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Unfortunately we are not in the planning phase bc FI has to make a move to my city and job switch before we can get civil unioned. However the LAST people I would expect to give criticism are the ones we love and care about, closest to us. That sucks, and Im sorry :(
@mtnhoney: oh god im so sorry about your bridesmaid!! how ridiculous. she shouldn't dictate what you can and cannot do. she should be standing up there for you because she supports you, regardless of what color dress you've requested that she wear!!
this statement is spot on:
"Weddings, by their very nature, are traditional! This is a cultural tradition, and no matter how you dissect or reinvent it, all weddings are going to have some basic elements to it."
i, too, like the traditional element of weddings. i like the formality, since it is a very important life event. just because you're gay and that is "different" doesn't mean that you have to run down the aisle in a tye dyed rainbow tuxedo.
people are insensitive :(
So sorry that's happening, and that one of your BMs dropped out (via text!). That is absolutely not cool. As you say, weddings ARE traditional -- if you ddn't want to be traditional, you wouldnn't be having one! I hope people stop with their hurtful comments...and I hope you and your FI enjoy the planning process.
She can't be who you want her to be? What kind of bs is that - you're not telling her who to be, you're asking her to please wear a certain dress you have picked out for one day. I would of lost my cool over that one. And it's really crappy people are making assumptions on your wedding based on your sexual orientation, I'm sorry =(
Sorry you're going through that >.<. I think a lot of people don't realize that no matter who a person is marrying, most of us (at least women, not sure about men) have grown up dreaming and planning how our weddings will be. Yeah you might not be a "traditional" couple, but that doesn't mean you can't have a traditional wedding. Try not to let people get to you. Whether you're straight or not, everyone has opinions that they want to give you when planning a wedding. Just stick to what you want and what represents you two as a couple and you will have a happy day that you will remember always. 
This is terrible. How can a friend drop out of a wedding for such a ridiculous reason? Who cares if you wanted her to wear a burlap sack? It's YOUR wedding & she is supposed to be supportive. Is it possible that she's just using that as an excuse & actually has a completely different reason for not wanting to be in the wedding? I would almost hope so, considering how childish her argument (not to mention method of communicating) is. Is she only your friend b/c you share a love of LoTR? Surely not. Why is she treating it like it's *her* wedding that you're planning?
As for the people who don't understand the traditional aspect, your comment about how weddings are a traditional concept to being with is PERFECT. If it's what you want, fantastic. Don't be afraid to say it! It's possible they're worried you're trying to please your more conservative relatives, perhaps? Either way, it's rude to say such things to a bride-to-be. It's your day & you're celebrating something wonderful. If someone doesn't feel like sharing in that, it's their loss! Don't accomodate them. Just keep your chin up & don't be afraid to speak your mind! 
remember its YOUR wedding! You get to choose how you want your wedding regardless! you are the one who has dreamt about a wedding all your life! it shouldnt matter weather its "traditional" or not and shouldnt have anything to do with who you are marrying. Ugh people make me so upset! they really just shouldnt voice there opinions so bluntly! its not there wedding! Ugh seriously. I am not in your same boat, but I know that I am already being told i HAVE to have a cake, soooooo I think I am having a friends mom make a FAKE CAKE. just for pictures, and to make people "happy" it will just be a prop! hahahahahah I AM NOT PAYING $900 for a damn cake!
I am so sorry you are going through this. On a side note, what the FRICK does your sexual orientation have to do with your wedding style?!
No one walks around saying to people, "Oh, that's a really great straight way to do it." <_<
@September29: LMAO @ the tie-dyed tux.
OP: I can't believe your BM dropped out of the wedding via text. You're right, that is tacky... and her reasoning is stupid, honestly. Who drops out of a wedding because they don't like the way the bride & groom are planning THEIR wedding? This is your day. All she has to do is stand there & be supportive of your union.
I hope that things get better for you. I don't understand why you're getting the raised eyebrow for having a traditional wedding... it never really crossed my mind that some people would find it odd for a homosexual couple to have a traditional ceremony.
