(Closed) asha or moissanite

posted 4 years ago in Rings
  • poll: asha or moissanite
    asha : (12 votes)
    32 %
    forever brilliant moissanite : (26 votes)
    68 %
  • Post # 3
    Member
    3101 posts
    Sugar bee

    @Hellokitty_lady:  I own a moissanite, not an asha.  And I am getting another moissanite for my 5 year anniversary.  So you know where I stand!  But as far as I’ve heard, Asha is easier to pass off as a diamond (if that’s what you want).  But imo you should be proud of owning a non-diamond ring!

    Post # 4
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    483 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: November 2014

    I have a 1.3 ct FB moissanite, that I lurrrrrrvve! I love Princess cuts too 🙂

    Post # 5
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 1997

    @Hellokitty_lady:   I dont have either one but have seen moissante and they are beautiful and very durable. While I havent seen asha, I have seen cz. Cz will cloud n scratch.

    Post # 6
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    669 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    @Hellokitty_lady:  If your purpose in wanting either an asha or moissy is to simply pass it off as a diamond, I implore you to really think about what you’re doing and why you’re doing it. When there are the diamond/moissy debates on the bee, the animosity towards asha/moissy owners derives directly from this. Be proud of what you have and be honest about what you have — if you want a diamond get a diamond you can afford. If you want a moissy, tell people it’s a moissy and don’t pass it off as something its not.

    Post # 7
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @Hellokitty_lady:  If you want something to pass off as a diamond (and I’m not weighing in on whether that’s the right decision for you, and only *you* can make that decision, not others *ahem*), the best option in my mind is going with an Asha for the time being and then in 2015 when the Amora Gem becomes available, replace the Asha with that.  If, for some unforeseen reason, the AG doesn’t make it to market, then you could replace the Asha with a moissanite.

    Asha is made to be a diamond simulant. Moissanite, while often used in that way, had both similar and different properties than diamond.  It’s a lovely stone in and of itself but it isn’t the *best* diamond simulant.  It is, however, a “forever” stone in terms of it’s durability….which Asha may not be.  The Amora Gem will be much more “diamond-like” than moissanite is.  And even if you end up with moissanite in the end instead of AG, the quality of moissanite improves noticeably so moissanite produced in 2 years may very well have less colour than moissanite produced now.

    And yes, rounds will show the least amount of body colour.

    I thought the Amora moissanite shows less colour than the Forever Brilliant, so I’m not sure which is better between the two.

     

    Post # 8
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: August 1997

    @cdncinnamongirl:  moissanite is a diamond sim just as cz  is. Moissanite is a man made jewel (it is NOTot a gemstone) It is made from synthetic silicon carbide. It is altered to make the moissanite more diamond like.Moissanite was created to be an affordable diamond sim just as cz was. Although now marketing for moissanite is changing that approachof advertising .  

    No gem quality moissanite or cz exists or has ever existed. Moissanite is fabricated in

     

     a factory (Cree) in NC that produces led lights.  Moissanite is more durable than cz. Prices are expected to drop in 2015 for moissanite when the patent expires and there is no longer a monopoly on production.

     

     

    Moissanite has beautiful sparkle and is durable and a fracture of the cost of a similar sized quality diamond.

    No diss just facts. Have a good day. 🙂

    Post # 9
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    Bumble bee
    • Wedding: September 2012

    @gemgirl6:  Well thank you for that education.  I did say it’s used as a diamond simulant, didn’t I? And I didn’t indicate that it was or wasn’t natural, in fact I actually mentioned the production quality so clearly it’s a produced stone, not a mined stone.  I didn’t call it a gemstone.  I called it a stone, which it is.  I appreciate your willingness to make sure I know the facts, but I already do, so thanks!

    And I do totally agree it has a lovely sparkle at a reasonable price, not everyone’s cup of tea to be sure…..different strokes for different folks is one of the things that make the world an interesting place! 🙂

     

     

    Post # 10
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    Helper bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    @Hellokitty_lady:  It depends, what do you want in a stone?

    If you want a stone that looks, acts, and plays with light exactly like a diamond, then Asha is your best bet.  It’s a diamond-coated CZ and IMO a brilliant product that makes the look of a diamond affordable for everyone.  Just be aware though that it is not a forever stone and will need to be replaced every few years.

