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Are you an organ donor?

posted 7 months ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Are you an organ donor?
    Yes! Give them all away! : (89 votes)
    79 %
    No, for moral/religious reasons : (1 votes)
    1 %
    No, I just have never thought about it : (3 votes)
    3 %
    No, it freaks me out : (9 votes)
    8 %
    No, family wouldn't like it : (1 votes)
    1 %
    No, I'm too lazy to check the box at the DMV : (1 votes)
    1 %
    No, I can't due to disease/long term medications : (1 votes)
    1 %
    Other : (7 votes)
    6 %
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    So the thread about your after-life plans surprised me with how many people are actually donors. So I just thought I would start a post to talk about it! As someone with a very vested interest in donors and organ transplants (My dad has needed one for 3 years!) I am so happy to see how many bees are on the lists or expressed that they plan to be.

    So tell us, are you a donor? Are you not? Do you have a specific reason why or why not? Does your family/SO/POA know what you want? Do tell! :)

    Also, I wonder if there is any corilation to those who also donate blood/blood products regularly. 

     
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    galloway111    June 16, 2012   WI

    @chasesgirl: I am a donor, I always have been. I remember in elementary school health class learning about organ donation and I went home and told my mom that if I died she should save people with my body. I also donate blood.

    I really think that unless someone has a religious/cultural/medical reason for not donating, everyone should.

     
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    eloping    May 23, 2010  

    im a yes but my husband is a hell no for himself - he wont even entertain a discussion on him being a donor.

    every few months if there is a tv program or a story i remind my husband im an organ donor and i dont want him to feel torn by the decision - hes not to keep me alive hooked up to machines and hes not to be traumatised by having to make a donor decision

     
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    sugarxcoated    December 16, 2012   Montana

    Absolutely. I think it's selfish not to be. We are no longer with our body, why do we need them? I think if you have a loved one who needs an organ, or needed one and never got it, that would especially up make your decision. There are few organs to go around and many people wait for years and never get their life back.

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @sugarxcoated Amen. My dad is in a region for the transplant lists where there is a seriously high need do to the dominate ethnic groups pre-disposition for certain types of diseases and a serious lack of willing donors due to the major relgious belief as well. 

    Just some stats for those who are interested: As of October 2011 there are (In the US):

    112,178 Patients Waiting*

    61,767 Multicultural Patients*

    1,746 Pediatric Patients*

    28,665 Organ Transplants Performed in 2010

    14,510 Organ Donors in 2010

    • More than 100,000 men, women and children currently need life-saving organ transplants.
    • Every 10 minutes another name is added to the national organ transplant waiting list.
    • An average of 18 people die each day from the lack of available organs for transplant.
    • In 2009, there were 8,021 deceased organ donors and 6,610 living organ donors resulting in 28,465 organ transplants.
    • Last year, more than 42,000 grafts were made available for transplant by eye banks within the United States.
    • According to research, 98% of all adults have heard about organ donation and 86% have heard of tissue donation.
    • 90% of Americans say they support donation, but only 30% know the essential steps to take to be a donor.

     

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @eloping: Any particular reason your FI is so against it? Is it the whole being cut up part or what?

    Oh and what are other peoples thoughts on an "Opt Out" program for organ donation? Like where if you die and your organs can be used, they would be, unless you have specifcally stated that you would not like them to be harvested.

     
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    Mrs.Estep    December 11, 2010   VA

    No, I am diabetic so its not a good idea. Basically everything in me can be damaged due to diabetes.

    My eyes, kidneys, legs, feet, nerves, ect. 

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @Mrs.Estep: I am pretty sure if you keep it well controlled and avoid the damage (which I would advise anyway :) ) then you can still be a donor, just not a live donor because there is too much risk of some complication and you needing both of whatever you donated. 

