Blurred lines of landlord involvement

posted 3 years ago in Home
Post # 3
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

Ugh, house-mate situations are the worst! I hope it all goes well and that the conversation with your landlord isn’t too bad. I’m not sure what advice to give, as he hasn’t yet talked to you, but if he has any reason in his body he should be grateful that he has tenants that look after his property!

Post # 4
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Buzzing Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2012

@AnonBee1717:  Please don’t do anything passive-aggressive, that would be unproductive. 

Talk to her dad aka your landlord and calmly, rationally and logically explain the situation and the agreement between all the roommates.  Unfortunately, he may or may not back you up on this issue. 

It’s possible you, along with roommates R & S, are going to have to take over all the chore responsibilities for the four of you.  Unless you move out there may not be a lot you can do otherwise, unless dad/landlord sees things your way and enforces your rules with his daughter.

Good luck! 

Post # 5
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Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: June 2017

@AnonBee1717:  Sounds like a major pain.  Your landlord is totally in the wrong, I think.  He can’t exactly step in and say that you’re being unreasonable to ask for cleaning- he doesn’t live there.  His daughter does.  She needs to get over herself and take responsibility.  If she doesn’t like it, she can pay a maid or handle it herself.  She’s playing this whole “Well, daddy owns the house” thing.  Her dad is going to lose renters fast if she keeps that up.

How would she like it if your mom called her about her underage drinking?

 

Post # 6
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Sugar Beekeeper
  • Wedding: September 2010

Splitting it 3 ways is better than nothing. If you can’t get her to budge, just cut her out of the loop, chalk it up to one of those college-age life experiences, and move on. Someday you’ll have a place of your own and it will be AWESOME.

Post # 8
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: August 2013

@AnonBee1717: I know our landlords love us for keeping our house in the state we do, so one would hope he would feel the same if pointed out to him. Do you have any examples of things you’ve done to improve the place (without being to harsh about the previous occupants)? As for calling him out for getting involved, I think I would skip that part – criticizing him as well as his daughter will only make it worse. I would see where he takes the conversation and if he insist that his daughter should not be part of the house hold chores I would suggest a decrease in rent or you’ll make sure to post bad reviews after your lease is up. 

Post # 10
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Helper bee

With 4 people, I’d honestly just get a cleaning service every few weeks.    It will minimize problems and just put cleaning on ” auto “.

Post # 12
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Sugar bee
  • Wedding: September 2012

@AnonBee1717:  Yikes, roommate issues are the worst.  I’d call your landlord together like you were planning.  You can answer the questions as you choose, but in all honesty, it is not his place to intervene – not unless damage is being done to the house.  Tell him you appreciate his concern, but you and the rest of the roommates will handle the situation. 

I would suggest talking with J and ask what she thinks needs to be done.  It might be time to revisit the rotating chores and just assign people specific chores.  If she agrees that the carpet cleaning needs to be done every week, then she can be in charge of that and you can take care of the dusting and R can take care of X and S can take care of Y.

I know you can’t break your lease, but depending on how the conversation with the landlord goes, I would advise not renewing.  It would not be worth the stress and hassel. 

Finally, if you need to seek legal council, I believe most universities offer some sort of free legal advice when it comes to renting.  I’ve used them before, they are very helpful.

 

Post # 13
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

I think pointing out that he could lose renters is a great idea. If someone advised me that I would have to deal with a room mate like that I would not be moving in.

One thing I do have to ask- do you clean up after yourself? Like making meals for example? I had room mates that demanded we follow a cleaning schedule but on the weeks that they didn’t clean they were extremely messy and didn’t clean up after making meals. I told them I wouldn’t follow the schedule if they did that. The schedule should be things like sweeping (although if you spill you shouldn’t wait for someone else to sweep) and vacuuming. I know you mentioned those things are on the list but I’m just curious if everyone is cleaning up their messes as well.

Also, how often do you expect the house to be cleaned? We did basic cleaning (sweeping/vacuuming/wiping down toilets) once a week and deeper cleaning (cleaned tub/mopped/dusted) once a month. Maybe it wasn’t the cleanest environment but it is what we agreed on. Perhaps you can ask her how often she things it’s necessary to clean?

We had someone who moved in (after two years of peace) who refused to clean no matter what we did. Finally, we all (the other three of us) just didn’t clean for awhile. It was absolutely disgusting but it did prove our point and he realized that someone needed to clean and just cleaning up our own mess didn’t cut it. Not sure if you guys want to go through that though, especially if it isn’t going to work.

Hopefully the landlord doesn’t take his daughter’s side tonight!

Post # 14
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Newbee

I will leave you with the advice my mom gave me before I moved in with roommates the first time in college. She is kind of a tough B****, so do with it what you will…

“If your room mate won’t pick up after herself, it is not your responbility. Put all the things she didn’t clean on her bed. Her dirty dishes? On her bed. Sticky coffee table? On her bed. Cups left around? On her bed. Broken lamp? On her bed.  Eventually she will have to do something with them if she wants to use her bed. Don’t be taken advantage of and spend all your time cleaning for them.”

I came close do doing that once, but I never really had to implement the On Her Bed rule. I was kind of afraid to!

 

Post # 16
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Bee Keeper
  • Wedding: June 2013

@AnonBee1717:  I agree that once a week isn’t nuts. I personally hate dust because even though I don’t think I’m actually allergic, it does make me sneeze! It was really difficult for us to just not clean. Like, I would almost automatically just start cleaning because it was dirty and I almost couldn’t stand it. I’m glad my roomie learned his lesson or it would have gone to waste! Good luck with her (and her dad)!

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