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    Stephie07    November 3, 2012  

    Hello Bees, 

    The FI and I are going to be rented a beautiful oceanfront estate in Oahu for our wedding and reception.  The house can sleep 22 people and to be more cost effective for our guests and for us we are thinking about asking our guests to contribute to stay at the house.

    We will be providing a fridge and pantry full of food and will also include all alchoholic and non alchoholic beverages for the entire stay which will be 4 nights 5 days.

    We are thinking about asking for $400 per couple and $250 per single.

    I need your help in knowing if this is reasonable!! 

     
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    How many guests will you have? How many of those will be family?

    You could offer your guests the option of staying at the estate on the terms you outlined above  if you also ensure that they know they are welcome to book elsewhere-maybe suggest a couple of nearby hotels. $400 for 4 nights is exceedingly reasonable for Hawaii including some food and alcohol.

     
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    GeekChic    June 2012   Ontario, Canada

    I think thats perfectly fine as long as you outline the details and let them know theyre welcome to book elsewhere as PP suggested :)

     
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    j_jaye    September 21, 2011  

    Personally I would pay for the accommodation since it is technically the venue for your wedding and I would feel rude asking guests to contribute to that.

    The other thing I would be worried about is possibly having 20 other people (plus any staff you have hired waiters/bar/caterers) around all the time prior and after the wedding. Weddings can be stressful and do you need the added stress of Aunt Mary and Uncle Joe trying to make breakfast whilst your caterer is trying to make organise your reception meal in your kitchen? And Bob and Joe (your FI's college roommates) getting into the champagne for the toasts etc.

     
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    MissBananaBread    October 26, 2013   Birmingham, MI

    @j_jaye:  This would be my worry too.  Not only will they be messing around with the venue, but you might not get as much privacy to get ready before the wedding, or spend time with your husband after it.

    If you're sure you want to rent out part of the venue, I'd maybe put an 'accommodations' section on your website and say something like, "Rooms at the venue itself are available for _______.  This price includes ______.  You can also try [local hotel]."  This way it seems more like a hotel kinda thing and less like you're asking them to help pay for your venue.

     
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    Stephie07    November 3, 2012  

    @julies1949 There will probably be a total of 26 guests at the actual wedding so most of my guest will fit on the property.  Only 4 of them will be family and we will not be making the family pay.  We have a small family and a small group of really close friends.  We wanted to keep it very intimate and as stress free and possible.

    @j_jaye I'm totally concerned about the that also! We will all arrive on Thursday and the wedding will be on Saturday.  I am hoping that most of my friends go out on Saturday to venture the island but I am not sure how to ask people to leave at a certain time so that we can set up.  This will be kind of awkward... I agree!

    I forgot to mention that we will also be providing an all-inclusive island tour the day before the wedding day.  We will be renting a bus to take us around the island and finish off at Waikiki beach to take the sunset cruise right before sunset.  This will be probably the day before the wedding and will be included in the cost to stay at the house.

    I think it's a good idea to give some other options for people to stay at but we researched hotels in the area and they range from $90-$300 per night@ ECK! So expensive.

    Thanks for your help bees!! I'm at the beginning stages of my wedding and I am excited to plan with all you ladies. Kiss

     
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    abbie017    March 16, 2013  

    @Stephie07:  I don't think you can ask your guests to leave the day of the wedding to set up, because they're going to need to get ready too.  I think it might end up being a lot of trouble to do it this way, but it could also be really fun to have everyone in the same place!  Tough call!

     
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    Miss Orchard    September 8, 2012   Cambridge, MA

    I think its perfectly okay for guests to pay for their own accomodations at a destination wedding, however, I don't think its appropriate for you to be the intermediary for that payment. It would be better if it were a hotel and they could call in and pay seperately and you could set it up like a room block as opposed to collecting money directly from guests. I agree with MissBananaBreaad, too.

     
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    atalante    May 19, 2012  

    I can see the etiquette sticking point here, but let me just say... personally, if I were a guest in this situation, I would be Super appreciative of this option and totally fine with mailing a check to the bride.

     
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    HappierKate    September 29, 2012  

    If I were a guest I would be happy with this too.  Is there anyone at the estate who could take the money directly, or anyone in your wedding party who is willing to act as the middleman (someone that everyone will trust)?

