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    FutureMrsRugbee    January 14, 2012   Montreal, Quebec

    So I just started L1, I'm getting married in 3 months and I think I've taken on way more than I should have. I have exams all of next week and guess what I spent yesterday doing: Making invitations!

    I  was all about the DIY last year when I was finishing up my undergrad. I figured it'd be fine! I'll get everything done in the summer. Oh boy...

    This was a terrible idea... word of advice: DO NOT PLAN A DIY WEDDING WHILE IN LAW SCHOOL!!

     
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    JD193    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    BREATHE!!  I am a 3L so I remember the panic of 1L quite well - without planning a wedding (which I'm doing this year).  But, I have a good friend who got married during her 1L and took a full week off to do it, and she was fine - got amazing grades that semester.  Would I recommend getting married during 1L?  No - but, you can handle it and everything will work out fine.  Remember, law school is important, but LIFE is more important - you will not remember what you got on your midterms in 20 years but you will remember your wedding.  Also, I don't know what school you go to but at most law schools, midterms only count for 10-20% of your grade and are really just intended as practice for finals.  So don't stress!!  Let yourself enjoy wedding planning!

     
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    FutureMrsRugbee    January 14, 2012   Montreal, Quebec

    Mine are 25-30% depending but everything is strictly bellcurved to the point where 5 people failed our Intro to Law exam but had marks above passing. Luckily our teacher manually adjusted the grades because that would be ridiculous!! I was also a bit rattled by my family law exam on thursday where everyone left the room with absolutely different but reasonable sounding answers.

    Thanks for the shout out JD193. Ouff.. back to History of Civil Law for me :S 

     
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    NDBee    March 10, 2012  

    @JD193: Ditto to all of this! Too many people make law school/their legal career their life. If that's what you're going for, then great, but most people just lose their view on what they wanted. Make time to focus on your friends and family, and think of what will be important when you look back.

    @FutureMrsRugbee: You can totally do this. 1L is really stressful, but you'll make it through. Just be strict with yourself about balancing your time. (ie- Read this chaper, study for x hours, then take a 1hour break for DIYs or vendor follow-ups, etc). Wedding planning is stressful, law school is stressful, but I know that you can manage both. Just be realistic in your goals and allocate your time the best that you can. Best of luck on midterms!

    *goes back to my EP midterm...grrrr*

     
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    MrsCoachBtoBee    June 9, 2012   Alabama

    @FutureMrsRugbee:  I hear ya!!!  I am waiting until I get done with the bar and everything to actually get married.  I will have about 3 full months before the wedding to do stuff and try to find a job.  I actually chose classes without midterms after 1L year.  We had required classes for 1L year.  I agree with PP who say don't make it your life.  You can work your rear end off and have no life other than law school but once you get that first job, nobody really cares if you won some competition.

    Good luck on your midterms!  You will do great.  I always make a schedule so that I can study and do other things I might need to do.

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    Midterms, wow.  Lucky.  I just had a final exam for my law school classes (or a paper in some 2L or 3L classes).  100% of a grade riding on 4 hours - fun, fond memories.  My biggest advice is to PRACTICE.  Take as many practice exams by your professor that are publicly available (and by another prof at your school in the same subject if not).  That will really help you to issue spot and nail the answers.

    Set timers.  Allow yourself to do wedding work only as breaks or rewards for completed work. You have enough time 1L year to do both if you manage your time wisely.

    I do disagree with advice that life matters more and is somehow separate from law school exams.  Law school grades are SO crucial in the fall for landing a position for 2L summer and for getting on journals.  I don't mean to scare you, that's not my intent, but your 1L grades matter more than your 3L grades do, so please don't blow off studying.  (Don't panic, but don't ignore them.  Balance is key.)  And law school perfermance does affect your life - getting the job that you want and being satisfied and happy with your career.  Yes, you can make up for it later, but it's easier to do it right from the start than to play catch up.

     
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    JD193    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    I absolutely let myself have a life 1L year, because I do view my "life" - i.e. family friends, personal happiness over my career.  Yet, somehow, I still managed to land in the top third of my class, on a journal (which I am now an editor of), and on the mock trial board.  Oh, and I landed my first job choice both summers, and have a permanent job lined up at my first choice of firm, in the city that I want to be in.  You DON'T have to sacrifice the rest of your life to end up happy with your career.

