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    mrsbee    March 5, 2005   New York, NY

    Let's talk about board etiquette so we can come up with general policies together.  New bees can also refer to this thread to learn how to use the boards.

    What are examples of good board etiquette?

    What are examples of bad board etiquette? 

    Remember -- let's do this the positive Weddingbee way! 

     
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    Good board ettiquette: Writing a "final post" to let people know what you've decided on an issue or that the issue is fixed (MIL is better etc)

    Bad board ettiquette: "Hard bumps" = Only writing "bump" in order to move your post to the top of the queue.

    Questions?  Ask MrsBee, MrBee, or a Hive Hostess!

    Problems?  Ask MrsBee, MrBee, or a Hive Hostess!

     
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    Janna19    June 7, 2008   New York

    Good - clarifying when someone asks a question or your original post was not clear; thanking responders en masse; sharing conclusion to issue raised when post first started, as people have taken time to poster out, it is nice to how/if it was resolved

    Bad etiquette - responding to every/most responses to a thread ("I like that idea!"), one at a time, which results in keeping a thread "on top"; starting a thread to attack someone; responding just to up your post count for "status"

     
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    fizicsGirl    8/1/2009   Michigan

    This is a great idea.  I think having an overall positive attitude toward other members is good etiquette.  In some threads I've read posts that expressed negative attitudes toward, for example, people having expensive weddings, people having religious ceremonies, people who aren't having religious ceremonies, people who are having their wedding paid for by their families, people whose families are unable to help them financially....

    As you can see, there isn't any consensus on what the "right" thing is on these boards, which is something I really like about WeddingBee.  That said, I think that it can be rude and possibly a turn-off to new members if they feel they are being judged for their circumstances or decisions.  I don't think there are any particular words that are problematic, but I think that serving out opinions judiciously is in order (e.g. if a person asks what other Bees think of an idea it's okay to say you're not a fan or it can be misinterpreted by guests.  But be nice and try to be empathetic!  OTOH, if a person says this is what I want to do, any help on how to accomplish it?  Or this is my situation, please give me advice. I don't think it's okay to tell them that they are wrong to want that or to be in that situation.  Basically if you, or most people, wouldn't say it to a person's face, don't post it as a response.  Comments can come across a lot harsher when written than when delivered in person.)

    Overall I will say that I really think WeddingBee is a positive community, and I appreciate its diversity.  I think it's very nice how many Bees go out of their way to welcome new members, or offer support either through advice or through compliments of their ideas.  The only time these things can go awry is if the positive attitude translates to overzealousness.  Because the boards are set up so that new posts bump a thread to the top, I think it's good etiquette to be mindful of posting in a way that can drown out other threads.  This may be different from some other web communities, so I think it's important to keep that in mind.

    Whew!  There's my two (or perhaps ten) cents...I look forward to everyone's thoughts:)

     
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    rosychicklet    September 27, 2008   Boston, MA

    I think Weddingbee is a great community- very welcoming, positive and helpful in all regards.

    While I agree with most of the etiquette suggestions so far, I don't see anything wrong with bumping up a post that has been languishing, unanswered for several days or more.

    Often when I'm going through the boards I specifially look for posts with no replies, or very few replies and try to help that person get an answer/response to their query (even if I just suggest reposting it to a more relevant board).

    I think it's possible for posts to get lost in the shuffle- especially if they are posted at off hours.  So in cases where there is little to no response for a reasonable period of time, it is understandable and acceptable for a poster to bump their post up in the hopes of getting help.

     
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    loveatfirstsightlover    May 30, 2009   Iowa

    I'm really glad you started this forum discussion because I was disturbed that the other one on board etiquette was singling someone out. Which, by the way, is definitely on my list of things not to do. We've had that problem before, on WeddingBee and Project Wedding, and I'm happy when the mods close them.

    I like the idea of coming together to discuss the right and wrong thing to do on boards because I know I'd be pretty upset if someone sent me a personal message telling me I was doing something wrong when I thought I was being polite. I think we should all remember that we're coming from different places and that we might have different opinions on what's proper and we shouldn't make assumptions about other Bees we don't know.

    I think it's also best to avoid saying negative things about traditions or wedding decisions we might not agree with. If you don't think a cash bar is the best option because it means guests will have to handle money, but you can understand budget brides needing to utilize this option, say so - don't just say they're "tacky." I'm especially disappointed when I see entire forums devoted to things we hate about weddings or things we find tacky. You're almost certain to hurt someone's feelings.

