Post # 1
I am the mother of an incredible daugther that was married last September and has been ttc since her wedding day with no luck. A little history – she was never on bc but her periods were very irregular and not sure she even ovulated. By The Way she is 26 (27 in May). Knowing they both wanted desperately to conceive asap she went on prenatal vitamins in September. They began tracking her periods as soon as she was engaged – a year prior and they ranged from 24 days to 55 days. After no luck in September, October and November her GPMD agreed to have her see fertility specialist in December. He started her on Clomid in January with no positive ovulation (she is also taking preseed?)….he increased her to 100mg in February. He gave Provera again to get her started and AF arrived on March 1st. She received a positive ovulation (sorry I dont know all the abbreviations….lol)on March 17th. They apparently (we are close but not that close I was not there…lol – but she states) BDed every day 5 days prior to the positive test and the day of the positive test and the day after the positive test. Per MD instructions she has stayed in bed with feet up at least 20 minutes after each BD. She also noticed the mucuous discharge with ovulation – apparently she says she has never experienced or does not recall…..so I feel really good that she did ovulate (plus she had the pain)…..so here are my questions….Do you think she will conceive this month?
1. Did she do everything she was supposed to do? If not, suggestions?
2. What day should she be able to test?
3. What are the chances of multiples with clomid?
She is not only my daughter but my best friend and it breaks my heart each month to see her heartache – is there any comforting words you have received or things people have done that help with that heartache? I feel so helpless. I had problems conceiving her and took me 14 months so I know that pain all to well.
last question, once she is pregnant they want a second child immediately – what are the chances she will go through this again?
Also – a little more history – she is a non smoker, non drinker – eliminated cafeinee on her wedding day in anticipation of ttc – she is 5’4 and weighs appx 110
Thank you all so much – and I pray if you are wanting a child your dreams come true.
btw – my wedding day was 2/11/84 (not 94 like it says).
Post # 3
@wowweddings20000: Well I will answer some of your questions.
1. She has only been trying since September? I am very surprised they put her on Clomid so soon. I have been trying for 9 months and we have gone through quite a few tests and still have to wait another couple cycles before starting Clomid.
2. Has she had any testing done. The first step for us was a round of blood tests for me to check my hormones/ thyroid/etc, then my Darling Husband had a SA (Semen analysis) done, then at the start of this cycle (9th) I had a HSG done to make sure my tubes were clear. (Thankfully they are both clear).
3. Preseed is a lubricant. It’s not something you take. It’s a safe lubricant for TTC.
4. Does she take her temperature and chart? If not I would HIGHLY suggest this. This is the only way besides blood tests and ultrasounds to confirm ovulation. Even if she is using OPK’s (Ovulation predictor kits) they only detect the LH surge, this doesn’t mean she is actually releasing an egg.
5. She should test no sooner than 12 days after ovulation. I would suggest using a FRER (First Response Early Result) test, these ones seem to detect earlier and are more accurate.
6. There is a higher chance of multiples with Clomid. It triggers ovulation and can make it stronger, or make you drop more then one egg.
7.Unfortunately some people experience secondary infertility, so even if she is able to concieve her first child, this doesn’t mean she will be able to have a second.
I hope I was able to answer some questions for you. As you know this is a very hard road to travel. If you have any other questions let me know. Good luck to your daughter… Lots of baby dust coming her way!
Post # 4
@wowweddings20000: Don’t have tons of advice or insight as I am currently on my first round of clomid at 50mg (just finished my last pill today). It sounds like your daughter did everything that I was told to do (though I wasn’t told to hold my legs up after BD). It’s hard to say exactly when she should be able to test, but generally it seems that 12DPO seems to be somewhat of an average where the statistics get high enough to be relatively valid. Though, like I said, that’s just a guesstamate. As for multiples, I’ve been told that there is a 7-10% chance of multiples with clomid. Either way, I just wanted to say that I wish your daughter the best and hope that this round is successful for her. She’s definitely lucky to have such a wonderful mother supporting her along the way.
Post # 5
I don’t have any advice on Clomid, though I’m surprised her doctor put her on it so quickly. It sounds like your daughter is tracking her periods but isn’t charting her basal body temperature. Presuming she ovulated within a day or so of her positive OPK, her timing was great. However, it’s possible to get a positive OPK and not ovulate right away or not ovulate at all. The only way she’d know is by charting or by having an ultrasound. So if she ovulated later after the OPK, then their timing wouldn’t have been as good. I’d definitely encourage your daughter to chart her cycles if she doesn’t get pregnant this round. The book Taking Charge of Your Fertility is a great resource.
Post # 6
I am pretty experienced with Clomid! I have taken a life time’s allowance of it – which is 10 cycles (doctors will not allow you to take more than 10 cycles worth of it). I started with 50mg and worked my way up to 150mg. And you might not like to hear this, but it did not work for me. It sounds like your daughter is doing what she needs to be doing. I started testing for ovulation early, not to miss it, so I spent a lot on ovulation kits. I probably started around day 12, even though I typically didn’t ovulate until day 17 or 18. As for multiples; my doctor told me that there is only a 3% chance of multiples while on Clomid.
Post # 7
@BOGB: Thank you so much for your reply – I pray you are successful as well – please keep me posted and I will keep you in our prayers! God Bless and thanks so much!
Post # 8
@calgarymommy2b: Thank you so much for your response! You’re are right not the news I wanted to hear – but the truth is the truth. May I be nosey and ask if you have conceived? and if so, what did work for you?
Thank you so much for all the information!
Post # 9
I’m sorry you’re daughter is going through this! I agree with some of the other ladies, I’m surprised her dr already put her on Clomid without additional testing prior. My story is similar to @RoyalLime: and I second everything she said.