     
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    eloping    May 23, 2010  

    @chasesgirl: he basically says that for him to continue onto his next journey he needs all the bits and pieces that he was born with - hes very much opposed for himself but has no issue with me being a organ donor. ive tried to see if there is any latitude with him but there is none so i hope i would honor his wish even though i dont agree with it

     
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    Ree723    July 9, 2011   Australia

    Absolutely.  I'm also an avid blood donor.  Personally, I'm of the school of thought that ALL people should automatically be organ donors unless they go through a concerted effort to register for a card stating that they do NOT want to be a donor.  If someone feels that strongly about not donating their organs, they should be the ones who have to jump through hoops to make sure it doesn't happen, not the other way around for us who do want to be donors.

    Sidenote:  I know signing the back of your license is not that big of a deal but it's still not a legally binding document and if your next of kin doesn't want your organs donated, they won't be donated, regardless of your wishes.  

     
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    Mrs.Estep    December 11, 2010   VA

    @chasesgirl: Yes, my sugar is in great check! :-) Thanks for letting me know. I really never thought about the two being so different. 

     
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    eloping    May 23, 2010  

    it's still not a legally binding document and if your next of kin doesn't want your organs donated

    this is why i have discussions with hubby to remind him that i want to be a donor and to be happy about that decision - its really important for your family to know so they arent put in a difficult place when the question is asked

     
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    Ree723    July 9, 2011   Australia

    @chasesgirl:   Those statistics make me incredibly sad - only 8000 deceased organ donors in 2009?!  What on earth!?  That is an appallingly low number and absolutely shocks me.   With so many healthy people dying in accidents (which is tragic and sad, I agree), I can't believe we don't have a much, much higher number of donors. 

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @eloping: Interesting! Glad you are a donor still though! 

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @Ree723: Because it takes a little effort to decide to be a donor and people just don't. No one LIKES to think about death. Most of the people who die and have organs used for donation die suddenly. This may sound extra morbid, but of the 6 near-miss calls my dad has had in the last 3 years, 1 was a gun shot wound to the head, one was a motorcycle crash, one a car wreck, one some kind of cerebral accident where the patient was already in the hospital and went brain dead so the organs were donated, and two I don't know. They weren't people ready to die so they hadn't thought about things that had to do with death! 

     
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    tea       norcal

    I voted other. I used to be wary of it but then my dad became a recipient of an organ donation and I really appreciated the thoughtfulness of the donor and their family. If it weren't for them, I would have lost my dad a lot sooner than we did (sadly he had some complications but the donation gave us another 9 months with him :)) I haven't offically signed up yet since I wanted to discuss my plans with my mister first but I plan on it! I figured I could pay it forward. 

     
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    Aure    October 6, 2012   Las Vegas

    If my organs are useable they will be donated, though they may not be because I smoked for a long time. I've heard rumours that they may not work as hard to save you if you've marked down that you're a donor on your license if you do get into an accident so I'm not official, but my family knows what I would like done.

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @tea: If you don't mind, what kind of transplant did you dad get? 

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @Aure: Myth! Total and completely. :) The transplant team is a seperate thing entirely from the medical staff working on you to save your life. The only time being a donor comes up is if you are already dead or brain dead with no chance of recovery and your will or family decide to take you off life support. Then, and only then is the donor question asked. :) Sorry, this is just near and dear to me so I have lots to say! 

     
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    Aure    October 6, 2012   Las Vegas

    @chasesgirl: My ex is a paramedic and I heard it straight from him. I'm not willing to take the chance. Most rumours have a grain of truth to them somewhere.

     
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    chasesgirl    December 30, 2011   East Texas

    @Aure: Hmm... In all the research I have done, I have found it to be utterly false. No offense to your ex at all! I just think he is mis-informed.

    And it is things like that, paranoid untruths that let 18 people a day die without transplants. Again, especially in an ER or critical care situation, the doctors, nurses and techs there are not in any way involved with transplants. There is a very specific team that works on removal and transplants but this is not done or discussed until all measures to save and preserve life are taken. They cannot and will not discuss your status or lack there of for organ donation until you are profoundly and completely dead.

