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    Running Elley    June 19, 2011   Fresno, CA

    Hi Everyone!!! I really enjoyed this month's book club choice and I'm really excited to discuss it with you all!

    I found these discussion questions through google...feel free to answer any that you think are interesting or just ignore them completely!

    1. What makes Matched dystopian? How does the Society compare with the worlds in other dystopian novels you’ve read.

    2. What details and events make the world Ally Condie created realistic and believable? What do think the positive qualities of the world are? What do you think the negative qualities of the world are?

    3. What scene sticks with you after you’ve finished reading?

    4. Why do you think The Society was so restrictive with the art and literature it permitted?

    5. What artifact from your life would choose to pass down to other generations?

    6. Cassia has a special relationship with her grandfather. Why do you think he gave her the poem even though it was so dangerous?

    7. Why do think that Cassia is so inspired by Dylan Thomas’ poem Do Not Go Gently Into That Good Night? How do you think her understanding of the poem changes throughout the novel?

    8. Cassia is to be assigned as a data sorter. If you were to be assigned a role in The Society what would it be and why?

    9. Cassia has an impossible choice. Would you make the same decision as Cassia? Why or why not?

    10. Now that you’ve read Matched, what questions would you most like to have answered in the upcoming sequel?

     
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    Running Elley    June 19, 2011   Fresno, CA

    *Bump*

    I want to take my time posting my response and I've just been popping in and out so far today (crazy day at work!!) but I can't wait to hear some of your responses!

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    I really enjoyed Matched and immeadiately picked up (and finished) Crossed, the next book in the trilogy.  I've always had a thing for dystopian novels which is what really drew me to this.  I did wish that they went into the dystopian society a little more and didn't focus so much on the love triangle, but it was still quite enjoyable.

     

    1. What makes Matched dystopian? How does the Society compare with the worlds in other dystopian novels you’ve read.

    Matched is a dystopia because it is a very controlled society.  Compared to other dystopian novels I've read though, Matched's society seems like a much better place to live overall, despite the controls in place.

    2. What details and events make the world Ally Condie created realistic and believable? What do think the positive qualities of the world are? What do you think the negative qualities of the world are?

    I think it is realistic because all of the controls that have been implemented are under the guise of helping people and making their lives easier and better.  Obviously one couldn't transition to this overnight but I thinkovertime, it is believable that people would be willing to accpet these controls one by one to "better" their lives.

    The people in the world seem happy.  They are all well fed, healthy, and have nice homes.  Everyone who wants a spouse and a family can have one that is "perfect" for them.  Seems great!

    But things like poisoning the elderly so they all die on their 80th birthday and limiting the art and literature and having aberations and anomalies that are viewed as sub0par members of society, forcibly denied societies priviledges.  Yeah - not so great.

    3. What scene sticks with you after you’ve finished reading?

    The scene of Cassia's grandfather's 80th birthday and his goodbye "ceremony".  I can't fathom killing off the elderly by poisoning them at age 80.  I can't imagine approaching your 80th birthday, knowing you're about to die.  Honestly, that was probaly the thing about this society that shocked me the most.

    4. Why do you think The Society was so restrictive with the art and literature it permitted?

    Because a lot of art and literature are designed to make you think, often to think about the world and the things you know in different ways.  In a society where everything is controled for you, outside thinking can never be encouraged.

    5. What artifact from your life would choose to pass down to other generations?

    Oh man - I have no idea.  I don't have any heirloom type pieces that are mine (yet).  If allowed, I would probably pass down my great-grandmother's ring.  It is currently my mother's but it is beautiful and has been in my family for a long time.

    6. Cassia has a special relationship with her grandfather. Why do you think he gave her the poem even though it was so dangerous?

    I think Cassia's grandfather saw the same fighting spirit in Cassia that he himself had.  I think he hoped that she would be able to use that fighting spirit to do more than he had during his life and thought the poem might inspire her to look at the world differently.

    7. Why do think that Cassia is so inspired by Dylan Thomas’ poem Do Not Go Gently Into That Good Night? How do you think her understanding of the poem changes throughout the novel?

    I've always really enjoyed this poem.  Overall, I hate poetry in English but this one one of few poems I enjoyed and remember.

    I think Cassia's initial inspiration is largely due to the respect she had for her grandfather.  She viewed the poem strictly on his individual rebellion of not wanting his DNA to be stored so that the society could someday bring him back.  As the book progressed though, she started to view it more as a call to fight against those things about society that seem immutable.

