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Aussie weddings and +1 expectations?

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    pohget    September 18, 2011   Australia

    I need some help from the Aussie bees out there, as I have never been to a wedding before and don't know the expectations that people have about weddings and +1s.

    The story: The recently sent out my invitations. Last night, a friend of mine who I invited, posted a status update about needing a date for a wedding (our wedding). I was a little taken aback. I know she doesn't have a boyfriend, so I clearly addressed the invitation to her only. But it seems everyone has this expectation that they can just bring a random with them because it's a wedding. She will know many other people that are attending.

    Even FI seemed to think that everyone would get a +1. I just thought it would be obvious that you don't just bring any old random to a wedding! All girl/boyfriends, no matter the length of time they have been together have been invited by name. We are only inviting 50 people, and are only expecting 40ish to come, and I don't want any of those 40 to be people I don't even know, who are clearly not coming because they want to see us get married!

    So is this just some Aussie expectation that I am unaware of? I admit that my entire knowledge of weddings is based on what I have learnt from the internet, so I really have no idea what others expect.

     
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    Bears-bub    July 21, 2012   Perth, Australia

    Hey hun, I am still a little bit away from sending invites, but as we have a small venue (60 people max) we have already made a rough guest list. Initially I did give everyone a +1 as I just assumed that it was rude not to, but have since removed them as the list was getting too large. I asked my mum about it and she was adamant that I invite only people who I know (and like) and as long as the person with no +1 likes who they are sitting with it will be ok.

    I have 4 people with no +1 and one person who knows they are invited already asked if they could bring someone and I have already said no. I think the other people will be ok to come by themselves.

    Personally if I recieved an invite for just myself I would call and ask if a +1 was allowed as I wouldnt want to rock up alone (that is the crux of the issue methinks), but if they said no I wouldnt care. I would just find a couple/family to tag along with! Your guest really should have called you to clarify before asking randoms on facebook to be her date!

     
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    pohget    September 18, 2011   Australia

    So is it just expected in Australia that a wedding invitation includes a +1 always?

     

    Hmmm, I guess it's just me who thinks it's strange.

    I never would have thought that, unless you know nobody else, it would ever be necessary or appropriate to bring along a random to a small wedding.

    Boyfriends, girlfriends, partners, even people you are seeing casually are all fine. Advertising on facebook for someone to bring, is not.

    I am only inviting my 6 closest friends, and she knows all but 1 of them. If I wanted more people there I would invite people I actually know.

    Eh. I guess I just don't get it.

     
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    MissHobbit      

    @pohget:

    I have been guilty of the sin of bringing a random to a wedding before. Oh the things I know now! My only defense is that I was, young, in college, and didn't realize how inconsiderate I was being.

     
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    Roux    December 2, 2012   Ballarat, Australia

    I dont think plus 1s are expected, I've been given plus 1 before when I was single and didn't know anyone else at the wedding.

    We are giving plus 1s to people in relationships, or who don't know anyone else. But a group of single friends who know each other won't get plus 1s.

     

     
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    pohget    September 18, 2011   Australia

    @Roux: Ok good, so I'm not just some terrible mean person then! This is exactly our rule with +1s.

    It just seems that everyone I have talked to thinks that every wedding invitiation is an invitation for 2, regardless of whether it is mentioned that they can bring a guest or not. Like it is just a given. And I had no idea of this expectation. Even before I started wedding planning, I never would have thought an invitation to me would mean I could bring someone else with me uninvited.

    I feel that this is going to be my one and only Bridezilla issue! I am having a small wedding because I don't want to pay $100+ for people I don't REALLY like to have afternoon tea, dinner, cake, dessert, a chair and free alcohol on us, AND the fact that I am not comfortable being the centre of attention and really don't like the thought of lots of people staring at me all day!

     

    *deep breaths*

     
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    Roux    December 2, 2012   Ballarat, Australia

    Ugh, I know what you mean. One of my friends wants to bring he brand new boyfriend. Like she wants a guarantee right now that he is invited. I'm like if you are still together this time next year, then yes, definately invited, but the wedding is 16 months away! She also wants to bring her baby, who will be 2 by then. Adults are $125 per head, and Children are $50, thats a lot of money for her requests.

     
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    OzToCaBride    September 2012   NSW, Australia, getting married in Santa Cruz, CA

    Although I'm not Aussie, I've lived here for awhile and been to lots of weddings. When we had been dating for about a year, one of the Aussie's friends was getting married and my name wasn't on the invite since I had only met the couple once or twice before so I think this may just be a situation of a clueless friend in your case.  The Aussie knew that my name or an "and Guest" not on the invite meant he shouldn't bring a date. Good luck breaking it to her gently!