     
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    This is what I think should go for rules in a sticky.  Members can flag people for the following bad etiquette:

    1.  Bumping own thread, needlessly. (ie. answers have been given.)

    2. Posting two (plus) consecutive posts on the same thread.  If you forgot something to your post you want to add, just use the edit button to add it in.  (ie. Do not post to individuals separately.)

    3. Starting threads about individual posters, to air grievances.  (It is does not apply if you want to start a thread to say you got engaged or that your wedding is tomorrow.)

    4. Starting the same thread in more than one location.  I know it's been said before.  Might as well be on a sticky.

    5.  Swearing.  (I don't see a ton.  But once in a while when a bride is fuming about an argument with _____.)

    6.  (Just MHO).  Starting more than "X" amount of threads in one day.  This one might not fly.  But I feel like if we kept it to say starting 3 threads a day????  Posters would make sure their threads were really good ones, and feel more obligated to search for a previous thread that has been started, rather than start threads willy nilly.

    7.  Personal attacks and snarkiness.

    I don't think it should be policed too much.  People should be allowed to express how they feel.  If their expression involves a personal attack, they can be warned flaggerd, suspended etc.  But if someone is saying they don't like something, that is their opinion.  This is a message board.  People might get offended by something that was misunderstood.  They might think someone is attacking their lack of money, when someone is just saying they think it is wrong to have a cash bar etc.  Also because we aren't live voices, it is difficult to understand the tone of someone's comments.  And therefore we shouldn't try to guess.  We all should know going into a message board that it can be difficult to know the "attitude" behind the comment, and have to be prepared to give the poster the benefit of the doubt.

    I guess that's about it from me for now.

     

     
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    dorsay    August 2009  

    I have to agree, I saw a few threads that were singling each other and others and it was a bit upsetting. Aside from posts singling out individuals I'm also not a fan of *bump* posts.  I honestly can't say how I feel any better than loveatfirstsightlover did. Thanks for creating a forum to discuss this.

     
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    loveatfirstsightlover    May 30, 2009   Iowa

    Oh, and I should also say that I don't mind when someone "bumps" their forum thread because they didn't get any responses. I've seen a lot of girls looking for advice who do this because their post gets lost in the mass of others. We get a lot of "hot topics" that get a lot of attention, and they tend to dominate the top of the boards.

    I really hope that we don't get so nit-picky with our etiquette suggestions that we start limiting the number of thank you's a person can say or we start flagging people who "bump" their post. I don't exactly think these are "flaggable" offenses, and it's probably hurtful to the girls who are just looking for some advice or extra polite.

     
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    flbeachbride    May 2009   Florida

    I agree with all of these as good suggestions.  I never noticed the flag button until this morning, and there is a reason it is there, as well as with the ability to add a comment.  I believe good etiquette does include posting a comment to someone's post to say something supportive or congratulate them, etc, but that the overall intent is not to increase the count, etc.

    As long as we can keep a positive attitude all-around, which includes like rosy chicklet said, looking for other's posts and perhaps giving them some advice or wisdom if none has been offerred, I think that should maintain the overall fairness and intention of the boards.  Venting is appropriate in regards to certain situations in regards to weddings, but not in regards to specific users.  I think this is a great way for us to discuss.

     
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    Mrs. DG    July 18, 2009   Seattle/Tahoe

    I think there are some really great suggestions here.  I agree with the idea about remaining positive, supportive and open to other people's wedding ideas.  It's one thing to say "Hmm... that's not really my style, but it might work well depending on the circumstance" and another thing to say, "That's a bad style, and I have no idea why you would want that." 

    It's all in the presentation, right?

    As for the 3 topic a day suggestion, I'd fully be in violation if we could only post 3! But I think it's all about what you are posting.  Ask yourself, "Will this add something to the community?  Will this help me answer a question I'm needing help with?"  If you're not sure, then maybe sit on the idea for a couple of hours or even a day, and see if it still seems relevant-- and post it!

    I think tolerance goes a long way here, and by and large the entire hive does an exceptionally good job at achieving just the right balance most of the time :)  That's why this is my favorite place on the internet!

    This is a growing, robust and vibrant community.  As with any growth experience, there may be some bumps (wasn't meaning thread bumps, but perhaps it applies here!) along the way.  I think it's great that we're evolving and addressing things head on:)

     
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    pinwheelspoprocks    October 10, 2009   Los Angeles/CA

    Generally speaking, the hive is an incredibly supportive environment. There were a few suggestions above that I don't agree with.

    1- Bumping when you posted on off hours, or even on hours.  It may be a more specific question that requires just the right person to find it like rosychicklet so graciously responds to.