    The only thing I can think of that might spark that sort of rumor is that it is possible for patients that are brain dead and only function through artifical life support to stay on the machines so they are still physically "alive" in the sense there is still blood and oxygen flowing to their organs to preserve them, but no organs will be taken from a body that has the chance of neurological recovery on life support. 

     
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    Aure    October 6, 2012   Las Vegas

    @chasesgirl: He very well may be. I did term it a rumour. I'm still not changing my license. My FI and my family know my wishes.

     
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    I am not listed as an organ donor on my license, but my mom (current next of kin) knows that I want any viable organs to find a new home in someone else's body if possible.  Furthermore, my female reproductive organs are to go to a specific University for research if I die before menopause.  Not enough pre-menopausal women donate their female organs to science, and because women's medicine has always fascinated me, I want to be a part of it even after I'm gone.

    I would want someone else to continue to live through my donation.  Even though I'm extremely grateful to have learned extensively from human cadavers, I do not want my body donated to science in any way aside from the aforementioned purpose.

     
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    Miss Godiva    June 1, 2012   California

    I've heard that rumor that they won't try as hard to save you if you have donor marked on your license as well, from many different people that have never met each other. I'm not saying that this makes it true, but yeah....

    I don't have the donor dot on my license, but my FI does know my wishes to donate once the time comes. We're both going to be cremated after death, why waste any healthy organs that could save or positively impact somebody's life?

    And I agree with a PP, those that do NOT want to be organ donors should be the ones that have to sign something saying they do not want to be, not the other way around.

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    I'm an organ donor.  I'll be dead.  I won't need them.

    I also think that being an organ donor should be an opt-out process and not an opt-in process.  Basically, make everyone an organ donor unless they take steps to have themselves removed from consideration.

     
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    misssydneyj    April 2, 2012   California

    @Aure: <--- This. I'm not an organ donor on my license, but my FH knows I want my organs donated when I die. I refuse to put it on my license though for the same reasons she listed. I know a few paramedics also, and they said the same thing.

     
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    zippylef    October 30, 2010   Norfolk, UK

    I'm an organ donor. It says it on both my American license and my British one. DH knows my wish to donate any and all viable organs and tissues. I want to be cremated, so it seems like a waste not to.

    My FIL died a couple months ago waiting for a liver and a lung. I offered to test to be a living liver donor for him, but he was too far gone and needed a whole liver.

    The whole thing about they won't try as hard to save you is BS.

     
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    BoiledPNut    April 2012  

    Aso-freaking-lutely!  I have no need for my organs once I'm gone.  FI and I have had extensive talks about this.  He is also a donor.  IMO it's very selfish not to donate.  You never know if you might need a donor organ, so you should be willing to donate as well. 

     
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    MrsWrangler    October 2, 2010   Florida

    @Aure: I've heard that rumor too but from the standpoint of the doctors, why would they lose one life to save another one? They don't have any conflict of interest there, they're not trying to save a specific life - just the person in front of them. Plus the point about the medical team vs. the transplant team being different... seems to be a very pervasive rumor though.

    Anyway, I'm an organ donor. Go science and helping people!

     
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    mrskesslertobe    September 18, 2010  

    @Ree723: In my state when you sign your license at the DMV it a legal binding agreement and they can take your organs even without consent. This changed 2 years a go so definately somehting everyone should ask when the renew their license.

    I would want to be a donor and my family know this. I won't join the registry because if something happened and my family honnestly felt they couldn't stand the thought of me having my body cut apart and no longer being me (which is a common feeling), I wouldn't want them to suffer any more then they would have to.

    I work in a cardiac ICU, and I can guarantee you people work as hard as they can to save anyone regardless of if they are organ donators or not. It is a very complicating process of keeping the organs alive long enough to do the matching and tests. To be eligible to donate the organs you have to be able to keep them in a usable condition, which is actually very difficult once the body starts to shut down.

