Post # 1
An associate of mine is a manager at a large jewellery chain store near my workplace and we tend to spend more and more time together chatting.
What she has told me about the industry is really worrying.
1: They insure so they often have diamonds brought in for valuation. At least once a month, someone discovers that their stone has been replaced during a resize, clean or repair from smaller businesses.
2: She tells me this happens quite often in small businesses and to be careful as small businesses can rarely afford to sell at low prices compared to large chains stores that are able to bulk buy.
3: The man made diamonds are virtually indistiguishable from naturally occuring diamonds. The main indicator being clarity, cut and size versus price. In other words, a bargain often isnt. (not CZ’s, glass or moissy, actual diamond)
This is sooo depressing!!! How can you possibly know??? What if you got resize and the stone was swapped??? aargh its a mine field!!!
4: Why am over thinking this??
Post # 3
@undercoverjoan: I think getting a skilled jeweler with a good reputation will probably help ease your mind. I got a moissanite, so this isn’t something I worry about, but I’m sure it’s daunting.
Post # 4
FI’s mom used to work at Zales, and she told us never buy a diamond from us or any other chain. They are so overpriced and don’t have the higher quality stones. We went to a local jeweler (friend of FI’s family) and they are good honest people. It’s a family business and they have a great reputation.
Post # 5
@housebee: I LOVE diamonds but balk at the price of a quality sized number (when I think of what we could be spending the money on… dear lawd..)
Its whats driven me to other options and Im now thinking about longevity and the ring being passed onto grandkids, their kids etc etc so Id like something tough and special.
Moissy is absolutley gorgeous, the more I look at it, the more I like it. Im also swinging to the man made diamond – also very pricey – as its an actual diamond but just not naturally occuring.
Im doing my own head in here, I wish SO would just hurry the hell up and buy me something so I can forget about it lol!
Post # 6
@GeorgiaBride5: Thankyou, I think your right, stick to reputable businesses I guess, and never have it repaired anywhere else!
Post # 7
@undercoverjoan: I think lab diamonds and natural diamonds are somewhat comparable in cost. If you’re wanting something “traditional” to pass down, I would think a diamond would probably suit that role better. Wanting a moissanite is a very personal choice, and since a diamond is standard, it’s probably the better choice for an heirloom. This wasn’t an issue for me, since I’m never having kids. I knew I wanted a lab created stone, plus I love color, so moissy was a natural choice for me. However, moissanite is a very poor diamond simulant, so if you’re a diamond girl, you’ll probably be disappointed. There are definitely honest, trustworthy jewelers out there, you just have to do the research.
Post # 8
@housebee: you said: “I think lab diamonds and natural diamonds are somewhat comparable in cost. If you’re wanting something “traditional” to pass down, I would think a diamond would probably suit that role better…. a diamond is standard, it’s probably the better choice for an heirloom.”
@undercoverjoan: Buy a loupe, know your diamond. Go to a reputable jeweler.
Post # 9
@gemgirl6: “Buy a loupe, know your diamond. Go to a reputable jeweler.“
I think this is the best idea/advice. If you’re using a reputable jeweler, which you always should, you shouldn’t have to worry about your diamond being switched, though personally I would prefer to check, which is why once I have my engagement ring, I’ll be getting a loupe so I can see the imperfection my diamond has, as stated on the GIA report. When ever my engagement ring gets checked, cleaned or fixed I can check the center stone myself to confirm it is the same one.
Post # 10
I’m not worried because I go to a reputable jeweler who I trust. I used a local jeweler because their mark up is FARRRRR less than the large chains. You get shit quality for a super high price. Zales and Kay are infamous for superficially inflating their prices just so they can mark them down and make you feel like you’re getting a great deal, when really the “sale” price is the price you should be paying in the first place.
I alwyas thought lab created diamonds were more expensive (if not similar in price) to mined diamonds. I don’t understand what the point of switching it out would be? I alos thought lab diamonds were pretty rare and not used often for jewelry.
Post # 11
I did actually buy my ring and center stone from Kay (although on sale, of course, haha) but it is inscribed with a serial number so we would know if it were swapped out. That’s something to think about as well.
Post # 12
@loving_life: all Tiffany & Co. diamond rings are inscribed as well. Even with Tiffany I checked the laser inscribed number on the diamond when it came back from sizing.
I didn’t know Kay’s did that too. Nice!
Post # 13
@undercoverjoan: How long would it take to swap out a diamond? More than a few minutes, I’d think? Am I right about this?
If so, couldn’t you insist on taking it to a place that would repair/clean it as you wait?
Post # 14
@undercoverjoan: Myself went for a gia laser inscrip with both heirloom and ering.
I went to one place two engagements ago to get a ring sized (it was the cheapest location for sizing, ahem, F.L.A.G.!). I said to the “seasoned jeweler Pratico guy” at this place in central NJ “If you don’t mind, I’d like to wait for it to be resized and loop it afterwards.”
You know what he said? “No, if you don’t trust us, then I don’t want to size it for you.” I’m like, wtf?! I said “You’re saying you aren’t going to allow a basic loop visual right after you bring my ring back from your back-area workbench?!” He’s like, “if you don’t trust me, then I’m not doing the work.” I said, “BITCH.BOOM.BYE.ASSHOLE!” I made it a point to spread the word about his shady Pratico business. This was over a year ago. He’s out of buisiness now. lol. Fking asshole. Major point is, he also sold gemstone rings at $$$$. And I bet he swapped gemstones out of people’s rings.
Bottom line: please, please go to someone who has absolutely zero problem with looping/magnifying ANY stone!
Post # 15
My ring is from Zales. Retail price was $9999. FI bought it when there was a sale so he paid around $8500. Got it appraised for $9500. So I don’t know if it’s always true that chain stores have overpriced rings.