    2- Limiting the # of threads per day. For instance, when I had one day to do a million things in SF, I had to post more than a few threads as they were different topics.

    3- For work I do everything through the back end of our web site so I don't know if this is possible but it would be really helpful if there was a drop down of "popular posts - FAQ by members" so that people can easily access the info without starting a "how do I address an envelope question?" - any question that's pretty straighforward and been answered many times.

    4- I save my posts and responses to favorites but they don't appear in my profile - and it's a pain to access. I would love to wrap things up - how things went but sometimes I can't find my original post?

    5- Leaving flagging up to the community is in my opinion working for a social networking/online dating company bad news.  Someone may not like your username and flag you.  It's terrible :-(

    6- I'd make a suggestion that to "compose" your post - meaning think of what information you can give us that will help us help other members. All too often people's questions are so vague that the first 10 responses are just to gather info that the poster already knows.  Just be thoughtful and detailed enough so that solutions will be easier!

    :-)

     
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    Chela429    3/29/09   Long Island, NY

    I like a lot of the suggestions posted here.  It's difficult to manage this amount of people so that you have friendly constructive boards.  I do not envy Mrs. Bee or the hostesses (although one day I would like to be one, hostess that is).

    That being said, I think that before you complete a post a pop-up or something should come up that would show you similar posts recently posted. (sorry about the word "post" coming up one too many times that past sentence).   I dont know if that's possible but it might stop someone from posting a question that has been asked over and over again.

    Limiting the # of threads is tricky.  There are days that I am doing a lot wedding stuff and want to run ideas past the hive or need advice.  There should be some other way of weeding out posts or asking people to use stronger posts.

    Like FLBeachBride, I never noticed the "Flag" link before.  I think there should be information somewhere about Flagging someone (I havent seen it) that would allow someone to know what they could be flagged about and what the reprecussions could be.

     

     
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    linzella    June 20, 2009   Austin, Texas

    pinwheelspoprocks and Chela429 touched on this, but sometimes questions are posted when the identical question has been asked recently.  I don't think duplicate question-posts are a huge deal, but it can get kind of redundant if a bunch of folks post questions that have already been answered a hundred times.

    I think good board etiquette is to do a quick search on WeddingBee to see if any related pages are returned before posting a question on the boards.

     
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    Miss BooBoo    November 5, 2010   Pittsburgh, PA, DW in Punta Cuna

    I think as long as everyone's considerate of eachother, we should be ok. I mean, we're all in love, right?! Lets not forget that!!

    Stay positive and happy Board Etiquette :  wedding etiquette Icon Biggrin

     
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    rosychicklet    September 27, 2008   Boston, MA

    I do think we have many, many redundant and duplicate posts.

    I started a post about that recently asking if there should be an orientation sticky because the number of duplicate posts on certain areas is really high- so high that it makes me wonder if people are unaware that they can search.

    I routinely respond to posts by referring the poster to the Wiki or to numerous other board posts that covered the topic.

    My post about an orientation didn't generate much response.  However, I do wonder how many Bees are unaware of all the resources at their disposal, leading them to post FAQs that they could rapidly find the answer to (as opposed to waiting for responses) by searching.

    The post I started:

    http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/new-bee-orientation-sticky

     
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    beesknees    04.19.08   Florida

    bad etiquette: i always feel a little ick when i read a post with excessive f bombs.

    but overall - i've been on the 'bee either as a lurker or poster for over a year and, all the bees have been super helpful, creative, lively and wonderful bunch.   

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    Ms. Peachy    3/21/09  

    I have to agree with the profanity and occasional snarky comment.

    What I've notice recently is people commenting on threads that have been brought to conclusion 6+ months ago. While I appreciate that the topic may still be relevant, the comments to a poster whose wedding has passed can prove to be a little monotonous, especially if the author has already let us know of the outcome.

     
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    LatteLove    June 19, 2009   Chicago/San Diego

    I like what linzella, pinwheelspoprocks and Chela429 said about the same questions getting posed over and over.As a hostess, I usually refer the posters to old threads or blog posts that touch on those same issues. 
    However, I would shy away from doing an FAQ, because sometimes there are different 'right' answers to the same question in two different circumstances and we don't want this board to turn into advice columns or q &a! (where one, or a few people answer posters questions with the "proper' way to do something)

    The great thing about the weddingbee boards is that responses come from people with varying opinions and backgrounds and insights!  I don't know what the best way would be, though, to limit the amount of duplicate posting.  Lets just keep encouraging eachother to use the search feature first!

