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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    Let me preface this by saying that I know it's generally rude to ask for a +1 when not given one, and I totally understand the guest list/cost per head/venue size concerns, and I'm probably going to get a lot of flak for this, but hear me out.

    Backstory: SO and I have been together for 3 years and are most likely getting engaged this summer or early fall. He's moving in with me next month.

    SO's distant cousin is getting married in September; SO just got the STD in the mail today. I've never met him or the bride, so they don't "know about me", i.e., they don't know that SO is in a relationship, let alone a serious one. SO and this cousin haven't seen each other or talked at all in the 3 years we've been together.

    I know from reading so many posts on here that couples planning weddings HATE it when people ask for +1s, and I completely understand why...but I just feel like it's a little different when the person asking for one is in a serious relationship/will most likely be engaged at the time of the wedding, and the marrying couple is just distant family who literally wouldn't know about the relationship at all. SO and I are a package deal, just like any other engaged/married couple. And I'm sure that the issue is just that they literally don't know about me, not that they're trying to keep it "close family only"...SO and this cousin are not technically even blood related, so not by any stretch are they close!

    Is there any possible non-rude way to ask/drop hints/inform this cousin that SO has a live-in girlfriend/almost-fiancee? He and SO literally never, ever talk, so it's not like he could call him or text him or even Facebook him to casually let him know (SO didn't even know the cousin had a gf, let alone was engaged and getting married this fall, until he got the STD today). Would it be rude to flat-out ask if I'd be invited? I guess I'm being a little preemptive here because we haven't even gotten the actual invite yet so who knows, SO might get a +1 anyway...but I feel like, if there is ever a time to ask it would be now, far before the wedding, rather than waiting till the last minute when RSVPing.

    If this is still considered totally rude then I'll of course keep my mouth shut, but I'm just curious as to what everyone thinks about this. Please don't bite my head off :)

     
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    ohheavenlyday    August 20, 2011   Savannah, Georgia

    I'm not going to bite your head off, but when some venues have strict numbers of guests that can be accommodated, and you have a LOT of people you'd like to invite and cuts inevitably have to be made, inviting a person you have NEVER met is not a high priority. I know you'd like to go with your SO, but just think- that's a seat that a stranger is taking up that they'd perhaps rather fill with a friend or coworker or at least a +1 that they know. 

     
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    T.R.Bride    September 16, 2011  

    @ohheavenlyday I completely agree. In a perfect world, yes, you would be invited to this wedding. But if this distant relative isn't close to your SO, so much so that he doesn't even know you guys are in a serious relationship, then I can understand why you wouldn't make the cut. Just know that it's probably nothing personal. I imagine that the couple wants to ensure that all of their nearest and dearest can actually attend. I'm sure that when you and your SO are planning your wedding, you'll be wrestling with similar dilemmas like this one!

     
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    Sorry, but yes it would be rude. When you are planning your own wedding you will be on the other side of the decision making, and you will understand why someone who is not yet even living together is not invited. Every couple has to draw the line somewhere.

     

     
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    Frog E.    March 31, 2012   NYC, wedding in LA

    I'm curious why either you or SO want to attend this wedding given your lack of closeness to the couple.

    We recently had this situation where FH was invited to his cousin's wedding, and I wasn't, despite the fact that we'd been engaged about nine months by the time the invites went out. As in your case, FH and the cousin are not that close, so FH declined (for more reasons just than the fact that I wasn't invited, I admit; who the heck gets married the evening of Easter Sunday?!). That solved the problem, for us anyway.

     
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    Atalanta    September 3, 2011  

    did the STD say it is only for him? Generally I'd just assume he's get a plus one.

     
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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    @ohheavenlyday: Hmm, that's a good point. I hadn't thought of it like that before. I don't know if it is a venue size constraint issue (like I said, I don't even know yet if I'm definitely not invited) but that is something to consider. And thanks for not biting my head off :P I guess I always just get up in arms about stuff like this because SO's entire family has generally been un-accepting of our relationship thus far because we live and act like we're married, and yet in his family's eyes I'm just an insignificant trollop playing house with him and our relationship is trite because there is no ring on my finger, so anytime something like this happens where I don't get invited it feels like a slap in the face, even though there might well be a valid reason behind it.

     
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    mzlouis2b    November 3, 2012   Live in Brooklyn, wedding in MI

    The fact that they are not close makes it even more likely that they may still not want to invite you. Your FI is an adult he should be able to go to a family wedding without you. Like PP said you cant assume peoples situations and you have to draw the line somewhere. And even thoug im sure you are a nice person, a distant cousins almost fiance who i never heard of or even met would not make the cut on my guestlist. So i wouldnt say anything about it.