     
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    jaguar    June 11, 2011  

    No, I wouldn't expect it - and I think your guest might just be reading into it.

    You might want to awkwardly break it to her, especially if numbers are tight. I'm sure it's innocent, especially if she doesn't HAVE a date she already wants to bring/you know to invite.

     
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    bali_y    June 12, 2010  

    I've had to write on the RSVP for guests to please only RSVP for those on the invite as we are having a very small wedding like you and also don't want people we don't know there. I'm sure some people would think this is rude but the reason we are having a small wedding is to be close to everyone there.

     
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    peppy    September 17, 2011   Australia

    We are only having a small wedding too. We invited partners along, even if we hadn't yet met them, but didn't give the option for singles to bring a mate or something.

     
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    Miss Sydney    September 3, 2011   Sydney, Australia

    I would go with a definite no on the plus one. If you have already invited all those people who are in a relationship then you are perfectly ok!

    I dont think that singles in australia should expect a +1 invite, that just isnt really done here, definitely not in my circle of friends.

    Good luck with the girl though!

     
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    aussie chick    September 17, 2011  

    @pohget

    No - there is no "unwritten" rule that you get a plus one.

    Mind you - no matter what you do you will offend someone.

     
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    Roux    December 2, 2012   Ballarat, Australia

    @aussie chick: Hey newbee! Great to see another Aussie on the boards! Where are you from?

     
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    lisha_1988    November 3, 2012   Perth, Australia

    I cant see a problem with saying no plus ones!
    We have such tight numbers that we have had to even cut out some peoples partners (like the ones that have on and off not serious partners that are more FWB set ups) I figure if u dont put their name on the invite then they arent invited.

     
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    Ariande    June 23, 2012   Sydney

    Bah we're having this same problem and some people are just assuming that their invite is for 2... We don't care so much about having unknown randoms there, it's that we literally cannot afford them. We had to be right with invited as it is, we're not paying for someone's new  BF when actual friends of ours can't come!

     
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    Ariande    June 23, 2012   Sydney

    *tight

     
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    lisha_1988    November 3, 2012   Perth, Australia

    We're not having +1's without an invite nor are we having kids at the reception!!! 

    Im just going to be firm with anyone to adds a +1 to their RSVP and say just no! We are having limited friends as it is so not wasting the invite someone I don't know. Maybe talk to your friend and explain?

     
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    j_jaye    September 21, 2011  

    In Australian wedding etiquette it is customary to give anyone who considers themselves in a relationship a plus one and courtsey to give singles a plus one if they do not know anyone else. But in some circles it is customary to give everyone a plus one. We gave everyone a plus one because that is what is polite to do in our circle.

     

     
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    Firie    September 21, 2012   Australia

    I would never assume that I coiuld bring a random ring in to a wedding if they werent listed on the invite.  But I would also think twice about attending a wedding where I was invited and my FI wasn't.

    I am not giving out random plus ones for my wedding.  We are keeping it small on purpose.  And we are having kids, I love kids at weddings.  But not everyone's random children.  I am inviting the children of friends that I know well, and socialise with a lot. 

    I have been very strict on our guestlist.  I am not inviting Aunties, Uncles and Cousins who never try to catch up with me.  Some of my Aunts and Uncles have never even met my own children (the oldest of which is 4).

    I am also putting a FAQ section on my website, which explains why we have taken thia stance on the guest list, and why we are only having a very small wedding.

     
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    I'm Australian. As a single person, I was invited to four weddings and I never assumed nor was I given a +1, even when I didn't know anyone else. I quite happily mingled and met people. I think people who assume they've got a +1 are probably a bit clueless and basing their assumption off what they've seen on film and TV! I'd give your friend a call and say something along the lines of, "I'm just checking that you received the invitation to our wedding, and I wanted to let you know that I'm sorry we weren't able to give you a plus one, but we have very limited space at the venue." That way you make it clear that she doesn't have a plus one, without accusing her of anything. Are you absolutely certain she was talking about your wedding?

     
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    ms.sara    March 23, 2013   Sydney, Australia

    Hello! I'm an Australian bee.

    I have never assumed that a +1 is a given, as everybody has said. If the guest is in a long term relationship then they would be invited, but not just 'a date'. I would only make exceptions for some of my really close friends (BM's or MOH, who are all single), or a friend that comes from a different 'group' e.g a uni friend who wouldn't know any other guests.

    I've always thought that it is really rude to assume that you can bring somebody who isn't explicitly invited. I think you're only likely to get that sort of thing from people who have never been involved in wedding planning - They don't know the stress!

    Goodluck with your sticky situation.

     
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    ms.sara    March 23, 2013   Sydney, Australia

    Oh wow. I suck. Just realised how old this thread is hahaha.

     

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