    8. Cassia is to be assigned as a data sorter. If you were to be assigned a role in The Society what would it be and why?

    I think it is really hard to say.  As I said above, I wish the book went into more details about the society itself.  We were given so few glimpses even at any possible roles in society that it is hard to say where I might fit.

    9. Cassia has an impossible choice. Would you make the same decision as Cassia? Why or why not?

    Which choice are you referring to?  Xander vs. Ky?  To take the red pill or not?  Cassia makes many difficult decisions so I'm not sure which to answer for.

    10. Now that you’ve read Matched, what questions would you most like to have answered in the upcoming sequel?

    It's a little harder to answer this since I've already read Crossed, but I'll try to remember what I was thinking before i immeadiately started book #2.  :)

    First, I want to know if she chooses Xander or Ky (I know who I like!) but I'm sure this won't be resolved until the last book.  Second, I want to know if her family got moved because of Cassia or because of her mother's report.

     
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    Running Elley    June 19, 2011   Fresno, CA

    3. What scene sticks with you after you’ve finished reading?

    The scene where Cassia was running on the "trainer" and just kept pushing herself even though it was giving her warnings. I thought the point where she fell was really interesting, when she had to make the decision whether or not to get back on the trainer and make everything look normal.

    6. Cassia has a special relationship with her grandfather. Why do you think he gave her the poem even though it was so dangerous?

    I think that, while nearing the end of his life, he was disappointed in himself. He knew that things weren't moving in the right direction and he seemed to wish like he had done more. I believe that he could tell that Cassia could be strong if she was challenged in a specific way and the poem was his challenge.

    Also, when I googled Matched I found that it has a website and they identify what the 100 songs, 100 poems and 100 stories are. I found it really interesting! You can also get "matched" but it's a quiz that uses FB so I didn't do it. Here's the link :)

    @Mrs.KMM:  Which one do you like, Xander or Ky?? I'm about halfway through the second book now and I don't really have a clear preference! I keep going back and forth.

     
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    Mrs.KMM    July 17, 2010   Atlanta, GA (wedding in Indianapolis, IN)

    @Running Elley:  I like Xander.

    Everything with Xander feels so genuine.  Cassia seems to truely care about him (and he cares about her) and they really seem to understand each other and their individual needs.  It just feels right to me.

    I felt through both books that the relationship with Ky (as more than a friend) felt forced.  Kind of like Cassia only wants to be with him as part of her personal rebellion.

     
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    Running Elley    June 19, 2011   Fresno, CA

    @Mrs.KMM:  That's what I've been thinking lately too. When she asked him who he wished his match was and he said her my heart just melted. And the things that he's done in both books seem to always have her best interests at heart, even if it means helping her and Ky. It seems like they have more of a lasting relationship while Ky seems like a fling...just like the Society says.

     
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    BirdofaFeather    April 10, 2010   San Diego, CA

    oh, i'll play since i read matched (and crossed) last month!

    3. What scene sticks with you after you’ve finished reading?

    the scene where Ky gets pulled out of his home in the morning and is being sent away. i remember reading it and my heart beating really fast with cassia's reaction and his "mom's" reaction. i'm a romantic and it was hard to imagine this scene with them being ripped apart.

    4. Why do you think The Society was so restrictive with the art and literature it permitted?

    it was another one of their controls to resirict creativity and get everyone to fall in line. one (or two rather) little poem starts cassia on a journey and a way of thinking that changes everything. art is power.

    5. What artifact from your life would choose to pass down to other generations?

    probably a camera of mine.

    6. Cassia has a special relationship with her grandfather. Why do you think he gave her the poem even though it was so dangerous?

    he saw in her the questioning she had already and probably saw a lot of himself in her.

    7. Why do think that Cassia is so inspired by Dylan Thomas’ poem Do Not Go Gently Into That Good Night? How do you think her understanding of the poem changes throughout the novel?

    it becomes an anthem. do give up, do not let go, do not give in. as society continues to pull her and ky apart, it becomes that "song" that she clings to in order to get power... i think of it like that power ballad you play when you're pushing yourself while working out.

    9. Cassia has an impossible choice. Would you make the same decision as Cassia? Why or why not?

    probably because i think about the ones i love and that i want the best for them. so i would sort ky because i would think that's what's best.

    10. Now that you’ve read Matched, what questions would you most like to have answered in the upcoming sequel?

    well, i've read crossed, but my question was, what's going to happen to ky? are they going to get back together anytime soon?