@September29: just because you're gay and that is "different" doesn't mean that you have to run down the aisle in a tye dyed rainbow tuxedo.
This! When my FI's uncle heard we were getting married, he said, "Great, I'll bust out the tie-dye." Um, no.
People have commented that our wedding will be "quirky" or "out of the box" because we are a gay couple. In fact, we are planning a fairly traditional ceremony/reception. OP, you are not alone!
mtnhoney, if it makes you feel better, I once saw a little bit of an episode of Engaged and Underaged (yeah I know what you're thinking, it was an accident, I'd never support marriages that begin too young), and this episode featured a very traditional wedding that included every typical thing you'd imagine when you hear the word "wedding", even was officiated by a Catholic priest...and it was for a young lesbian couple. The audience had nothing but love and respect in their eyes for the two glowing brides in their absolutely beautiful (but white and traditional!) wedding gowns. It touched my heart in so many ways and is probably the only reason I liked that show a tiny bit.
Sorry that your bridesmaid doesn't seem to get the idea that a non-traditional relationship doesn't require a non-traditional wedding!
I'm planning a VERY traditional wedding. Like mega traditional. I have got a few comments.. but I'm pretty traditional as a person, besides being a big lady-lover lesbian. So I haven't got too many comments.
Keep your head high - your BM is being a bitch.
@September29: tie-dyed rainbow tux, LMFAO!!!!
thanks for the laughs this morning, ladies! my BM and I have come to a place of understanding, and I'm going to to forgive although I won't be able to forget the hurtful things she said, and the immature way she handled this. It's her, not me. Her issues with weddings and marriage in general, as well as personal stuff that I have nothing to do with. Why she chose to first attck my choices and our 'style' will forever baffle me. Sad.
I think I get too sensitive, like I WANT to be so alternative and non-comformist, because I am in a lot of ways in how I live my life. But, like so many have said, weddings are a tradition, and they follow a general structure, and I love ritual so we creating a ceremony and a party that best reflects us, and only including what has meaning to us. That's what important, right?
xoxoxoxo!!
@live laugh love: great idea! prop cake. yeah, i dont' understand the NEED for a cake, either. we love cupcakes, so we're going with those. and our friends are baking them for free. :)
We do live in a society where many people are extremely ignorant and naive when it comes to lifestyles that aren't "mainsteam." I think it's refreshing to hear that you are having a traditional wedding. Why should you have to give all that up simply because you are in love with a chick instead of a dude? I am heterosexual and therefore cannot completely understand what you're going through, but I do want to encourage you and give you props for doing what is right for you and your future wife!
That's crazy. It's not her wedding. Her role is to support the two of you. Not define what you are and what your wedding is. Maybe she's a control freak. Or maybe she's just not the good friend you think she is and she's trying to get you to cut the rope.
In my book, her battling with me would be grounds for immediate dismissal of friendship. I shit you not. Or at least I'd put her on the backburner of my life. But that's me. I'm ferocious.
Well I am straight but I think people who have those types of negative comments should be ashamed of themselves. Why shouldn't you be able to have the wedding of your dreams? It's almost like they expect you guys to down play your relationship just because it is not the cultural norm. People seriously need to grow up. Just because it is not right for you does not mean it's not right for someone else. I honestly do not care what people do with their lives or who they choose to be with as long as it is not physically hurting anyone else. Have the wedding of your dreams and don't worry about what other people think.
First off, this is not unique to lesbian weddings. Weddings often seem to bring out the drama in family and friends. It can be limited by limiting the people you talk to about your wedding plans. However, when it is a BM, and she's upset about the matching BM dresses, there really is nothing you can do, short of being happy you at least learned about it early enough in the process to be able to find someone else if you want.
Second, I think that in general, same-sex weddings tend to be more traditional than opposite-sex ones. Straight couples can ignore a lot of traditions, because the fact that they really are getting married is not going to be challenged by anyone. Same-sex couple often want to keep more of the traditions, to highlight the fact that this is a real wedding.