     
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    fizicsGirl    8/1/2009   Michigan

    I agree with Ms. Peachy about giving advice to people several months after they ask for it.  Occasionally someone responds b/c they are in a similar situation, but usually I think it's b/c the first delayed respondent doesn't realize how long ago the first post was.  Is there a way to make this more clear?  I wouldn't want to close threads b/c as I said, it might be necessary, but if it's been more than a month since there's been any activity, can there be some kind of warning letting a person know this before posting?  Like maybe a little banner in red above the "Leave a Comment" window?

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    In response to the comments on resurrecting old threads, can someone just close down the thread?  Leave it there to be read, just don't allow new posts????

     
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    I think overall weddingbee is a wonderful community. 

    My one comment is that I don't think it's a good idea to try to limit the duplicate threads.  While most of the posters here are veterans, a lot of people flit into weddingbee from another site or in response to a search.  I think the instant access to opinions and overall friendliness of the hive is one of weddingbee's biggest assets, and if newbies are confronted with an "already been done" type message, I think that is a bit off-putting.  Sure, we've all seen the "who get's +1 invites" thread a million times, but what's the big deal?  Just don't read it again!

     
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    Liz.smith    May 23, 2009   TN

    I second what chicagowife said. Yes, it gets old to see the same things, sometimes within a day or two of each other. But I'm sure that early on I asked a question that had been asked a million times, and it was the friendliness that drew me in and kept me here. I'm very (overly) sensitive to rejection and hate feeling like people think I'm an idiot, so if I'd encountered an "omg that's been asked a zillion times why didn't you search first!" response I would have left quickly. I do appreciate being linked to old threads and the wiki tho, since I'm godawful at using search engines, and tend to have trouble finding what I'm looking for. Add to that what's been said about each situation being a bit different, and I really wouldn't discourage people from posting whatever they need help with.

     One thing I find a bit irritating, that's not worth flagging over, but maybe listing in a general orientation, is commenting without bothering to read what's been said before. I recently got a comment that completely ignored not only the comments that had been made already, but the actual point of my original post. The person had obviously looked at the title and no further. That's just kind of annoying.

    And I totally second the closing down old threads but leaving them up to read. Way too many posts on threads that are 6+ months old.

    That's all I have! I would definitely love some kind of orientation to be available tho, I was SO confused when I first started, and there are still things I'm not clear on (like what's a "flaggable" offense?).

    Oh, and I'd add, don't use all caps (except for emphasis), especially in a title. That's just bad *internet* etiquette!

    And last thing, and I swear I'll quit, I don't think regular members should be doing ANY policing at all. You get people who are major sticklers for the rules that run everyone off for doing something out of ignorance. The hostesses and mr. and mrs. bee are perfectly capable of handling any violations, and if you think something needs to be brought to their attention, PM them or flag the violator. It's not anyone else's place to start telling people they need to follow the rules.

     
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    july09bridetobe    July 25, 2009  

    I think an answer that suggests Googling is not a helpful answer. It's not providing advice/ideas and the person asking has likely already checked out search engines for help. That's why they come to the hive, to get better, detailed answers from real people.

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    MrsDavis    6-21-2008   Ohio

    I definitely agree with chicago wife and think its a great point. I was so green in the beginning and knew nothing about planning a wedding. I was scared off on The Knot by people who were aggravated by me asking "common" questions that "have been discussed a million times before. " It was so nice to find this community and I loved how helpful people were. I really hope that attitude continues. With Mrs. Bee in charge I am sure it will.

     
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    linzella    June 20, 2009   Austin, Texas

    I thought of one more suggestion!  It would be great to encourage people to post new threads in the appropriate section (invitations, diy, reception, etc.) and to use tags.  I know I'm guilty of forgetting sometimes, but it makes locating information so much easier, and it only takes a second to do!

     
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    sc8493    April 18, 2009  

    I'm not quite sure what to think of the 'bump' idea. I don't think its bad if a bride is doing it to keep her post on the first few pages if its an important question. I think sometimes posts get 'lost' in all the other ones and some brides may not get much if any feedback.

     
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    December    December 12, 2008   Minneapolis,MN/Jackson,MS

    On the hundreds of redundant threads, it might be a neat thing to do a sticky FAQ or "Read This First!" on the Beehive, one that people can continue to add to with things like "No one will think you are crazy for wearing an ivory dress" (for real, I saw someone ask that once on here) and "a really good way to find examples of DIY projects is to [give instructions to Wiki and/or how to filter the blog for the DIY tag). That way it is a more personal approach than simply saying "Don't ask stupid questions" or "Don't ask without having first doing all the research" but gives people a place to start. Weddingbee is big enough now that if you're not used to it it can be a little overwhelming at first.

     

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