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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    This is my experience with this seller.

    She is very good about deleting negative comments and blocking people who say bad things about her...

     

    I ordered my dress from an etsy seller- your fairytale wedding also known as Angels Bridal and Photography online
    they had just gotten an award from onewed.com and the comments seem so great, including a great facebook group and honestly she was very prompt with my email questions and everything.... but as soon as i paid, it was like pulling teeth to get her to acknowledge me.

    it states in her original contract that she will not even start on a dress until you submit the contract. I did not have a working scanner so I emailed her a photocopy of the contract on my phone and asked if that was ok... no answer, so I assumed that it was. A few weeks later I received a blank contract in the mail. So i fill it out and send it in the self addressed envelope.

    As my wedding date got closer I started to get worried as I have not heard anything or seen a sketch of my dress which she said is listed in her policy on her website. They state on their policy that they do not contact the client after the dress has been started and that they also only mail out twice a month. As my wedding is at the end of the month (10 DAYS FROM NOW), I was worried and emailed them last week to find out that they do not have my contract! I asked why they didn't tell me (I assumed that they received the mailed copy) and they said it was my responsibility to make sure that it was in. How would I know?!? I emailed another photo of the contract... two days later no answer thru email/phone. FInally they tell me that they have to have a scanned copy only and no they do not have a faxed machine....

    So we finally get it scanned. I know my dress is ready to go, so I ask to pay extra for overnight shipping. I ask for a tracking number and they can't mail it because they did not receive the email with the scanned copy! I reforward it to them (for the 4th time in two days) and she tells me that she is going home for the day and will have to mail it out on MONDAY (May 16th). ok... I ask that she please remember that I submitted a change of address form and to mail it to that address.

    It was mailed on Monday and it is now Thursday and I have not gotten my dress! When I check the tracking... she mailed it to my old address. When I ask her about it, she says that she can not be expected to sort through loads of emails when I should have notified them three months ago (before I moved) of my address change.

    And... the dress she made was not the one that I ordered. She made it wrong but told me that even though I sent her a picture, she has some artistic license to do what she wants.

    Can't leave a facebook post because after my email about the dress being wrong, they deleted my off the group. and it's too late for paypal and etsy.

     
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    adw2c    June 2011  

    That is horrible! I can't believe she put you through such a thing and to get the wrong dress!!! Its even worse that she won't allow you to give negative feedback. My first online purchase was a negative experience and I had the same problem through ebay and paypal. There is very little we brides can do for these orders through paypal, ebay, or etsy. It sucks because we feel that its or safety net.

    I hope the rest of your wedding experience will be nice. What wil you do now?

     
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    Zinzerena    April 14, 2012   Virginia

    @sunnysunday: yikes! So so sorry you're going through this!!!  It's EXACTLY why I made my FI put in an ebay complaint before the time was up. I was soooo afraid I'd get screwed out of the money and dress!

    Were you able to get the dress, despite it being mailed to the wrong address?  Maybe you can sell it and get some of your money back.  I'd definitely contact onewed.com and inform them of what happened (if possible) and even the BBB!!! 

     

     
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    futuremrshc    June 25, 2011  

    How is it too late for paypal? She sent it to the wrong address, meaning you don't have it. If you don't have the item, you don't pay for it. Meaning that you can dispute the charge with Paypal. Do that ASAP.

     
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    ejm1287    August 5, 2011   Maine

    Did you pay with a credit card through PayPal? If so, you can do a chargeback with the credit card company I believe

     
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    CrystalBlackheart    September 10, 2011  

    I'm sorry you've had such a bad experience.  If you purchased through etsy and paid via paypal you should definitely seek some recourse.  And if you're not getting what you want, then you should leave an appropriate review on Etsy - sellers have no control over what is said or seen on their profiles.

    I've only had good experiences with Angela.  Needless to say I decided against getting my own dress made online (b/c of my own body image issues).  Angela had been nothing but professional with me.  I did refer her to my best friend and my bf has been absolutely chuffed with her work.  I know that she will not do exact replicas, which I think is really respectable because it's not an honest way to run a business or to branch out as an artist. 

    I also feel bad that she didn't contact you in a timely manner, and I don't mean to sound contrary, but why would you even try sending a camera phone image of a contract to a wedding vendor and think that it was OK?

     
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    Laura27       Oklahoma

    Wow.  I was considering having a custom dress made and she was the one that I was probably going to go with if I decided to go that route.  Buying a dress online that I can't see makes me super nervous....her lack of communication with you pretty much has made up my mind.  Thanks for the review!