I went off BC 4/11 and got married in 9/11. We didnt avoid pregnancy prior to the wedding, but we did officially start TTC in 9/11. Because I had been off BC for so long, my dr sent me for blood work in 1/12 to check my hormone levels, etc. In 7/11, after still no pregnancy, she sent my Darling Husband for a SA and all came back well. I ended up having a chemical pregnancy in Sept, so in Nov, I was sent for an HSG and all was clear, thankfully! I ended up getting my BFP in Dec, however, that pregnancy resulted in a MC at 9.5 weeks in Feb.
After that back story, my dr is going to start me on 100mg Clomid in April. Because I have had all of the bloodwork and HSG done prior, she will put me on Clomid for 6 months if necessary before referring me to a specialist. I was told that while on Clomid, there is a 2% chance for triplets and a 8-10% chance for twins. and like some of the other bees have said, Clomid doesn’t work for everyone, but I really hope your daughter gets her happy ending!
Post # 10
@twofortheshow: Thank you for your response and the advice – she is a school teacher and they live way out in the country so by the time she gets home (if she is able to get a signal on her computer) she never gets on the computer – so I think I will have to learn how to do this and then show it to her – she is willing to do whatever it takes to get this baby. I told her that when I was ttc 27 year ago the dr had me chart my temperature and she laughed at me and said “mom, no one does that anymore – they use OPK’s instead” so I cant wait to tell her mom does know something! lol! Thank you again for your help and advice!
Post # 11
@RoyalLime: I think it all depends on your doctor and your personal health history because my OB GYN says she will put me on Clomid immediately once we decide we are ready to TTC. I thought that was interesting as I have heard of so many people having to chart for a year or so before their doctor will consider it.
Post # 12
@wowweddings20000: I did finally conceive, I am now almost 14 weeks pregnant. My husband and I tried 2 rounds of IUI unsuccessfully and were 1 cycle away from starting the IVF process when we got pregnant naturally. I’m still in shock about it because we had been trying for almost 4 years. We had gone through all the testing we could have, and were diagnosed with unexplained fertility, which is a very frustrating diagnosis. I know how hard this process must be for your daughter, and for you because my mom and I are very close too. I’m not going to tell you to tell your daughter to “just relax” because that is the worst thing people could say to me. I hope all of this works out in the end for your daughter though!
Post # 13
@RoyalLime: Thank you so much for your response! You were a ton of help. I think they were comfortable going to Clomid as quickly as they did because she had charted her periods and they were all over the place and I think because of my history of having problems? I dunno – but they were very comfortable doing it – or at least seemed to be. They did do bloodwork to check for thyroid issues, etc. She had her annual PAP but there has been no ultrasound that I know of and I know my son in law has not been checked – they wanted him too but since they knew my daughter was definitely part of the problem thought they would start with her. The MD did say if she does not conceive this month that he should be tested. I definitely want to get her to start charting her temp because we were both under the belief that a positive OPK meant she was ovulating – especially since she had the pain and the mucousy discharge (sorry if that is TMI). My son in law has decide to take a
“natural” medicine that is supposed to make him more fertile – are those safe? I have never seen two people that want a child so much – they are amazing kids and will make such incredble parents – they both have so much love to give. It is tough watching their heartache each month – her bestie just announced her pregnancy with only one month of trying and her sister in law just gave birth a few months ago – obviously she is happy for them but it is difficult. She is a teacher and she sees these teenage girls getting pregnant and have no business having a child and dont even want the child – yet she struggles (as so many of us do) – I try and tell her God has a plan for each of us – but that doesnt ease the pain.
I feel so blessed to have found this group – I cant wait til she visits this weekend so I can share all of this with her – you have all been so amazing. I didnt even know about this board and simply was on here because I am a wedding vendor and thought it would be a great place to advertise – I think I was meant to find all of you to help us through this – you have been such wonderful support already!
The MD told her that her next step, if she does not conceive this month, that he would want to have my son in law tested and she would do one more round of Clomid for a total of three and then they could do the IUI – but he wanted at least three rounds of Clomid before moving forward. Personally, I would prefer them go straight to IVF and just skip all this heartache – but the MD does not agree. Does that seem normal? Besides charting (which I am going to make sure she starts asap) and asking about an ultrasound – is there anything else she should be doing or having done?
Thank you so much – you are such a blessing!
Post # 14
@lroetheli: I have another question, sorry to bother you, I just talked to her and she is having some cramping – is that bad, should we be concerned about anything?
Thanks ugh – I think I am more nervous than she is and I am trying to act like I am not stressed at all…lol
Post # 15
Thought I would throw in my 2 cents. 🙂
I got off the pill in May 2012, and we used protection until we started TTC in Sept 2012. I don’t chart my temps or CM, but I do track how long my periods last. Once my cycle went past 60 days, I went to see my OB/GYN. This was in Feb, we’d been Trying for 6 months. He thinks I’m not ovulating, so I was placed on Clomid 50mg.i had already gotten all of the basic prebaby lab work completed, all normal. He did not induce my period, we just “pretended” that the first day I took the Clomid was cycle day 5. I got my first positive OPK on CD15. Had bloodwork done to test my progesterone 7DPO, which my levels were low. Either i didnt ovulate at all, or i did but it wasn’t very strong. My period started yesterday, so I will be taking my second round of Clomid at 100mg starting on CD5.
I hope this helps! He said we’ll do 3 Clomid rounds, then go from there if I haven’t gotten pregnant by then.
Post # 16
@Nurse_Bee: Your doctor is going to put you on Clomid the first month you TTC? Do you realize all the side effects that drug causes? Is there a reason for you to think you may have issues concieving? I would HIGHLY recommend doing some research before just getting on something like that right away.