     
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    Treejewel19    May 18, 2012   Sonoma County, CA

    @j_jaye:  Personally I would pay for the accommodation since it is technically the venue for your wedding and I would feel rude asking guests to contribute to that.

    Agreed.

    I feel the same and in fact we are doing the same thing and we are paying for the accomodations the night before and day of the wedding.

    As for the combining of your guests and the staff on the day of I wouldn't be too concerned. If the venue is professional and is used to this sort of set up I'm sure they have their designated spaces for guests and their locations to work without interfering with the day's requirements. Our venue has a seperate eating/kitchen area for the caterer versus where the guests sleep, stay, and eat.


     
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    LibertyBelle    October 2013  

    I'm possibly running into a very similar situation with the same island.  Granted, we haven't officially committed to anything yet, but it's one of the ideas on the table for us.

    If we go this route, we'll be paying for our stay as well as that of our parents.  If the house we opt for holds more than that, then I did debate whether it was appropriate to offer up the additional rooms for a "fee" that would be a bargain to guests, but in line with the expense.  Ultimately, I had a gut check that is very much in line with what Miss Orchard and j_jaye have pointed out.

    To be honest, it kind of puts that plan off to me.  I don't want to be seen as asking guests to help pay for the wedding that I have invited them to, and that's kind of what I'd be asking if the house is also going to be the venue.  On the other hand, I would jump at the opportunity as a guest, so I don't think it's completely unreasonable.

    My suggestion, and something I have talked about as a possibility with my mom, is that if we go this route with far more space than what we will actually need, I may have her end up being the "contact" and the person with whom to make plans to stay in that house.  That way it would be presented as she's renting a house with more space than we would take up and if others wanted a relatively low cost place to stay with other members of the party, they are welcome to work with her.  We, of course, would reimburse her for the house expenses for us, her with her plus one, and the future in-laws.  However, in all likelihood, we'll opt for a house that holds the number we need it to hold and it won't actually be an issue.

    As for issues setting up, that's just going to depend on you and your vision for how the wedding will look and what you need.  If we end up choosing this option and end up with a house that's got more rooms than what we need, I know my vision is so simple that it really won't matter that other guests are there.  But, if you've got something even slightly elaborate in mind, it could be very busy around the house on the day you should otherwise be relaxed.

    Also, fair word of warning that I think you need to communicate with guests if you offer them this deal: A house may "sleep" 22, but may not have very many bedrooms.  If you're basically charging people about $100/night (which is only slightly cheaper than B&Bs on the island and more expensive than some hotel options), then they will not be pleased if they are on a sleeper sofa in the middle of a living room with two other couples on sofas around them.  Even if someone is "fine" with sleeping on a sofa in a public space, someone who has paid for a room probably isn't going to be thrilled and there's another guest in his or her pjs when they go downstairs in the morning.  This also doesn't address the bathroom issue that could arise.

    Ultimately, I'm not saying you shouldn't do it.  So much of it depends on your guests and your plans for the event. However, if you do it, I would advise treading VERY carefully down this road.  There's the etiquette issue of possibly being seen as helping foot the bill for the venue you picked while also concerns about expectations for the price.

     
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    TXbrideFW    May 27, 2012  

    IMO, this sounds like I bad idea. The reasons:

    1. inappropriate to take pmt from guests for your wedding.

    2. It's your wedding venue. See number 1.

    3. Asking that many people to stay in a house together (who may or may not all know each other) is awkward.You just don't know what the dynamics of the group will be.

    4. Not sure if all of your guests actually live in HI, but if not, then they are probably spending a pretty penny to go...so let them make their own trip of it.

    5. It sounds rude to ask guests to leave the venue so you can get ready. After all, they are paying to stay there as well.

    6. Asking $400 per couple and $250 per single of your guests is rude imo. Since you are setting the price, you should make it equal for everyone.I dont think it is very nice to charge someone $50 extra because they are single.

    7. As pp stated, just because a house can sleep 22 people doesn't mean much. You could have couples sleeping in a room in a bunk bed, people sleeping on a couch, etc.

    I really just think this sounds like a disaster. I would maybe limit the number of guests but make it an option for any who want to stay. 20 people is a whole lot of people to keep happy. You would be the host it seems, and it would also be a lot of added stress on you for your wedding.

    So, those are my opinions about it.