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    @CrystalBlackheart: I wasn't sure that she would take the picture (which she didn't) but I was so scared that my dress wouldn't get made. In her policies, it states that she will not even get started on a dress with out the contract so i thought...i couldn't lose anything. i also thought that she received my contract in the mail... which she didn't.

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    hey guys,

    I did receive my dress but it's too late for alterations since it's the middle of wedding season.

    I will admit that the dress is lovely. There are some wonky thing with it though- the back hem is too short and the front is too long but I think that I am the only one who notices.

    Also, the dress is not even close to what I wanted!

    It has the pleats (which I hate) that makes my look a little fat... grrr.

     

    On another note, Angela sent me an email threatening me with her lawyer because I filed a payapl claim for the $50.00 extra shipping that I sent her. She says I am not entitled to a refund now because I left a negative review on her.

    I have contacted esty and paypal regarding this.

    For your money's worth, I still recommend going to another dressmaker- my experience is only getting worse with her.

     

     

     
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    Silentlove    May 19, 2013   West Virginia

    @sunnysunday: Wow, she threatened you with a lawyer?? Are you serious? I'd stick to my guns if I were you. I know one thing, I will not use her, and I saw 2 negative's but only one negative comment on her entire page, so did she delete the other one and is working on deleting the remaining negative comment????

     
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    irin997    June 18, 2011   Maryland

    Oh my goodness, so what are you doing for a dress?

     
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    Laura27       Oklahoma

    Would you mind posting a pic? 

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    it is a lovely dress. not my dream dress but it is nice.

    it's a bit wonky in some places and i still hate pleats (in general). it puffs out when it's on.

    at this point, i have no choice since my wedding is 5 days away. it is too late to file with Paypal so I am tight on money.

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    @Silentlove: yeah, she was really mad that i posted negative reviews on her. it wasn't about the dress per se but more her lack of communication.

    she has changed her website and seller name before so i think that she has had issue prior to me. if you look at her policy page, it is crazy- like someone who has had a lot of problem.

     
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    Laura27       Oklahoma

    I saw her post the pic of that on FB the other day.  I can't believe she totally ignored your request for no pleating! I mean..it's not like she added a few...half the dress is something you didn't ask for!  Wow....I just can't believe that she did that to you!

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    @Laura27: when that picture went up, i sent an email that Heather, her assistant, received. I told them that that was not the dress i had in mind when i bought the dress. A few hours later, i was blocked from the facebook group and deleted as Angela's friend. I think she thought I was going to comment that on the page.

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    @Laura27: she didn't consult me about anything involving the dress after I paid. If she had, I would have told her I prefered a smooth bodice_not pleating.

     
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    Laura27       Oklahoma

    Oh my....why in world would she think that was ok?

     
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    Lilubird    August 28, 2011   Southern California

    Could we say something in your defence on facebook since you've been deleted and other brides need to beware?

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    @Laura27: i was deleted before I could say something. i sent her an email saying that this was not my dress and an hour later-deleted.

     
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    Shannamaria    June 10, 2011   Pa

    @futuremrshc-I once had a bad experience with with a seller and learned Paypal on gives you 45 days from your payment date to open a dispute. If you fail to open one within this time period, they will not get involved. Many people feel protected when they use paypal, but it's important to keep this time frame in mind...if you don't take action w/in 45 days, your not protected. Many sellers know this and take advantage of it. Items that have to be hand made may take longer to arrive, and sometimes, by the time you realize you've been had it's too late.

     
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    adw2c    June 2011  

    @Shannamaria:

    This is exactly what I have been trying to get other custom brides to understand. They always say "I am protected by paypal" or "I am protected by ebay". Its not true and it has happened to me.

    This is in no way directed @sunnysunday. I feel for you and hate that you had to experience this. I had the same experience with my 1st custom dress purchase. It was a horrible feeling.

    I later rectified my my situtation.

    You only have 5 days until you wedding and this type of stress must be horrible.

    The dress is nice, however if it isn't to your specifications then other should know. If only about such horrible customer service.

     

     
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    Tswife4ever    May 28, 2011   California

    Can you take a picture with the dress on?

     
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    kermie    December 20, 2011  

    I think the dress looks really lovely -I'd love to see it on you too! Perhaps you can get a seamstress to tack down the puffy bits?

     

    Also, if you used a credit card through paypal you should be able to file a complaint with them.

     
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    Lorenzo    July 3, 2011  

    I don't get it, isn't your wedding on July 3? How is that 5 days away? I only noticed because my daughter is getting married on July 3 too. Horrible what you've had to go through tho!

