding for me haha.

    How is the situation with the old one?

    Good luck!

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    @crh1729:  Basically the same. Refuses to actually talk with us about anything - key example, the drain in his bathtub was plugging up and he didn't say anything. When I stood in the bathroom explaining again how to clean it (third time he was shown) he goes "OH!" and shows me the tub full of dirt, hair and residual gunk from having a slow drain.  When I asked him how long it had been going on - two weeks.  AGAIN I say you have GOT to tell us whenever there is an issue! When we talked two weeks ago, I specifically said to him "you need to tell us if you need something, such as being out of toilet paper" because we at that point knew for a fact that he was out. He said nothing, so I waited.  So while we were cleaning, I said "are you out of this?" and he lied to me and said he ran out the day before.  I have NO IDEA why this kid refuses to bring up issues or talk to us about things.  I'm kind to him and so is my husband.

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    I voted Other.

    I would replace the current student (you have given him way more than enough chances and he doesn't deserve your generosity, kindness, and welcoming home any longer).  Then I would get TWO new students in March for the new semester.  So you still get the additional income but can get rid of the student that doesn't respect you and isn't thankful for the kindness and welcome you've shown him.

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    @Mrs.KMM: Boy do I feel silly.  I honestly didn't even consider this.  I may very well ask if this is an option for us.  

     
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    Entangled    September 17, 2011   Carmel, CA

    @Mrs.KMM:  This is a great idea.

    I agree with a lot of other commenters that it seems like you've put forth every effort for this guy and he is just spoiled and ungrateful.

     
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    daydreamwanderer       DC

    @Mrs.KMM: Oooh! I didn't think of this, but I like it as an option.

    I think having two students might be good, whether one of them is this current guy or not. If he's afraid of controntation or whatever, it might help to have two of them so that they can help each other communicate with you, you know?

    Question: How long will the new students be staying? Will you ask them to leave in June, even if they're staying to study longer, or will you consider keeping them/one on past then, even with TTC?

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    @daydreamwanderer: As for the TTC part, I think I did a poor job of explaining where we are with that.  In my other post, what I was trying to say is that the earliest we would get a new student would most likely be in the fall - and if we began TTC in the fall (which we have been discussing) and I got pregnant immediately, we would be asking that student to leave before June 2012 (i.e. about the point where I would be 6-8 months pregnant.)  I didn't feel right about taking a new student under that possibility.

    That being said, my husband and I are working through some personal issues at the moment.  I've talked before about his depression (a totally new issue post-wedding, one I had no idea we would be dealing with) and he is in treatment for that.  We are also seeing a counselor together to work on things.  I'm 100% supportive of him getting to a healthy and happy place before we TTC.  So until we are ready, we will be holding off.

     
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    caszos    June 2010   Florida

    I like the idea of getting 2 new students.  Maybe it will be a completely new situation and could it really be any worse then who you have now?

     
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    @christalynn11: okay, that makes sense. If you've got a year+ to host, I think it'd be a great idea! Two can't be much more work than one, if they're as indepedent as this guy sounds.

     
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    mightywombat    June 25, 2011   Massachusetts

    @Mrs.KMM:

    This is a great idea. My concern with keeping the 1st student and taking on a 2nd, if they're both the same gender and same nationality, is that the new student would learn from the old one that this behavior is normal/acceptable. Then you'd have two PITAs under your roof rather than one, which would probably not be worth any amount of money.

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    Update Ladies!

    So that was fast!  Homestay has another student arriving March 18th and will place him with us as a second student.  We will be keeping our current student and adding the second, knowing our current student is leaving in June.  

    They don't currently have two students to place at the same time.  We have one issue against us (our dog) so it's hard to find students that are A-OK with a big pooch.  Also, many don't want to live with another student of the same nationality.  This one is cool with both!

    Hello $1250.  Let just hope that doesn't also mean 'hello, drama!'

     
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    MissSawyer    September 1, 2012   Toronto, Ontario

    Best of luck with the new arrangement!

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    You are one brave lady. I'm not sure I could do it. I would have kicked that first guy out on his keister ages ago! Like a PP said, I'd worry that the new guy would take cues from your current student, or that they two of them would sort of thrive off having someone of the same culture there and make even less effort to learn from you. 

    I hope we're all wrong though and it goes really well! Maybe the new student will be really excited and kick the old student into gear!

     
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    @christalynn11: Wow, glad they could place someone so quickly!

    Have you and your husband ever thought about writing out a list of "house rules" (basic stuff, like tell us when you run out of toilet paper, etc.) and giving it to each student who lives with you? Maybe having everything in writing would be a clear way to set the tone and have something standard to refer back to if things go awry.

     
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    MissTatas    August 6, 2011   Minneapolis, MN

    Good luck!

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    @bakerella:  I have this concern too.  However, I've really grown to believe that this is a personal issue with the student, not a culture issue.  The new student will also be considerably younger - he expressed the desire in his application to live with a family who wants to include him in their lives.  If all else fails, we have the option now of having our current student leave at any time.  The homestay company knows I'm not pleased with how things have gone and she offered to move him for me before June.

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    @daydreamwanderer:  I'm actually writing house rules this afternoon, knowing this is something we really should have been more clear about with our current student.  I really feel like in the beginning, I was a little bit desperate for acceptance and income - this time around, I don't need to be walked on and won't let myself be.

     
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    @christalynn11: Hooray for demanding respect :D

    I hope this goes better, and that we get to hear some great experience stories soon!

     
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    jaylovessteez    September 19, 2010   CA

    I didnt read your other posts.. but if this student your currently have is a problem.

    I'm worried he will make the new student a problem for you too.. I agree with the others maybe get two new ones.

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    UPDATE!

    Our second student will be arriving on the 18th - and when he gets here, our current student will be away for spring break.  I'm looking forward to having a few days with our new student to get to know him a bit and lay down some serious ground rules.  I also hope this will mean they don't get too close and new student doesn't pick up current student's habits.  

    Current student is only here through the end of June and isn't moving back to the Seattle area in fall, so I plan to encourage new stuent to make his own friends and do his own thing, since any friendship with our current student will end in a few months.

    I do feel like I'm counting down the days until then however!  So tired of running Hotel Christa!

     
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    bakerella    September 11, 2010   Toronto, ON

    @christalynn11: The timing of that sounds great. You have endured SO much through this!!! I hope this second student works out far better for you and doesn't make fast friends with student #1. Keep us updated!

     
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    christalynn11    October 22, 2010   Arlington, WA

    @bakerella: Thank you!

    I've been working and re-working rules for the house for a week now.  The biggest two is that our current student is an 'adult' and stays out unitl whatever time in his car - the new student will not have a car.  Current student is now to be home no later than 11 pm on school nights and midnight on weekends - or he is to not come home at all. He will literally roll in at three or four am on weekends - and I can't continue to have that now that this student will need to follow the same rules.

    The other rule is that they are supposed to be here to learn English and get an education - so in order to practice English, they are not to be speaking to each other in the house using their native language.  It's one thing to translate for each other, it's another to be sitting at my dinner table having an A + B conversation while C - my husband and I - are right there with them.  Nothing would upset me more than to constantly feel left out of a conversation in my own home.

     

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