    If all you are looking for is a white stone that most people will assume is a diamond, moissanite is an option.  I encourage you not to get it though if you have your heart set on the specific look of a diamond, beyond just being white and sparkly.  The people who come on this site upset and disappointed with moissanite tend to be people who wanted a diamond and expected the moissanite to take the place of one.  It just doesn’t work like that.  Now, moissanite is a forever stone, but if you hate it why would you want it to last forever?Tongue Out

    Yes, some people use it as a diamond simulant, blah blah blah (though I don’t think that most do, and my jeweler always made a point to discourage that).  That fact won’t make you feel any better if you look at your ring on an overcast day and see it showing color, or looking at it when the sun is out and seeing what looks to be a ball of fire on your finger, or when you’re in K-Mart with your mom and sister and you notice that under the florescent light your ring has crazy rainbow burts shooting out of the center of the stone.  In most light the casual observer may assume diamond, but you will definitely know that it’s not, and you’ll see the differences every single day.  If that’s what you love (that’s what I love) then perfect, if not, look at Asha or try to find an affordable diamond option.  

    Post # 11
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    77 posts
    Worker bee

    @classyashley:  She can do whatever she wants. Why is it her problem if some people want to know what her stone is so they can judge her for it? If she wants to pass it off as a diamond, then that’s her business. it won’t take away from your diamond, so get off your soap box.

    Moissanite has twice the fire of a diamond, which makes them look less like a diamond than an Asha. I think you should get both stones and return the one you don’t want, but I think an Asha will probably serve you best. 

    Post # 12
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    417 posts
    Helper bee
    • Wedding: October 2013

    @secretlyabee:  Meh, let her be upset.  At the end of the day we all wear our rings because we’re marrying the love of our lives, we don’t wear them for anyone else and it really isn’t anyone else’s business.  If you are wearing your ring for the purpose of impressing others or if you’re looking at another’s ring and trying to use it to judge them/their finances/social standing/whatever, then you probably aren’t mature enough for marriage anyway. 

    Post # 13
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    77 posts
    Worker bee

    @BuBuBubbles:  Exactly. At the end of the day, does it really matter? No, it doesn’t. A woman shouldn’t be shamed into buying a small diamond if it isn’t what she wants. She should be able to get a diamond look alike and let people assume it’s a diamond. What separates her from someone with a genuine diamond? She doesn’t have the money or doesn’t want to spend the money on a genuine diamond. Diamonds aren’t rare, and if she had the money, she could easily get one. It’s not a very good status symbol, so people should drop it. 

    Post # 15
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    Sugar bee
    • Wedding: April 2015

    I was on the waitlist for an Amora, so when that became available, I ordered it along with an Asha for comparison. I found moissanite to be much too moody for my taste, so it’s not for me. The colour may be really deep and buttery in one room, and plasticky and white in another. I didn’t play around with the Asha much because once I told my boyfriend it was a CZ, he immediately disliked it. When we compared it to two diamonds, I thought the Asha looked pretty good, but lacked the fire of diamonds. It didn’t look flat like the generic CZ that came with my setting, but the sparkles didn’t dance like the diamond.

    If you want to pass your stone off as genuine, then you should know that moissanite has a totally different cut than diamond. It’s really flat (shallow?). I’m not a gemstone enthusiast and haven’t done a huge amount of research, but moissanite doesn’t look like a diamond. Asha may be a good compromise for you, but I don’t know much about them. 

    ETA: I don’t recommend passing a CZ or moissanite as a diamond because someone’s bound to know it’s not genuine. 

    Post # 16
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    77 posts
    Worker bee

    @gemgirl6:  Actually, not facts. Moissanite isn’t “altered” to look like a diamond. It happens to have qualities similar to a diamond, and those qualities develop during the process of making the moissanite crystals. Moissanite was discovered in tiny quanitites and scientists started making it so there could be large, usable crystals unlike the tiny ones they were finding. Moissanite is man made, but they are simulating the moissanite stone, not a diamond, since naturally occurring moissanite is too small to use. Plus, it’s not like they can just pump them out at will. It takes over a month for the moissanite crystals to form, and not all of them are gem quality.

     

    Also, prices are not expected to drop. it is speculated that they may but considering making moissanite is difficult to make, costly and requires specialized machines and individuals to form it, the prices won’t be dropping just because the patent expires. You need to have the ability to make it, and make enough stones to bring the prices down. Even if the prices did drop, the stone would still be just as beautiful, although some people weigh something’s value based on what it costs. 

     

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