I'm sorry you're dealing with this. However, her comments are totally unfair.
She doesn't deserve to be one of your bridesmaids if that's how she's acting! I am so sorry you have to deal with this!
I don't think anyone can judge weddings anymore - there are so many options out there and to be honest, I would LOVE to attend your wedding - it sounds AWESOME!!!!!
Who cares if you have bridesmaids and flower girls - if that's what they care about instead of making sure you get all the help you need and stay happy, then they need to check themselves!
<3 Hope all goes well, dear!
@2dBride: I never thought about that - that we may try to be more traditional. It actually makes sense.
i guess I should write a follow up since this thread still has some life in it!
my friend and I talked it out, and made peace. It really was about HER issues with marriage and weddings in general (her being divorced) although she was projecting it as though it was because of MY choices. Which sucked, but she apologized, more than once, and I can forgive.
No, I won't forget the stupid things she said, but it would hurt me more to lose her as a friend, even a long distance one.
Although she did specifically make a comment about "why are you having a traditional wedding, even though you're lesbians"... I've come to realize that the other comments that have got my back up were because people think I'M non-traditional. not because I'm marrying a woman, but because I've always gone against the grain, been anti-mainstream, and done things atypically.
so, when I realized that- it made more sense and I came to the conclusion that it was my own insecurity causing me to be defensive. an AHA! moment, if you will.
thanks for all the support bees!! i'm happy to have my two besties still on board with me!
I think straight people think gay marriage = show. They'd like to see us dressed in purple and or funky coverse sneakers and matching rainbow rings with tapestry vests...at an eco-friendly dream catcher-making village.
Not that there is anything wrong with ^ those things - but it doesn't mean we cannot have a traditional wedding. I'm sorry mtnhoney that you have to hear that.
We've had the occassional "so why don't you wear a linen vest?" to my wife (we married in Iowa, officially, last October and live in MI). I'm wearing pink blush and am as girlie as they come. Our wedding is at a gay owned venue (two men) and its very classic and beautiful. I have three bridesmaids and my wife has two. She will wear a traditional black or navy suit and I'm wearing pink blush lace gown with full tulle or organza skirt and sparkly pink shoes I've dream of since I was little. The bridal party will be in dresses that are modest 50s and look like something from Roman Holiday, and the music etc. etc...is very traditional.
And so are we. The world has a long way to go, and its only through attending our weddings and seeing how much we love eachother ... and how long we've been together will they learn.
Enjoy your beautiful wedding and do it up!!!!
Lisa
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hi...
I'm going through some strange and hurtful stuff with this wedding planning process. I didn't know what I signed up for when I said yes!
I've had two people now be really critical of our wedding plans. Goes something like this:
"Why are you planning such a traditional wedding, even though you're lesbians?" or,
"wow, bridesmaids and flower girls? You're going really traditional hey? Weird."
Why can't queers have tradtional weddings, or incorporate traditional elements? Weddings, by their very nature, are traditional! This is a cultural tradition, and no matter how you dissect or reinvent it, all weddings are going to have some basic elements to it.
ok, maybe you don't need bridesmaids or flower girls, but having our friends up there with us is important to us, and flower girls are adorable, and actually hold ritual significance to me.
Yesterday one of my bridesmaids dropped out, saying our wedding was too traditional for her, and she can't understand why we want them to wear matching coloured dresses. I said they could choose their own style, but I wanted the same colour, for a visual aesthetic. And she's straight! to top it off, she told me by TEXT. i'm hurt and I think her approach is so tacky.
she's long distance so we're trying to resolve it over email, and it just sucks. She's saying stuff like "I thought you were the kind of person who would have an Elvin, Celtic handfasting- I don't recognize you in this, and I can't be who you want me to be." She hasn't even taken the time to find out- we are doing a Celtic ceremony, including a handfasting, and our attire is entirely Lord of the Rings, Elvin- inspired. WTF?
people's true colours come out in this process, hey? I never thought planning a wedding would be so emotional and stressful. Naive, I guess.
:(