     
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    MrsCoachBtoBee    June 9, 2012   Alabama

    @JD193:  I second this!  I an on a law review journal, top 1/3 of my class and have worked with one of the best firms in my area the past two summers.  I don't have a permanent job yet but I am working on that! 

     
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    NDBee    March 10, 2012  

    @kay01: It is true that 1L grades are important, but burnout is a serious issue with many 1Ls. Studying forever reaches a point of not being helpful, or even detrimental. And there is a work/life balance that needs to be achieved, and I feel that the practice should start in school. I've seen classmates who wouldn't take a half hour break to have lunch with their parents (after those parents had driven over 90 miles to see their student) because they were outlining. 

    OP- While I've always felt grades are imporant and you need to work for them and make them a priority, they should be a priority, not the only priority. You can make it work, you just need to be realistic and set goals that relate to your chosen priorities. I've balanced my dedication to school (and done well) while still continuing to build a solid foundation with my FI, maintaining my relationships with friends and family, and planning our rather large wedding. It can be stressful, but it can be done.

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    @NDBee: Right, I absolutely agree - that's why I wrote "balance is key" and suggested setting timers or giving "rewards" for accomplishing specific goals.  I also said "You have enough time 1L year to do both if you manage your time wisely."  It's a little frustrating that it seems the only thing folks (not just you) took from my email was to study-study-study.  I just wanted to provide a countervailing point to those saying they don't matter and to focus on life.  It IS a part of life is all I was trying to say (not that it is the ONLY thing in life).  I absolutely agree with you: "they should be a priority, not the only priority. You can make it work, you just need to be realistic and set goals that relate to your chosen priorities."  I think the main trap for law students is either too many priorities (you do have to pick & choose) or nothing but studying and you burn out.

     
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    NDBee    March 10, 2012  

    @kay01: I agree, and I see the points you raised about balance. I was just trying to add to those, and to counter that I do think that law school and life are separate things that both need a student's attention. I hope that my first post didn't seem to advocate slacking off, just using wedding stuff as reward (like you'd mentioned).

    I think the hardest thing for law students to accept is that you no longer can do everything marvelously (like most 1Ls are used to in undergrad). You're going to have to pick and choose and learn to be ok with not being perfect. That's the huge mental hurdle for many, IMO. 

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    I got married as a 3L... it was tough, but not as tough as it would have been if I were already working as a lawyer! Bees in law school, good luck!! With your weddings and your studies. :)

     
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    JD193    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @kay01 - the problem is that you are strongly implying that we are wrong and that we advocated slacking off.  You specifically say "I just wanted to provide a countervailing point to those saying they don't matter and to focus on life."  At what point did any of us say, Oh, law school doesn't matter, blow them off and spend hours dyi'ing table numbers.  We didn't!  We all said before you that law school IS IMPORTANT, but so is life.  I think very few people go into law school being like, no big deal, I don't have to work very hard at this.  But your post to me sounded pretty one-sided on the study-study-study side - only allowing wedding stuff as a "break" from law school?  That to me IS indicating that law school should be your life and you should only take small breaks from it once in a while - that doesn't indicate balance to me.

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    @JD193: You yourself wrote: "You will not remember what you got on your midterms in 20 years but you will remember your wedding  --> If you do poorly you will remember.  Do I remember the classes I got an A- versus an A?  No, but my friends with Cs do remember those classes!  The comments regarding breaks was because the OP indicated she was having an issue balancing things and focusing on studying (and had spent the whole day previously on wedding work), so if she sets timers, or bribes herself with rewards, whatever works best for her personally - everyone varies, then she'll be able to improve her focus on classes.  She didn't seem to need advice on how to relax and avoid burnout.  I shared my perspective because I've seen people who have not done as well in their career (and are unhappy) because they didn't try hard 1L year and blew it off - and this at top law schools.

    The post should be taken as a whole (where multiple times I mention things about balance).  Pulling out isolated comments will give a distorted view.  In any event, it now sounds more like we are reaching a happy medium where we agree they are fairly important but not everything. 

    I forget the exact quote, but there's one about how you can do some things well, or all things ok, but you can't do all things well.  (Terrible paraphrasing)

     
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    JD193    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @kay01 - Okay, I really think we just approach school very differently and have different life priorities.  Which is FINE! That's your choice, this has been mine.

    The moral of the story, @FutureMrsRugbee is that you have to find the balance that's right for YOU!

     
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    spaniel    March 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Hm. Looks like I should have read the whole thread before I posted any good luck wishes. Perhaps I can distract you all with a lawyer joke.

