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I would talk to you boss and be as honest as you can about it. Tell her almost exactly what you told us that you are scared you are going to get fired based on false accusations this person is making about you. I think i would leave out the part about the gossip and her bragging about other people getting fired and strictly talk about the case at hand. That she keeps making up stories and you keep getting "talked to". I would totally mention that the job is important to you, that you need it and you would never do anything that would jeopardize it.
I dont think i could just sit back and watch it all go down while jean laughs in the corner. Don't be afraid to bring it up to your boss and stand up for yourself.
@maribonner: I am in no position to leave my job. Nursing jobs are hard enough to find, plus I'm pregnant. She's been there forever so she won't be going anywhere hahaha
I'm just worried about coming across like someone who has something to hide and being like "Oh pay no attention to the person reporting my inadequacies... she's just crazy..." I mean it's my word against hers and they all know her, I'm new.
I'd go straight to HR. You do not have to put up with that and they should be aware. I can't stand people who are so unhappy they have to suck the joy out of life for everyone else too. Hang in there!
I would go to HR and/or your boss and explain what you told us. That multiple times she has made up accusations about you that are totally false and you are worried that you will lose your job over these made up incidents.
If it comes out of the blue instead of directly following an accusation, it will look much less like you are trying to cover your ass.
Definitely talk to someone about it - if not your boss, then HR like others have suggested. I might even consider documenting it in writing, as you did here, but in a more formal matter. That way it won't seem so ridiculous (and like you are lying about the things she did).
yeah, I'd go to HR on this...what about that other guy, could the two of you go in together and back each other up? Or is there anyone else that would be willing to say 'hey, this lady is off her rocker'?
but what a sucky situation for you to be in.
You need to speak with HR. It's going to get out of hand. Do you work days? They may be observing you and/or asking other co-workers as well. Are you charge nurse at times and that's why it's coming out as you're "unfair" to the CNAs? I know the hospital I work at - we have an assignment sheet that the charge RN must fill out. It's always given to our director in the morning (I work overnights). So, if there ARE any problems, the assignment sheet can be referenced.
I wish you the best of luck with this. I know what it's like to work with people that bitch about things that are untrue or uneccessary.
@Mrs.KMM: THIS.
Also, are you represented by a union? Tell your steward right away.
Find out who your allies are so you can ensure that you have people who can back you up.
When you're saying no, be sure you don't sound defensive - something that works for me is to say, "You know, I really like Jean, but I feel like she's reporting things that aren't accurate. I'd like to have a strong working relationship with her, and I don't want this to jeopardize our respective jobs. Can you help me think through how I can get past this?"
@zagora: I was wondering about the union as well. It's really hard to fire RNs unless they REALLY screw up. IE: One of the RNs I worked with was fired because he never marked down that a patient had a pacemaker on his body chart. >.<
You definitely need to go to HR about this lady, and tell them everything she has said. Don't they find it strange that she is the only one tattling on everyone?? Maybe if you actually say something, more people will stand up and agree that she is fabricating things.
I seriously doubt that they will keep her there just because she's a long time employee if they are provided with info that she is trying to blackball other people...that's illegal and she could be sued for harassment, and so could anyone who was notfied and allowed her to keep her job
@MissPumpkinPie: Well, it's much easier to lay them off/fire them if they're not represented - although no union can protect you for gross negligence.
They're there to make sure workers get a fair shot, but it is up to workers to do the job and be ethical - and "Jean" sounds like she's not being ethical.
@MissPumpkinPie: I work overnights and am charge. The assignments are based on where the rooms are, and this girl chose what side she wanted, one of those patients ended up needing 1:1 monitoring, so this CNA basically had the easiest night ever and only had to get up to do her rounds. I did feel for her though because sitting alllll night would be exhausting. The supervisor was aware of the assignments, and yes they're also documented. In fact, you have a great point because the girl being sent down to cover my CNA for breaks would be documented as well. I guess Jean really doesn't have a leg to stand on about this complaint because there is proof to the contrary. Thank you! It's true it takes a lot for a nurse to get fired, but it doesn't take nearly as much to bully her into quitting, right?
@MrsSl82be: I was wondering that too! Like, hello this ONE lady has all these insane dramatic reports to file, yet no one else has noticed anything? I don't know if they just have to follow up on every accusation no matter what, or if they think she's the greatest employee ever and they're lucky to have someone catching so many people doing things wrong. Who knows. Either way it's scary to go up against someone with so much seniority.
For those who asked, no it is not union :( I don't plan to stay there long but I need to get some of that good old nursing gold ("experience") before anyone else will hire me for a better job. Unfortunately this is the kind of experience I'm getting. Tonight I will talk to our coworker who she targets worse than me, just to see if he will back me up. He is switching jobs shortly and will not have any more contact with her so he probably won't want to get involved which is ok.
@Moja Milosc: I would talk to HR or your boss, depending on who you feel more comfortable with. And begin a log of rumors that you have heard from her or from other people who heard it from her, that way you have ammo. My aunt won a case for age discrimination against her employer...since then everyone in my family starts a log of things people say and do that may come back to hurt us.
Also, are you a CNA, LVN or RN? Just curious. I'm deciding between LVN (highly paid in my region) or RN (even better, but a longer waitlist), but since both take so long to get into, I'm thinking about doing a CNA program first.
@Moja Milosc: Yeah, it just seems totally bizarre, so clearly your title is correct!!
I think if you are just as honest as possible, they will really have no choice but to follow up on it. I'm sure once Jane is bombarded with questions about what's she said, she will fall all over herself with nothing to back up her lies, and then she will be out the door! Here's to hoping anyway, for everyone's sake!!
Ugh, experience should be changed to a 4 letter word...