     

     
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    SubmarinersBride    June 16, 2012  

    Personally, I would be ok with it.  If I was told no kitchen access after X time so the caterers could use it, then ok, no problem.  Well, no problem as long as I can get to a coffee pot or a stash of sodas, lol.  I'm on a budget, so I would totally stay at the house if it was cheap enough, and would mail the bride a check.

     
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    Lexy    January 15, 2012  

    My thought is: If no one is sharing the house with you, would you still use it as a venue? In that case you're asking people to chip in for the cost of your venue, not for lodging.

    On the other hand, if you're getting this venue specifically so all your friends can stay with you and have a party, then it seems reasonable to ask them to chip in.

    I realize that distinction is a little murky, but I think it's important.

     
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    HappierKate    September 29, 2012  

    @Lexy:  I think that makes a lot of sense; it's like staying at the hotel your guests are at the night before your wedding (especially if a wedding event is held at the hotel), only it'll be cheaper for your guests than area hotels for the same number of days.

    One problem though: what if guests can't come up for the entire length of the get-together but still want to lodge there?  Are they going to pay the same for 1 or 2 nights that other guests pay for 3 nights?

     
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    BirdofaFeather    April 10, 2010   San Diego, CA

    @Stephie07:  we were guests/bridesmaids/photographer at a friend's wedding in maui this past summer and this is EXACTLY what we did. it was a blast staying on the property with everyone (all bridal party and immediate family) and it was a great deal to stay beachside and not have to eat out every day. since all the girls were getting ready at the house anyway, it just made sense and logistics were SO much easier. our friend just broke up the costs per night each person was staying (some people made other plans for other nights). some people had to bunk on air mattresses for a night or two, but then they got their own room for the nights other people were gone.

    i think it just depends on your group as we were all pretty tight knit and we all were laid back about it. it was a pitch in and help kind of wedding too, so it made us feel included that we were actually at the property instead of off site and having to spend time there anyway.

    also $50~ per night per person is not that much, especially including food! your guests would be hard pressed to find a better deal and something as close i'm sure!

     
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    msfahrenheit    August 28, 2011   Blacksburg VA

    I think this could work out really well for you and the guests. I don't think it's like charging guests for your wedding because it's DW. They would have to stay somewhere, at least if they decide to stay in the house they will save a lot of money on lodging and food. Also, I'm assuming that since it's a small wedding, you and/or FI are very close to everyone invited. Make sure you are upfront with everyone about the living arrangements in the house, so they can make other plans if they are uncomfortable.

    One concern is about setting up on the day of the wedding. Make sure you talk to the venue to ensure they know how to handle it.

     

     
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    LibertyBelle    October 2013  

    Another thing you need to factor in if you do decide to rent out the extra space is parking.  Even some of the larger homes have limited parking.  I think the most parking I've found at a rental house was 5 spaces, and I know I wouldn't be comfortable trying to parallel park in what they considered the three space section - especially in a rental where I could be on the hook for bumps and scrapes by others.  Even if there's a big driveway, are people going to have to shuffle cars for one another to get out?  That could be another issue with many rentals in one space.

    If you make the offer, I do think you also need to rethink the prices.  I know most people are looking at it as $50/person/night with all meals included, but that's not really the proper comparison.  If you have a couple coming to stay with you, they are paying $100/night which is in line with budget hotels and bed and breakfasts on the island.

    Let's face it, unless they plan on spending the day on the beach outside of the house, they are likely only eating one meal at the house - breakfast.  Even though we planned to keep our costs down by eating in, we rarely did.  Due to the time difference, we were always out early to beat the Oahu traffic and didn't come in until fairly late in the day because we were out experiencing Hawaii.  If you expect your guests to do that, then the food won't be eaten beyond grabbing something on the way out the door.

    Really, what's on the table for a couple is to save just a bit over what they could pay elsewhere while possibly having to share a bathroom, maybe not have a private room, and have to work around venue set up.  For a single traveler, it's a much better deal.  Single travelers will also probably be more flexible about shared spaces, too.  However, single travelers may mean more cars...

    Depending on where you and your guests are coming from, that could also make a big difference in how you all get along in one house.  I know that we didn't allow ourselves to get too used to the time difference.  We woke up right around dawn almost every day, which was still the equivilant of sleeping until 11:30am at home.  Using our time wisely, we would enjoy slightly empty streets to get to whichever corner of the island we wanted to target each day before the parking lot formed on the interstate.  Some people may want to shift to island time, in which case, noises around the house and lights being turned on may be a bigger problem.

     

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