     

    @Running Elley:  i'm all about ky. it just seems right.

     
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    parasol    September 16, 2011   Los Angeles

    I'm joining in, ladies! Jealous that I can't talk about the sequel yet, but I just picked it up the other day and am ready to devour it. :)

    1. What makes Matched dystopian? How does the Society compare with the worlds in other dystopian novels you’ve read.  Matched is pretty clearly a book about the absence of free will and choice, which I found fascinating. The Society is by no means overtly oppressive (which is quite different from other dystopian novels like, say, The Hunger Games), and they seem to have their citizens best interests at heart (or at least that's what they want everyone to think). I actually find this type of society more sinister. I mean, there are so many people who clearly buy into their way of structuring the world and don't question it at all, and because their oppressive tactics aren't overt, it's more difficult to pinpoint them and know how to subvert them. I think Cassia has an interesting road ahead of her, and I'm excited to see how she and others will challenge the Society in the coming books. 

    2. What details and events make the world Ally Condie created realistic and believable? What do think the positive qualities of the world are? What do you think the negative qualities of the world are?  I think the world is realistic because of the consistency throughout. At first, all the stuff about culture seemed a little peripheral to me. But, as I continued reading, I realized that this was just another way of demonstrating the Society's all-powerful control under the guise of "helping" their citizens. In the same way that they decide what their citizens eat, who they marry, and what job they work, they also limit their culture, and all in an attempt to give them the happiest, healthiest lives possible. 

    Having just read the first book, I think there is the possibility that the Society isn't totally bad. Obviously a lot of what they do seems horrible to us, but I do think it's possible that they really think that they are trying to help their citizens live the best lives possible. I also think it's possible that there are more sinister motivations behind what they do, so we'll have to see what comes next.

    Negative qualities are definitely the lack of free will and choice, as well as the treatment of the elderly and anyone outside of the norm. In an effort to keep things are pristine as possible, they do a lot of scary things, like totally uprooting Cassia and her family (as well as Ky and his family) from their community at the end of the book. The desire for a structured, problem-free life leads the Society to cover up cracks in a very dangerous and frightening way, and I think that shows how fraught their goals are in the first place.  

    3. What scene sticks with you after you’ve finished reading?  This isn't a particular scene, but I loved how Cassia slowly began to question the Society. There wasn't one moment when she was like, "Wow, now I think the Society's bad becuase of X!" Rather, she started questioning whether or not the Society is truly good, and her discomfort slowly grew throughout the novel. It was a subtle transition, and it was interesting once she was finally on the "Society is more bad than good" side of things, but I appreciated how the author let her discontent grow slowly and naturally. I thought that was very intesresting and realistic. 

    4. Why do you think The Society was so restrictive with the art and literature it permitted? The structure of the Society is very tenuous, and because it's so reliant on the restriction of free will and choice, it needed to keep its citizens' critical thinking in check. If you have citizens learning how to question, analyze, and critize things, then they will probably have a much more difficult time accepting a society that is based on restricting free will. In order for the Society to work at all, they have to control the cultural artifacts that their citizens come into contact with.  

    5. What artifact from your life would choose to pass down to other generations?  Probably some sort of writing, like in the book. I think words and thoughts are so important (as we see throughout Matched), and if society restricted those, I'd definitely want to find a way to preserve them and pass them onto future generations. 

    6. Cassia has a special relationship with her grandfather. Why do you think he gave her the poem even though it was so dangerous?  He questions the way the Society functions, and I think he wants Cassia (and others) to question it as well. He understands that there's something fundamentally wrong with the Society, and I don't think he can stand to simply buck their power by asking his son to lose his DNA sample so that he can die on his own terms. I think he cherishes the ability to think critically about the world, and I think he wants to pass that onto Cassia. Hence, why he gives her the poem. I don't think he necessarily has any expectations about what she'll do in terms of the Society. I think he just wants her to have the opportunity to think for herself and to know that it's OK to fight if that's what she believes in. 

    7. Why do think that Cassia is so inspired by Dylan Thomas’ poem Do Not Go Gently Into That Good Night? How do you think her understanding of the poem changes throughout the novel?  I think the poem opens Cassia's eyes. Prior to her interactions with her grandfather and getting the poem, Cassia simply accepted what the Society dictated for her life. The poem opens her eyes to another possibility: that she can question and react against what the Society wants for her. As she grows more and more discontent with the Society, I think she understands the poem on a deeper level. Whereas it first gave her permission to think and question, by the end, it helps her to react and fight. 

