(Closed) Avoiding Foods??

posted 6 years ago in Pregnancy
Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

The whole “people have been born for centuries” thing irks me. I think it’s used as  a cop-out to to what you want.

I’m not saying everyone needs to be like me, but I was pretty srtict in avoiding “potential” risky foods. I figured it was not too much to ask of my future child to sacrifice certain things to help ensure she be healthy.

Anywho some of the things that cannot be consumed and why (that I can think of off my head):

Caffeine: can cause heart issues among other things. It does cross the placenta and effect the baby.

Ice cream (soft serve): the risk here is listeria. It’s thought that the parts of the machine cannot be adequately cleaned to prevent it.

Deli meats: main concern is listeria. The nitrtates are awful for anyone, even not pregnant. They’re increase cancer risk by a pretty decent amount.

Soft cheeses: also a listeria risk. Im not sure about the US, but in Canada, nearly all soft cheses must be pateurized, so it’s not so much a risk here.

Sushi/rare meats: heavy metal(fish) and bacteria risk.

Post # 4
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@urchin: i agree about that phrase being thrown around. have we forgotten how common it was that mothers and children died during chilbirth (as compared to today)?

Post # 5
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2012

When I was born in the 70s people weren’t dying from childbirth any more than today. I agree to some extent that we know more now so minimizing certain risks makes sense but my doctor doesn’t agree with avoiding any of these foods so I have to think that some people are just being extra cautious.  But to each their own.  Information is important and if you want to assess your risks and avoid certain things, super. If you feel the risk is so miniscule that it is ok with you, super.

Post # 6
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: August 2010

1 in every 3 pregnancies ends is miscarriage. They are now finding links between food products that are causing some miscarriages. So it’s just how much so you want to take the chance of losing your baby. Yes deli meats, soft cheeses, etc. won’t harm you or your baby but if they are contaminated your health is at risk and your child will most likely die. So I just ask myself do I need X so bad that I would be okay if I lost my baby because of it and my answer is always no.

Most things you cannot eat aren’t neccesarily linked to having an unhealthy baby but of having a miscarriage or still born. If you look back in our parents generations they had much higher rates of these due to uneducation.

Post # 7
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: June 2012

In a lot of cases these foods to avoid aren’t going to necessarily kill you or your unborn child (except in the case of listeriosis). It’s the potential they have to cause harm, birth defects, etc.

We have no way in knowing that the heart problems some babies have may be caused by the caffiene their mother drank while pregnant, or neurological disorders were caused by mercury content.

The other day I heard that non-organic produce consumed during pregnancy drastically increases the risk for ADHD-like symptoms.

There’s no real way in knowing whether or not issues are caused right away or later in life as well. These foods are on a precautionary list for a reason. To each their own, but I tried to take advantage of the things I could control when I was pregnant.

Post # 8
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Bumble bee
  • Wedding: November 2013

I’m another one who HATES the “people have been being born fine for ~”

Still birth rates have been historically higher. As have miscarriage rates. Also, these are things which INCREASE risk, don’t guarentee problems. Therefore, they may not harm you or your child. This doesn’t negate the risk.

 

Post # 9
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Busy Beekeeper

i also avoid those foods for the most part.  My doctor is also very lax and has said to me more than once “if you avoid all the foods you are not supposed to eat, you wouldn’t be able to eat anything”.  So i just decided for myself based on the level and type of risk what to avoid.  For example, I choose to avoid all foods that could *potentially* have it (listed above) because i read that listeria can be harmful enough to kill the fetus – to me i don’t want to take that risk and it seemed like something you could get from eating one bad thing that has listeria in it.  

On the contrary, one single glass on wine on rare occasions will not cause fetal alcohol syndrome, so i have had one single glass of wine every couple of months throughout my pregnancy and I am not worried.  I would never dare drink more than one glass in one sitting or have one glass several times a week – that is what i read could be harmful.  Same for the caffeine, I read and was told by my doctor not to go over a certain amount (200 mg per day) and everything should be fine – no risk – so i have my one coffee a day and i am not worried.  sometimes i have a green tea too as i know the one i buy only has 20mg. And i have diet pepsi and chocolate. I just monitor how much i have each day (when i first got pregnant, i looked up the caffeine content in everything!).

Post # 10
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

@thenextmrsi:  

I think that everyone is getting a bit too paranoid and breaking these “rules” is just fine. Kids have been coming out fine for centuries… In my mind there is no need to be so careful. Not eating steak?? Really?? Ice Cream?? Really??

Of course my thoughts might change once I am TTC, but that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!


So, you’re making uninformed decisions – you have no idea why these restrictions exist, but you’ve already formed an uneducated opinion that they’re nonsense?

I’m not pregnant or TCC.  I don’t really have a dog in this fight, but it comes off sort of off for you to be all “I have no idea what I’m talking about, but I’m stickin’ to it!” in my opinion.

Now, if you do the research and conclude it’s all nonsense or you think you should be more lax in restrictions, that’s a whole other deal & still perfectly fine.

Post # 11
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: December 2011

I think there is a happy median somewhere. There is a lot of “research” from a lot of places that is full of it, but there is also a lot of good, heavily researched information about things that can increase risks for birth defects/miscarriage ect. But I don’t think that your one small coffee every few days or that soft serve cone is going to instantly kill you and your baby.

There is a reason safety recommendations change as time goes on. We figure out things we used to think is okay (uhhh castor oil to induce labor….) aren’t really that great for you, and things that we used to think were totally 100% off limits (alcohol in very controlled quanities) that aren’t going to just cause major defects if you have a tiny bit.

Personally, whenever I am pregnant, I will try to avoid the things suggested just because with my baby, I am more likely to be paranoid than on most things in my life. But at the same time, I don’t hate on anyone who doesn’t follow the same belief or if I HAVE to have that bite of cookie dough, I’m not going to beat myself up.

I think the key here is to do the research, from well trusted, legit sources not any old website that claims to know stuff about pregnancy, and determine with your provider what you personally are comfortable with.

Post # 12
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: September 2013

@chasesgirl:  Agreed on all fronts.

Post # 14
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: October 2013

I’m actually quite glad to have come here and learned about these things. I was not even aware of what listeria WAS until reading things here!

 

It’s hard for me to let go of sushi… but I will do it during pregnancy. But there WILL be a super sushi feast as soon as possible!!

Post # 15
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: August 2011

i think it really depends. i’ve been eating a lot of things not recommended during pregnancy but i think it makes a huge difference whether you get meat for example from a butcher you know and trust, or industrially produced meat that could be contaminated with anything… and i also believe that in small (small!) quantities coffee and even a sip of wine here and there aren’t the end of the world… if you realy try sticking to all the food rules, there won’t be anything left on the menu! and then there are the pregnancy cravings :-).

Post # 16
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: October 2016

When I was pregnant, the only thing I really stayed away from was blue cheese, deli cheese, some deli style foods/cold cuts, raw meat and certain fish. I always heated everything up so it was very very hot to kill germs. 

My son turned pretty okay! 

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