     
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    Cupcake1382    September 10, 2011   Virginia Beach (Wedding in Jamaica)

    Ommmmg!!! I was JUST getting ready to purchase a dress from this seller! Thank goodness I found this post!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!

     
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    s_h_e_l_b_s    May 8, 2010  

    I hope that it all somehow works out for you!

     
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    adw2c    June 2011  

    @Cupcake1382:

    Yeah its so tricky searching for a good seller. Do tons of research. There is plenty of advice on here.

     
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    Torrid    August 12, 2012   Fayetteville, NC

    Oh goodness what a nightmare! I haven't started planning my wedding yet, but I always wondered about the people on Etsy. Thank you for the review! I hope everything works out for you.

     
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    adw2c    June 2011  

    @amirandashannan:

    Omg! I can't believe what you went through. It sounds like the customer service isn't very good for this company.

     
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    bunnyfoofoo    May 14, 2011   Wilmington, NC

    if she deleted you off her FB page, why don't you create your own FB group. That way, when people go to search her page, yours will come up as well. Make it something Bold and short, like "Fairytale Wedding/Angel's Bridal Scammed Me!".

     
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    windego    September 20, 2011  

    I'd do a chargeback, your credit card company WILL back you up 99% of the time. But just be aware that when you do a chargeback Paypal will close your account (essentially banning you from the service) and harass you for the money. There's nothing you can say to convince them otherwise, because you've exceeded the 45 day protection plan. I've even heard of them sending the bill to collections, so just be aware.

     
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    emersynsmommy35    July 30, 2011   Southern Illinois

    @amirandashannan: Oh NO! I'm sooo sorry you guys are having to deal with this!

    This lady is from Carthage Tn?! My BEST friend & MOH is from Carthage! Its a TINY TINY town... I wonder if she knows this lady! I'll ask her about her & get back to ya ladies about what I hear!!!

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    @Lorenzo: lol... i forgot to change my date on here!

    my wedding is May 29th!

    and it was wondrful..despite the dress fiasco.

    i was never refunded any money0- either for hipping or the dress thru Paypal :(

     

     
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    amirandashannan    July 23, 2011  

    @sunnysunday:

     

    I did make one comment on my dress on her page cause I was on a friend's computer and was in a hurry (I wasn't able to view the dress for days cause my laptop's wireless has been super iffy) so I just simply asked that wasn't the bust area supposed to be covered with lace?" and thats' when she immediately deleted me out of her page and messaged me that it was "tacky" of me to post any "negative" comments on the page without emailing her privately! She's GOT ISSUES!

     

    If it was someone else, I'm sure that they would have been like "Oh I'm sorry I didn't mean to overlook that detail, I'll refund some (like $15 dollars) back to make up for the lace." Or give me an explaination. That'd show others that she does really listen to her customers and seeks forgiveness and accepts constructive criticism. The first step on improving yourself and the business is to admit the faults and figure out solutions. It'd also help you to remember for the next dress to pay attention to details and such. Just don't deny so much and try to cover up a bunch of unacknowledged faults with sugar!

     
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    RayRayFurious    May 2013   NJ

    That sucks! I joined her FB group after I got a message from her about custom dresses here on the 'bee. I considered getting a dress made from her for a little bit, but it was still out of my price range. I hope everything is resolved quickly and that you have a wonderful wedding.

     
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    Loribeth    December 1, 2010   Michigan (Married in Savannah, GA)

    It seems to me that if she didn't receive the contract in three days, as her policy states, that she should have returned your payment rather than giving you that run around.  Now her policy says she doesn't accept Paypal...  Sheesh... 

    Sorry you had to go thru this. It is a beautiful dress...it's just too bad it isn't anything like you ordered. 

    What did your inspiration picture look like that you sent?

     
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    sunnysunday    07-03-11   Denver, CO

    @amirandashannan: i agree with EVERYTHING you said!

    she changes her name  A LOT and her polices are condracting.

    if you start a page, i will join!

    i reviewed her on onewed and she was pissed but i was unable to post on weddingwire because she said that i did not even have a contract with her or something... i am still waiting for their costumer service to get back to me so that i can fax them a contract from my side.

     
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    blu77    October 2011  

    Two red flags here --

    I don't know this seller, but anyone who changes their business name often is doing it because they are having serious problems (ie, multiple bad reviews). I've seen this with dressmakers and other home businesses for things other than bridal dresses, it's a huge red flag.

    Also -- anyone who discloses such personal details (especially those mean to evoke sympathy and get you off their back) is immature and NOT a business person.

    I'm glad you can warn others through the Bee! Sorry you had such a bad experience with something as important as a wedding dress :(

     

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