Wowzers! This is totally unfair. You should try to transfer to another department, is that possible? Another floor in the hospital or a different clinic if you are in a clinic setting? I would first try to transfer and I would be looking for another job (unfortunately if you are pregnant enough to where you are showing that may be difficult until after the baby). Do it as quickly as you can. Then when you are safely in another department, area or job report her and file against her for harrassment. This is exactly what she is doing and you have rights. Document everything yourself (we already know your supervisor has records as well). Let them know the stress she put you under (and probably all of those other people she has complained about) while you were pregnant and on the job. Make sure you take note of things you hear especially sexual harrassment issues that she has done with the male co-worker (she isn't allowed to tlak about his body parts, is she crazy??!!) She can't get away with this and don't let her but protect yourself and your family first.
@andersonsarah: I had my CNA first, but the first semester of nursing school is just the same thing as a CNA course, so it may not be worth your money to do both. I am an RN, but if you live in an area where LVN (LPN)s are appreciated and paid well then I say go for it. Most LPNs I work with talk about going back for their RN though, so if you're in a position where you can do that, get it all done now. I found it easier to find a job as an RN than some of my LPN friends. Others on this thread may have better advice for you, but good luck either way!!
Also, you can contact the board of nursing in your state and file a complaint. You can do it online in some states once you don't have to worry about your job. The board would not be happy about this behavior at all!
First off, this is Bullying, plain and simple. And it sounds like she has gotten away with it for a LONG time. Your first course of action should be to speak to the supervisor about the situation, on YOUR terms, not becasue she has tattled and made you see them. If you don't feel the matter is being taken seriously enough, speak to the next level up. And make sure you spell it out, or enter a formal letter of complaint against your coworker for bullying. Bullying is bullshit and there is NO WAY any workplace allows it. I would also look up online some options of how to deal with workplace bullying. Handing her some literature on it my be a good thing too, or just start leaving it lying around while you are on shift where she will see it. ALso look up info on workplace harassment, etc and start reading it while on shift with her. Maybe if she see's you are not willing to get shit on, she will back off, and if not, then continue with the chain of command until you find someone who will back your case. Start taking notes of situations, every time she fabricates a story, dat eit, write down your own version, and if there are any witnesses, talk to them about it, ask them if they would document their version and submit it along with yours. Bring situations up with co workers in her presence and talk abou thow you don't recall them going the way she said, or things happening in that order. Like a family court case DOCUMENT everything. If there are logs you can photocopy, do it, time sheets, charts you can quote etc, do it. Take care of yourself, and hope she does something really stupid to cast doubt on her made up tales to the superiors. And if you find the supervisor is on her side, bypass and tell the next person above you that you feel you are not getting a fair trial becasue of their friendship/long standing relationship etc. SOMEONE out there will listen, you just have to find them!
Going to HR or the board of nursing as someone pointed out are simply not reasonable solutions when you have no proof that someone is bullying you. I have found that many women who have been in nursing for a long time act this way, it's so unfortunate. I would document as much as possible, speak to your boss about bettering your working relationship as one PP said, and try to get other colleagues to back you up. Guns blazing isn't always a good solution, especially when someone has gone out of their way to tell untrue stories.
I guess I wasnt clear in my OP, this woman is a CNA, not a nurse. Thanks for all your input ladies. I am going to document things as they occur and if I keep getting spoken to eventually I can show that I have a list of reports and rumors, and hopefully my supervisor will see this is a pattern of behavior in her, not me. I just want to be protected from losing my job, knowing people like her I'm aware that there's no changing them.
Thanks again for all your input!
CNA's can be awful. When I was a nursing student I had a CNA blatantly lie to the nurse manager and my nursing professor. She claimed I hadn't bathed a patient and provided terrible care for a whole shift. It was completely untrue but she had worked there for years. I got a major slap on the wrist and had to work with her for weeks.
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I started a new nursing job last fall and have done ok getting along with most of the people I work with. There's one woman (we'll call her Jean) that's been there a long time who gossips like her life depends on it. I honestly think she believes the gossip she's spreading. She's so mean to this one guy we work with, she has everyone believing he's so lazy and unsafe for the patients, but really he's perfectly fine. She's actually pretty obsessed about how much she hates him, and has even spread rumors about what his penis looks like. I think it makes her mad that I don't have any problem with him.
Lately she's set her sights on me and has started reporting me to the supervisor for fabricated things. A couple of weeks ago she reported me for sleeping at work. I felt so foolish telling my boss that it wasn't true, it made it look like I was lying to get out of trouble because I'm sure my boss was wondering why would Jean bother making it up?... it must be true. She also spread a rumor that I made someone do an assignment that she didn't want to do and wouldn't let her have any breaks, but I did get her coverage for all her breaks and she tried to refuse the help but I wouldn't let her because the supervisor had already assigned this girl to help. Jean told me how mad this other girl was about it with such a smug look on her face, she was enjoying it I could tell. I still don't know it was even true that this girl was upset about her assignment, but she has people at work thinking I'm mean to the CNAs.
Just this morning I got called down to the supervisors office because Jean had told her yet another made up story. It's a little long and pointless to explain in detail but I was again put in the position of saying "um no... that's not what happened..." and looking like I have a habit of not doing my job correctly then lying about it to get out of trouble.
My husband thinks I should talk to someone and tell them that I feel like she's making things up about me. I just feel like whatever she says is taken as gospel because she's been there so long and it won't look good for me to try and complain about her. But I keep getting spoken to based on these false accusations and I really can't afford to lose my job. I almost feel like telling her I have bills to pay like everyone else, and my job is not a joke... I need it! She brags about other people she's gotten fired and I just don't want to be one of them. What would you do?? Should I just keep my mouth shut and defend myself each time I'm accused of something new or should I be proactive and talk to someone about it and risk making myself look like a drama queen?