Australian government to offer marriage counselling: thought?

posted 3 years ago in The Lounge
  • poll: Is this a good decision by the Australian government?
    Yes, it will help a lot : (3 votes)
    12 %
    Yeah, I suppose : (3 votes)
    12 %
    No, not really : (6 votes)
    23 %
    No way! : (12 votes)
    46 %
    Other (please explain below) : (0 votes)
    I will use the service : (0 votes)
    I won't use the service : (2 votes)
    8 %
  • Post # 3
    Member
    671 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: September 2014

    @MadsTheGallifreyan:  I agree, I think it will end up being a waste of money. But hey, I hope I get some of that waste of money! I never seem to get a cent from the Govt, and all my friends do (not that I’m owed anything, I’m just saying… not fair!). 🙂

    Post # 4
    Hostess
    7630 posts
    Bumble Beekeeper
    • Wedding: January 2013

    I’m curious, what does a $200 voucher get a couple? One session?

    Post # 5
    Member
    193 posts
    Blushing bee

    @AlwaysSunny:  Yep. Maybe two. Realistically, it is not going to do a damn thing to make marriages stronger and that $20 mil would be better spent giving vouchers to people with mental health issues. It just seems like a really strange thing to focus on when our Prime Minister is out making all these budget cuts to really important things, like welfare and medicare. Not sure if you are Aussie, but Tony Abbott just comes of as the sterotyped privileged, old, white politician. He is more focussed on ‘preserving the sanctity of marriage’ than he is about, you know, helping people. Gah. Can’t stand him 😛

    Post # 6
    Member
    7410 posts
    Busy Beekeeper

    Just another Abott government ploy to keep women married, barefoot and pregnant.

    There are already lots of free or low cost counselling services available to everyone, not just newlyweds, so why not pump the money into those services.

    So in the last few weeks Aboot is suggesting-

    – handouts to newlyweds

    – importing Nannies from Asia to be paid $200/wk, room & board & a return airfare home with 2 weeks holiday per year to sort out the lack of childcare problem

    -health checks at your pharmacy rather than at a doctors

    – selling off Australia Post and Medibank

    – lowering salaries to sustain business but no mention of lowering consumer costs (so earn less but still pay the same for everything which will move the middle class to lower class and lower class to below poverty line)

    – a witch hunt of unions with a royal commission in an attempt to get rid of them so they can lower pay and rights for workers

    – getting rid of pensions (old age, veterans, disability)

    Welcome to the liberal government.

    Post # 7
    Member
    830 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: April 2014

    @MadsTheGallifreyan:  What a waste of money. They’d get more out of it by using it to educate young people on healthy relationships/respect/etc., that way it prevents people from needing marriage counselling in the first place.

    The other stuff you mentioned would be a much better way to spend the money too.

    Post # 8
    Member
    7410 posts
    Busy Beekeeper

    @ksus07:  A respectful relationships program in year 10/11/12 would be a much better use of the money and would cost a hell of a lot less. And that way it could cover more than just life partnerships but family and friendship relationships and respecting strangers as well.

     

    Post # 9
    Member
    193 posts
    Blushing bee

    @j_jaye:  ‘importing Nannies from Asia to be paid $200/wk, room & board & a return airfare home with 2 weeks holiday per year to sort out the lack of childcare problem’

    Whoa, whoa, whoa. How did I miss that one? Article?

    I like the idea of a ‘respectful relationships’ class or something though. 

    I honestly cannot stand him or any of his policies. Just… gah! Backwards, racist and misogynistic. So ashamed he is our PM 🙁 Wouldn’t be surprised if he tried to bring Workchoices or something like that back in either. 

    Post # 10
    Member
    7410 posts
    Busy Beekeeper

    @outofideas:  It was in both the age and hearld sun yesterday (Sat). Blew my mind.

    Post # 11
    Member
    526 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: December 2014

    @MadsTheGallifreyan:  I think that’s crazy, and I would be ticked if my government did that instead of dealing with more important issues like mental health and hungry children… What a waste… 

    Is premarital counselling required in Australia? If not, maybe they should try implementing that instead. It’s not “required” where I live, but if you do it, your marriage license is free.

    Post # 12
    Member
    193 posts
    Blushing bee

    @j_jaye:  Whoa. Thanks. Googled the article. My mind is appropriately blown. Cannot believe that is his ‘solution’ to lack of childcare :/

    Post # 13
    Member
    7410 posts
    Busy Beekeeper

    @outofideas:  Well I think his real solution for lack of childcare is to get women out of the workplace and to stay at home but I guess this is his back up plan. I mean he only has one woman in his cabinet and she acts more like a man than a women anyhow.

    Post # 14
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    619 posts
    Busy bee
    • Wedding: October 2014

    I know a lot of his policies are really unpopular (and don’t get me started on his stance on same sex marriage), but we need a Liberal government to counteract the workforce focused, big money policies of the previous Labor gov’t. As much as politics polarises people, we need to have that juxtaposition (awesome word btw) to achieve a good balance of policy for the people, and policy for the economy.

     

    On topic: the marriage counselling thing seems a bit silly. One session wouldn’t be enough to make a lasting impression. It would be better off spent on putting a bullet train between Sydney and Canberra 😉

    Post # 15
    Member
    193 posts
    Blushing bee

    @j_jaye:  And he is the *self-appointed* minister for women! HAH! (And also ew). Because, seriously, only a man could know what is best for women. Blergh. 

    Post # 16
    Member
    193 posts
    Blushing bee

    @alsgirl:  The thing is though, they really weren’t ‘big money policies’. Given the GFC, Australia’s economy under Labour did very well. The ‘out of control spending’ was all just a marketing spin of Abbott. In one of his pamphlets, he had graphs showing how when labour came in, Australia’s economy massively dropped and we were suddenly in debt and isn’t it just terrible how they spend so much money? But the date the graph showed the massive drop? 2008- when the GFC occured. And compared to other countries affected by the GFC, we came out relatively unscathed. It was all just stats warped to fit his purposes. He basically lied   heavily manipulated the facts when he went on about how much debt we are in and how terrible it is, but most people just went ‘oh shoot, that is really bad’ and voted him in because who wants to be in debt? Most people do not go out and look into the stats. I don’t think most people agree with most of his policies lol. None that I really know, anyway. I think he just got in because of that. 

     

    I mean, I do sort of agree with your idea that we need the contrast for a good balance but that only holds true if the policies he is bringing in are also good (but things labour wouldn’t do). 

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