    8. Cassia is to be assigned as a data sorter. If you were to be assigned a role in The Society what would it be and why?  I'm not sure. I have a hunch I might be doing something like Cassia's dad or grandmother/great-grandmother given my own background in literature. But it'd kill me to destroy all of that culture (and I'd probably be stealing tons of writing to pass onto future generations!). I also think it's hard to say what exactly I'd do because we only see a few options. Like even with Xander. We know he works in something to do with pharmaceutics, but we don't really know what. Maybe we'll learn more in the second book...

    9. Cassia has an impossible choice. Would you make the same decision as Cassia? Why or why not?  Like PPs, I'm not sure exactly what this is referring to. But I'm guessing it has to do with whether Cassia quietly accepts the life Society has chosen for her or whether she chooses to fight against it and thus accepts the consequences of her rebellion. If that's the choice, then I certainly would choose to fight. I don't think there's any way for Cassia to simply go back to things as they were. She can think now, and a life that requires her to passively live out what others have chosen would be more miserable than anything the Society could do to her. I'd definitely rebel. 

    10. Now that you’ve read Matched, what questions would you most like to have answered in the upcoming sequel? I want to see more develop with Cassia's mom and dad. They clearly are also thinking about how the Society works and how best to live in it, and they fall on two different sides of the equation (dad subverts, mom obeys). I find that fascinating, and I want to know more about how they got there. I also really want to know who put Ky into the matching pool. And I obviously want to know how everyone's story gets resolved. Can't wait to keep reading! :)

     
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    parasol    September 16, 2011   Los Angeles

    @Running Elley and @Mrs.KMM: That's so interesting that you both like Xander! I kind of had the exact opposite response to him and Ky - like I felt like Xander was more of the friend turned forced romantic interest, while Ky was the true romantic interest. But I definitely want to see more. Xander is obviously not as fully developed of a character in Matched as Ky is, and I would love to know a more about him in the next book. As it stands, we seem to get a lot of surface info about him in Matched, but by the end, with his confession about his previous history with Ky and the red pills, I think we get a deeper sense of his character. He's obviously not as passive and oblivious as he seems throughout a lot of the book, and I want to see more of that.

    Overall, I think that's one of the things the book does so well: take characters who seem to passively accept the Society and show the ways in which they question and react against it. It's not just Cassia (and Ky) who's having this awakening, but so many other characters, like the grandfather, her parents, and Xander. The cracks are definitely beginning to show, and I can't wait to see them fall apart even more. 

     
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    Running Elley    June 19, 2011   Fresno, CA

    @parasol:  I didn't start feeling more in favor of Xander until some developments from the second book so I'm interested to see how you feel after you read it! You'll have to come and report back :) I'd also like some more development on her mother and father, it seems like there is more to their story than the author has shared yet.

    I'm almost done with Crossed and I honestly don't know how I'm going to wait for the third book to come out!

     
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    1. What makes Matched dystopian? How does the Society compare with the worlds in other dystopian novels you’ve read?

    I think that the Society in Matched is dystopian because of the lack of control folks had there. Meaning, they were not in control of a lot of factors in their lives. Now, it is not as bad as certain other dystopian novels I’ve read (A Handmaid’s Tale, The Hunger Games etc) but the premise is all the same. ‘We’ are doing this and this and this to make your life better when it in actually denies their citizens certain basic rights. I mean, I was struck by the fact that they ate oatmeal a lot…I love oatmeal but not that much. They had regulation pajamas. Regulation outfits…stuff like that.

    2. What details and events make the world Ally Condie created realistic and believable? What do think the positive qualities of the world are? What do you think the negative qualities of the world are?

    The world the author created is believable in a way. Sorry to say, I think of some communist countries as places like that (I know I know, my bad. But I was younger during the days of the USSR and I always pictured it like that). The access to trains that arrive and leave on time. You have games to play. You have a job, you seem happy. There is computer (port) access. School, work, play, marriage, kids. All regular. Some of these are positives and some are negatives.  I.e., for some people, lack of choice in marriage is not such a bad thing if they truly believe that the Society is making the right choice for them. Also, they are healthy. They are given enough food in the right nutritious amounts so that they are not hungry and the food makes them strong and healthy. Seems like they don’t get sick. They try and make sure everyone is on the same standing to cut out petty jealousies….i.e., when they got rid of the artifacts and when they got rid of everyone’s trees. OTOH, the control is a bit too much. You know who you will marry. What kind of job you will do. When you will get matched. How you will get matched. When you will stop having kids. When you will die. Actually, the control is too too much. Knowing when one would die, the games you play, the food one eats, the clothes one wears, the matching, the forced removal, the pills, the lack of art and literature (100 best of? You have got to be kidding me). The costs far outweigh the benefits.