    Any law school bees? Ahhhh Midterms :  wedding diy law school midterms school exam invitations Tumblr Kp3gnoHNeL1qzxyrjo1 400

     
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    FutureMrsRugbee    January 14, 2012   Montreal, Quebec

    @spaniel: Ahh! Lawyer cat!!  My FI has been texting me a host of these since I started in august.

     @JD193:@kay01: I get what both of you are saying and agree that you have two very different approaches to school. At the end of it though I think you're both talking about the same level of commitment with different wording. Whether you say outloud that LS is your #1 or not, you have to put in a substancial amount of work to succeed. It really depends how you interpret "having a life". My non-law friends think I have no life... but I still spend every morning with my FI and cook family dinners every night. I might even get to binge drink durring reading week (in a couple of days!)

    Don't worry about me guys! I'm pretty organized: It's all under control!! I just wish I had had a bit more foresight about the pace of school before I set all my  wedding goals.

     
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    Rubies    August 17, 2013   New York, NY

    I'm a 2L, I'm planning a wedding and I have to say that you should probably enlist your FI to basically do all wedding related stuff around mid November. Make finals your number 1 priority, sacrafice all others for those 6-8 weeks. Cut yourself slack though the rest of the time, keep up with your reading, but don't loose your head. 

    My Stats (FWIW): Top 10%, Law Review...I had no life during 1L year and I don't regret it at all.  

     

     
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    FutureMrsRugbee    January 14, 2012   Montreal, Quebec

    Update: 1 to go! *sings*We're going to make it after all!

     
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    Rubies    August 17, 2013   New York, NY

    @FutureMrsRugbee: Yeah!!!! Keep on kicking ass. Really, taking the exam is half the battle.

     
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    kay01    May 27, 2012   NH/VT

    Taking the last exam is always so nice!  A belated piece of advice: no post mortem!  Do NOT discuss the exams.  You will only drive yourself crazy.  The worst was when I saw people doing that on the *bar exam* before it was even over (way to psych themselves out) - avoid those people like the plague.  And you can do really well even if you thought you did terribly - sometimes that means you caught all of the complexities and really understood it.

     
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    lawschool bride    August 13, 2011  

    Yay for almost being done! You'll be ok! I'm a 3L and got married this summer and I'm doing just fine. I agree with getting your FI to help as much as you can.  I also had no life 1L year, and that came with tons of break downs, so maybe it is better to take some time away from the books.  Btw, I got engaged last december and my wedding was in august, so alll my planning fell between spring and summer  I got my best grades in my law school career in the spring, so I don't think planning a wedding will kill your grades.  Though I did less than stellar in my summer classes, but there were a lot of other reasons for that, and the important part was that I passed!

    I would just delegate as much as you can to other people (something I was really bad at), and then have a strict schedule.  I personally planned probably 90% of the weedding over all my breaks (spring, easter, and the 2 weeks before and after the summer semester), and the rest on the weekends. Put some weekends aside just for wedding stuff like a month out before finals, do everything you can then, and then leave everything else until after finals. Its better to have last minute wedding projects than last minute cramming.  You'll be just fine! Good luck!

     
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    pinkfrog    October 20, 2012   South Jersey

    I knew a couple people who got married in the month right after the bar exam (and in our area, everyone takes 2- NJ, and either PA or NY).  I figured they were out of their minds, and I stand by that, but they all did pass.

    It's a tough split. I wouldn't have wanted to do it- 1L was a rough year for me for a lot of reasons, and I couldn't have handled this and that.  But it can be done.  I knew lots of people in law school that got married/had kids (one girl was a week from her due date during 1L 2nd semester finals).

    Just breathe, take your exams one at a time, and when you're done, have a glass of wine. :)

     
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    FutureMrsRugbee    January 14, 2012   Montreal, Quebec

    <3 you law school/lawyer bees! Thanks for all the advice & success stories. All done now: time for a nice, easy reading week.

    @kay01: I post-mortemed so much this week! It made me feel absolutely terrible. Will avoid it at all costs when finals come.

     

     
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    Rubies    August 17, 2013   New York, NY

    @pinkfrog: Ah, I just saw this! I am getting married 2 weeks after the bar. There was no other time, FI is in school and I couldn't get married before the bar because...well, I am not that insane. I am glad they all passed! I am taking NY/NJ.

     
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    pinkfrog    October 20, 2012   South Jersey

    @Rubies: Delegate delegate delegate!  And good luck!!

     

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