     
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    heathaah    September 2009  

    I am an organ donor, and I am registered with the national bone marrow donation thingie (and would love that opportunity to help someone in that way) BUT I can't donate blood.  I have a fear of needles, which I could get over if I had to.  But seeing the blood come out of me like that, and sitting in the room with other people donating, I honestly do not think it would be safe for me.  It would be traumatic.  I would most definately both throw up and faint, if not something more serious.  I WOULD donate blood if they could knock me out, or even just blindfold me in a room by myself. 

     
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    Take The Reins    August 11, 2012   Canada

    I am an organ donor(and blood donor when I can), and whatever science wants, it can have.  I will be cremated, so what does it matter?  Less ash?  Big deal.

    My FI, a big hell no!  We discuss it fairly often, I bring it up all the time hoping I will wear convince him it's not a morbid thing to do.  My family knows my wishes, and it's on my lisence, I have a donor card in my wallet also and it's in my will (though, by the time the will is brought out, it will likely be too late to harvest organs)

    I think it's an amazing legacy to help others survive after you are gone.  If anyone has watched the movie 7 Pounds, that impacted me immensley.  If I can't be here, I can still give to another human being to make their life richer and longer.  I'm all over it.

    I also agree it should be an opt out program vs an opt in.  Makes more sense, if you are too lazy to opt out, then you're in!  Why does it always have to be so hard to do a good thing?

     
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    MrsMcGyro    July 9, 2011   New York

    I'm a proud organ donor. Use whatever you can from me and then cremate me.

     
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    MrsSl82be    October 24, 2009  

    @chasesgirl: people really do not like talking about death!! I am a life insurance agent, and I have to deal with these people all the time. I know nobody wants to thnk about dying, but seriously people, its gonna happen one way or another! :)

    I'm an organ donor, on the bone marrow list, and also give blood when I can (health has not been great lately, and my iron is too low, plus I bleed so slowly and only have 1 good vein. I have had to have a lot of lab work done, so right now I need all my blood! But, I hope to get back into it again soon)

     
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    acingthelace    September 24, 2011  

    @Aure: I have heard that, too. It may or may not be true but my DH and family all know that if I was knocking on heaven's door that I'd like my organs to be donated. I used to have the symbol on my driver's licence but I took it off. I still choose to donate, if the situation were to ever arise, but I want my family to make that decision, not a doctor or paramedic who doesn't know me.

     
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    BoiledPNut    April 2012  

    I didn't realize there was an actual registry!  Thanks for that.  I'm now signed up. 

    I'm also on the registry to donate bone marrow if needed, but I don't know if I can.  I have thalassemia, so I'm not sure if my marrow would be any good.

     
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    regberadaisy    August 14, 2010  

    I am not an organ donor and my reason is a selfless reason. It's for my mom, she's very against it and believes that in order to pass into the next realm you need your body in one piece. Not necessarily what I believe but I know if people were to cut up my body after I am gone it will give her too much added pain. I do not want to do that to her.

    If my family needed my organs while I am alive, that is a totally different story. Take everything they need that my body does not.

    @MrsSl82be:

    You are absolutely right! People don't like to talk about death. It's inevitable and we all will die. While we are alive we need to make sure things are in order so it's easier on our loved ones when we pass.

     
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    MrsSl82be    October 24, 2009  

    @Take The Reins: I just happened upon that movie one day scrolling through the guide, and I was floored by it. Why did it not come out in theaters? Or if it did, how in the world did I miss it!! Great movie! :)

     
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    Mrs. Maple Syrup    August 2, 2010  

    YES!  I'll be dead what will I need them for then.

     
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    UpstateCait    October 7, 2011   Upstate, NY

    I’m a donor. Unless there is a religious reason not to be, I think it’s silly (and selfish) not to donate. What good are your organs going to do you after you’re dead? I’d much rather know that whatever viable organs I have are going to go to someone who needs them. There are so many people out there clinging on to life just because they can’t get the kidney or lung that they need. If I’m dead and I’m a match then cut me open and rip it out. I have no use for them anymore.   

     

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