    Your FI could contact his cousin to say congrats on the upcomming wedding and let them know how you guys are planning to wed soon. Then if they want to add you to the guest list they can. But i wouldnt try to force it.

     
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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    @Frog E.: Heh, that is a good point, but some of SO's actual close-but-don't-see-them-that-often family will be there, so it would be nice to go to get to see them. (They live out of town so it's not like we could just get lunch one day...this will probably be the only time we'll see them for who-knows-how-long.)

     
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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    @Atalanta: Yeah, the STD was mailed to him and addressed only to him. However I didn't really think that STDs generally indicate +1s? I could be wrong though haha. No one I've ever known to get married has sent STDs before this.

     
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    Atalanta    September 3, 2011  

    I don't think it is rude to ask especially if he dosn't know he has a g/f.  I've done it too to my cuz's wedding.  And one of my cusins also asked if she could bring her b/f, not even fiance to mine.  If you are really worried about it, maybe wait until you have the invite and are engaged.  If there is no +1 he can say, can't my fiance come?  That is reasonable.

     
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    Ms. Polar Bear    December 12, 2011  

    @Kant: How far away is the wedding? Correct me if I am wrong, but I have heard several bees say in other threads that long-term relationships/live-in SOs should expect to be included as a plus one. Especially when the invitee wouldn't know anyone at the wedding. So why not now?

    The fact of the matter is that you are long-term (3 years) AND you will be living together (in a month) thus you should be included under both clauses. Unless the wedding is in a month or two away I would expect (as a bride myself) that the +1 could be arranged. If there is no room, well fiance can send his hearty congratulations and not attend (they haven't spoken in 3 years after all).

    Just my 2 cents.

     
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    snoie    September 4, 2011   Northern, VA

    Wait for the actual invites - I addressed all my STDs to just that person / person+family, not + guest.

    If you two are planning to get engaged soon, and he's comfortable, he could talk with the cousin. I actually just got a wedding invite from my uncle, and it was addressed to just me. I've been dating (and engaged) longer than he's known his FI, so I was a bit ticked. I took the advice I was given on here and asked his wife to be about bringing my FI with me.

    Now, who knows if it bothered her, but inviting me and not my FI (when we just sent out STDs ourselves, which I even put her name on) was an insult. They invited both my sisters and their spouses, so I didn't see why my spouse wouldn't be invited.

     
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    SutSip    June 4, 2011  

    I'm with frog on this one. Honestly, it sounds like they sent him an invite because they felt like they *had* to. If he and his cousin aren't close, never talk, and he's never mentioned that he has a girlfriend in the last 3 YEARS, I have no idea why he would want to go to this wedding.  I know it's frusterating that you weren't invited, but no, he can't as for a +1. He can however, decline the invitation which seems like the best thing for everyone. He won't have to leave you, you won't have to feel left out, and the couple won't have to pay for strangers at their wedding.  

    Please don't take that harshly, I really mean to be nice. I know I definitely wouldn't go to a wedding where I hadn't talked to someone in over three years. I'd send a card congratulating on starting a new life.

     
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    Jenniphyr    February 2, 2013   Alberta, Canada

    I would wait for the actual invite to call. You've only recieved an STD at this point, so don't know for sure. Perhaps you could subtly let them know you exist by sending a congratulations card (perhaps "congrats on your engagement", or "congrats on your upcoming wedding"), and sign it with BOTH of your names (and maybe let them know you look forward to seeing them at your wedding? BUT ONLY if you're planning on inviting them, obviously). You could also send them an engagement anouncement when you do get engaged.

    I agree with the minority of PPs who say that since you're long-term, almost living together, and almost engaged, you should be invited. It's probably just that they didn't know you exist, like you said.

    However, just to qualify the above, I agree that they probably only invited your FH because "he's family" -- but you don't know for sure, they might be intent on having a big huge get together, and WANT 300 guests -- and I have to say that if I was invited, I might not go, just because I don't know them. : ) But if YOU want to go, then I think you're well within your boundaries to subtly hint for a +1.

     
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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    @Ms. Polar Bear: That's kind of what prompted my asking this question, because I definitely fit into the "guidelines", and yeah, SO probably won't know too many other people at the wedding (and I KNOW he won't dance or have fun if I'm not there to dance with...everyone tells me that I'm the only person who has ever gotten him to dance before, and he went to one wedding without me a couple years ago and said he was bored out of his mind haha).

    @snoie: I'm kind of feeling insulted too, I think that's why this bothers me so much. I see SO and me as a package deal, especially since we're thisclose to getting engaged, we just want to finish with school first (which happens in May for him and June for me). Wouldn't it be strange to invite one spouse but not the other if the couple is married? I see it the same way with longterm relationships/engaged couples.