    3. What scene sticks with you after you’ve finished reading? I don’t know that there is this one scene that sticks with me per se. I always loved her scenes with Ky being as he was a bit laconic so their gestures spoke much louder than their words. E.g., the scene where he’s crying in the movie theater. I loved her scenes with her grandfather too. I didn’t like that he died but still, the events of the last day stuck with me and was quite traumatic.

    4. Why do you think The Society was so restrictive with the art and literature it permitted? I think art and literature makes people think. It questions boundaries. It expands our sphere of existence. Look at it this way, Ky was able to tell Cassia about what happened to him in his prior life by writing the details down and drawing them. Imagine if he couldn’t. It would have been hard for Cassia to picture what happened. I can understand why the society was able to clamp down on art and literature and also the ability to write. When one imagines closed societies, the artists and artisans, the philosophers and those who question are usually the first to ‘go’ because they agitate people’s ability to question.

    5. What artifact from your life would choose to pass down to other generations? Ah, I haven’t lived long enough to care about anything I want to pass down generation to generation. I’m hard pressed to think of one now.

    6. Cassia has a special relationship with her grandfather. Why do you think he gave her the poem even though it was so dangerous? I think he gave her the poem so she could question what her life is. I don’t think he himself was a 100% for the society but I don’t know that he wanted her to rebel against the society. I think he wanted her to live her life rebelliously, within the confines that the society set out for her. I know he thought it was dangerous but I think he thought it was more dangerous for her to go gently into that good night. As we read, he was one of the folks who  assisted in choosing the literature to keep but we don’t see any evidence from his life that he was a rebel. However, when he died, he didn’t want his tissue kept. I think that was his final act of rebellion.

    7. Why do think that Cassia is so inspired by Dylan Thomas’ poem Do Not Go Gently Into That Good Night? How do you think her understanding of the poem changes throughout the novel? I think that at first she was confused. She didn’t know exactly what it meant or what the poem or even her grandfather wanted from her. She was just confused about the Match. But as events unfolded, as she got closer to Ky, she started questioning society. At first, I think it was about Ky/Xander but as time goes on, she starts noticing how things are run and how they don’t seem right to her.

    8. Cassia is to be assigned as a data sorter. If you were to be assigned a role in The Society what would it be and why? I honestly don’t even know what the heck her job was. I do have a basic understanding of what Ky did and God knows I wouldn’t want to do that. I don’t have any idea what I’d be.

    9. Cassia has an impossible choice. Would you make the same decision as Cassia? Why or why not? I don’t know what choice we are talking about. The poem? I would have burned it. By the time she burned the poem, she wasn’t strong enough to hide stuff. And even when she was, she still ought to have burned it. The consequences of being caught with contraband would have far outweighed whatever benefits she could get. That’s why she always burned Ky’s writing. If it’s choosing between Xander and Ky, as a 17 year old, the mysteriousness of Ky would have drawn me into exploring him. As an older woman, I’d probably go with Xander who I’ve known all my life and according to the book, he isn’t bad looking and he seems like an upstanding guy. If it’s about leaving society, I would have left to go search for Ky. By the end of the book, Cassia was so much stronger and I think that was the right choice to make at that time. After all that happened, and not taking the red pill, there was no way she was going to go back to things the way they were before.

    10. Now that you’ve read Matched, what questions would you most like to have answered in the upcoming sequel?

    What happened to Xander after she left? Where is Ky? What were the real consequences of her mother’s actions? What was life like for her maternal grandparents? What’s the real story about Ky’s biological parents? Where are Ky’s aunt and uncle??

     

     
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    ecomaha    October 16, 2009  

    I loved 'matched'!  It was a great book to follow up after reading 'the hunger games'.  I've requested 'crossed' from the library and i'm so anxious to get it!   i'm excited to see how her 'escape' comes about and how she is able to locate Ky.  there were many questions left unanswered!

     
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    Running Elley    June 19, 2011   Fresno, CA

    @ecomaha:  Crossed is SO good!!! You'll love it! I'm not done with it yet but I have a feeling it's going to leave me with a lot of questions too! Darn cliffhangers!

     

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