     
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    Frog E.    March 31, 2012   NYC, wedding in LA

    @Kant: OK, I hear you. And yes, I do think that under etiquette rules you should be invited. But let's flip your reasoning around on why you want to go (boy, aren't I argumentative today!).

    When you get to planning your wedding, if you heard that your FI's cousin, who you'd never met/perhaps never heard of, wanted to bring his fiancee/live-in girlfriend to your wedding, not because they knew you all that well and wanted to celebrate with you, but because it would make a convenient family reunion for them, how would you feel? Personally, I'd hate to be planning my wedding as somebody else's family reunion. I want the people there to know us, love us, and want to celebrate with us. And with the cousin of FH's wedding, I could have been offended, and yes I'd like to see FMIL and FSIL and others who live on the other side of the country. But I don't know the bride and groom from Adam and I don't think I ever will.

    If the wedding is not that far away, perhaps you can meet your SO's relatives the day before/after for lunch or something?

     
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    H216scrf    November 11, 2011  

    I, also, send my STD's out without adding guest.  So you might want to wait until the actual invites go out.  You could also have a middle person casually ask if the marrying coupld know about your relationship.

    In regards to asking for a +1, while I hear what everyone voices above, but also, to be fair, we don't always know about a significant other.  I have tried to give most everyone in a serious relationship a plus one(though they won't know it until the actual invites), and while I don't really want many of my friends who casually date just to get a +1, I would hope someone would tell me about important significant others because I want to invite them. 

    So my advice is to try and field it out using a middle family member.  See what the bride and groom would like to see happen.  For all you know, you will be getting a plus one with the invite, or maybe they are over booked and are hoping some people won't come.  it could go either way.  It might be an oversight because they don't know you're a couple.  Personally, I would rather someone ask me if they were going to get a plus one and allow me to explain that seating is tight as it is if I want them to get hte hint, rather than assume I don't want them.  For me, if I invited you, I'd love for you to come and bring any long term significant other with you.

     
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    ilovenycmissie    September 2009   nyc

    yeah, I wouldn't take it personally, it's probably a budget issue, if you look up reception, this is half the vents of brides when people have unexpected guests it blows the budget out of proportion, making said brides want to rip their hair out

     

    usually grooms brides allow engaged couples and married couples,girlfriends and boyfriends are a grey area especially if the couple doesnt know them personally; wait til the final formal invitation and see what is stated; if there's no +1 then boom cant ask for it

     
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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    @SutSip: I didn't take it as being harsh, don't worry :) I do totally see what you mean, but SO really sounds like he wants to go to this wedding for whatever reason, so I don't think that him declining is an option. I'll ask him though to be sure since he hasn't actually come right out and said it.

     
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    MrsNeutrino    July 2012  

    I didn't know STDs had guest names on them! Def wait for the invite... or.. just don't go? I never understood why people invite other people to their wedding when they are not close at all.. and are not a part of eachothers lives..

     
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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    @Frog E.: Well...for our wedding, we are planning on only inviting very close relatives, so a cousin of SO's that he hasn't spoken to in 3 years would not even be on the guest list. But if one of our closer family who did get invited asked to bring their longterm SO that we may not have known about, then yes we would absolutely invite them. Longterm couples are an all-or-nothing deal in my opinion.

    And the convenient family reunion is not the only reason we'd want to go...we both just like weddings in general and enjoy celebrating with whatever couple it is (although, yes, it is mildly less exciting when the couple is not incredibly close with either of us).

    @ilovenycmissie: Yeah, I totally understand that this aggravates the couples planning their weddings, which is why I wanted to ask and to go about this as sensitively as possible! I don't want to be the rude cow who invites herself without consideration to budget/venue/size/whatever constrains.

     
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    Kant    June 30, 2012   PA

    Update: Just talked to SO about it and his response was, "Well if you don't get invited I just won't go. Why would I go if you didn't?" Aww. Problem solved, I guess! And I guess it drives home the point that I should actually talk to SO sometimes before coming crying to WB haha. But thanks for all the replies ladies, I do appreciate hearing both sides of the spectrum. I'm sure I will be eating my words one day soon when I'm dealing with this for my own wedding!

     
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    ohheavenlyday    August 20, 2011   Savannah, Georgia

    @Kant:

    I mean, you never know, they might find out about you and say to bring you along! But if they don't, I really wouldn't take it TOO personally since they are not close with your SO either. 

     
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    Miss Lilac    July 21, 2012  

    Etiquette aside... why don't you guys just not go to the wedding? Then there is no issue. Your SO is out of touch with the guy and you've never met him. I guess I don't even really understand the motivation behind going when he's a distant cousin and a total stranger.

     
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    Krises       NYC

    I actually think its normal to not be invited to a family wedding if you are not engaged. If your SO comes from a larger family, allowing all cousins who are in serious relationships +1s would probably significantly add to the bride/groom's numbers for the wedding. And to be fair, I'm sure they'd rather invite their friends who they are actually close to than a cousin's girlfriend that they didn't know existed. But I think your SO made the right call to not go if you are not invited, so nothing to worry about

     
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    Miss Godiva    June 1, 2012   California

    I haven't read all the PPs comments yet, so not sure if this has been mentioned. I have a sort of sneaky idea. Even though they aren't close, why can't your SO call his cousin to congratulate him on the engagement/wedding/etc and then spend a few minutes 'catching up' with each others lives? He can casually mention you and the fact that you've been dating for three years and about to start living together soon, maybe even drop hints of thinking of proposing, and how he'll "be engaged soon, too" or something to that effect!

     
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    andielovesj    August 13, 2011  

    @Miss Lilac: I agree.  I wouldn't go to a wedding for a cousin that I haven't seen in 3 years that doesn't even know that I am engaged.

     

     
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    maureen9004    August 2008  

    I have to agree with other  people who say don't ask for a plus one. Your fiance can decline the invite (personally, I would feel bad if my  husband went to a wedding I wasn't invited to). They've never met you anddon't really know about your relationship so I wouldn't hold it against them. This may be just be something where they don't know. Sometimes I think declining is better than stepping on toes. Send a card with both your names and your new address :D

     
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    jo.lee    September 10, 2011   Indianapolis

    I would definitely wait for the invite to find out if they included a plus one for you. I didn't send them out for guests unless they were engaged or living together and I knew them well. It was just too awkward to write 'and guest' on a tiny STD envelope.

    If they end up sending the invite and there's no plus one, try not to feel rejected or hurt. Remember that the couple doesn't actually know you!

     
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    Miss Pinup    July 13, 2011   Australia

    Considering the fact that you don't live together or aren't engaged I understand why you aren't invited to be honest. It does sound like your SO was invited because they *had* to invite him if they dont see him (we all have those family members who we need to invite). Especially considering you have never met them and they would have no idea you were going to get engaged in the future don't take it to heart.

    If I were in your position I wouldn't take offense to it, I would let my FI go to the wedding without making a huge deal about it.

     
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    Lindsay12.31.2010    December 31, 2010   Missouri

    It wouldn't bother me if someone asked.  After I sent out our save the dates, I just addressed one to a friend, not her fiance (I would have put him on the invitation for sure, though.)  She emailed me and asked if he was invited - she said if not, she completely understood, but that he had been asked to do a charity event that night, and she wanted him to come with her if he was invited.  I had absolutely no problem with her asking.

     
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    piglet_625    January 1, 1991  

    I would wait for the invite too, but your SO is so sweet to tell you he won't go without you... :)

    For our wedding, I found out about a lot of DH's cousins' SO's after the fact, and I felt bad that we couldn't invite them.  But, one of his cousins got engaged right before we sent out the invites, and we ended up inviting him since they were engaged.  Maybe his cousin will do the same for you guys!  Just make sure when you get engaged that you tell EVERYONE on that side of the family so the word spreads... :)

     
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    Wonderstruck    September 18, 2011   Detroit, MI

    It would be rude. My cousin got married last year and my live-in SO (who I got engaged to a couple weeks after their wedding) wasn't invited. And they got married on Sweetest Day (regional thing, don't ask)! But I didn't say anything because yes, it would of been rude, I know they were on a super-tight budget.

     
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    PoliceWifeToBe    October 8, 2011   Virginia

    if it was just a STD I wouldn't be too concerned.. when we mailed out ours, we didnt put and guest... but we plan to on our invites.. don't stress it.

     
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    K_alecia    May 21, 2011  

    I also say wait for the invite. I assumed my single guests would like to bring a plus one and accomodated. They may do the same.

     

     
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    SutSip    June 4, 2011  

    @Kant: haha no worries. Its actually great to be reminded of how great the boys are, eh? ; )

     
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    magicpotato    June 11, 2011   Wilmington, NC

    Wait until the actual invites come before you really start to worry about it. My STDs didn't all include +1s, especially those whom I wasn't sure about their relationship status.

    Maybe your SO can try to spread the word about you to more distant family members through his parents or grandparents.

    I didn't include +1s on all of my distant relatives' invites if I wasn't sure, and if one were to call me today and ask if their SO could come, I would not be offended in the least. It's not like there won't be a single person who can't make it and who's slot I can fill.

    No biggie.

     
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    bklynbridetobe    December 2011   Brooklyn Born

    @Miss Lilac: Exactly! Why bother? You not even going to support them as couple, you just see it as family reunion/party. Sorry I think thats kinda rude.

     
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    Cola262    August 14, 2011   SoCal

    I agree it's only the save the date. For all you know the actual invitation will have + guest. Don't worry until then.

     

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