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Bosses who are work-obsessed

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    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    Does anyone have a boss who's completely work-obsessed? Mine's just been driving me crazy lately, so I needed to vent.

    Our CEO (my boss), believe it or not, doesn't think that people work because they have to. He truly believes that everyone works for his company because they all absolutely love it and what they do here. In January, he offered all of us $5K to quit our jobs, and the reason behind the whole thing was to ensure that everyone here loves doing what they do. He strongly encouraged people to take him up on the offer if they weren't doing what they really wanted to do in life. A nice offer if you think about it, but in reality, a lot of us work because we have to, at jobs that we don't like because there's nothing else out there.

    I'm an office manager. I'm good at it, but I do not love it. It's just a job. It kind of freightens me to think my boss thinks, "She does this because she LOVES filing expense reports, taking calls from angry customers and creating sales reports."

    It's just been bothering me lately because, since he thinks we all LOVE our jobs so much, and hanging out with each other, he's organizing yet another company dinner, which everyone dreads. Attendance is mandatory, and he calls it an "employee appreciation" dinner, but really, what we would all prefer is to go home and see our own friends/family or perhaps earn some extra paid time off (we have bare, bare minimum ... it's bad). He thinks we all love these dinners, though, which is why he continues to do them. Every reward we get for making sales goals or whatever is spending more time with coworkers. Managers have brought up different rewards in the past, like cash bonuses or more paid time off and he shrugs it off saying that people like parties and socializing outside the office.

    I'm just venting because we have a company appreciation dinner tomorrow, and I'm dreading it. They take forever, and I'm bored the whole time. I don't not get along with my coworkers, and I respect them ... they're just simply not my favorite people in the whole world.

    I feel kind of guilty for thinking these things sometimes, because my salary is decent (not great, but it could be worse), and I know I'm lucky to have a job.

    Does anyone else have a boss that doesn't seem to get there's life outside the office and the people who work in it?

     
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    ejs4y8    June 20, 2009  

    Do they do those "suggestions" at all? We have an online system once a year where we anonymously rate our bosses and can make suggestions.

    Could you make any through HR? haha.

    I hate forced work events. Sorry, my own family and friends are WAY more fun to chill with than my coworkers =]

     
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    okqueenbee    Dec 4, 2009   OKC

    My old bosses (married couple) were EXACTLY like that (especially the wife AKA "president" of their business). It was tough working there (almost 4 years) because she was VERY stubborn and hard to deal with and would milk as many hours out of me & my co-workers as possible. I had to get out of there. I was working minimum of 55 hours a week and I felt like I was going insane. (Not exaggerating).

    I get where you're coming from, trust me. I also understand the "guilty" feelings at having thoughts like those, but hey, you have to think about what's best for you. YOU don't own the company, therefore you shouldn't have to be there all the time. I think people that own their own businesses practially sell their souls.

     

     
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    ribbons    June 12, 2010  

    I would die if they did this here. But I also would've taken the 5k :)

     

     
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    GirlWithARing    September 5, 2010   Living in NYC, marrying in Philadelphia

    Welcome to the investment banking industry. Except we work ALL THE TIME, so we slowly lose touch with our actual friends, and our coworkers become the only people we ever see. And all of those fun cocktail hours, happy hours, dinners, etc are mandatory too. Honestly, I'm lucky that I like the vast majority of my coworkers or else I would go crazy. 

    PS And speaking of bosses who love their jobs, some senior people will stay till 1-2AM because they're so into it and want to make the work product perfect. I guess they're lucky to love their jobs so much, but I would not want to be their wife/girlfriend/kid. 

     
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    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    @ejs: We have a suggestion box type thing where these things have been brought up numerous times. They're ignored. I'm technically the HR department (small company), and always try to politely tell the boss these things, but he seriously just thinks people prefer social dinners. It's weird. I wish my boss understood that going home on time to see my husband is like, way more fun.

    @ribbons: Ha! I considered it! But with the salary I make, plus the health benefits, the numbers didn't add up, and it didn't make sense for me to take the deal. No one took it, actually, because with the economy, it would have taken us forever to find other jobs, which is why I end up feeling guilty!

    @girlwitharing: that sucks!

     
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    Melissabegins    December 12, 2009  

    @girl with a ring - those people staying til 1-2 am every single night probably have to stay at this point, b/c the people in their lives are sick of that nonsense. Yikes!

    If we were offered cash to leave, I would be out the door with cash in hand before they finished their sentence. I'm SO glad we don't have work events outside of work hours. I suspect they realize that they'd get very little attendance. We don't even like going on lunch trips, b/c most of us would rather sit in the car in the parking lot than talk to our coworkers for another 30 mins a day. That's what i just got back from doing, haha.  I saw a few cars also parked along the back corner walls of the parking lot - i'm def not the only one.

     
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    prettyflowers    September 2010  

    Honestly, I would start looking for a different job if possible.  It sounds like the pay is so-so, they are very stingy with paid time off, and they "reward" you in ways that actually diminish your quality of life.

    The offer of 5k to quit if you don't "love it here" is irritating.  You live in Chicago- that would cover what, like 2-3 months rent (and nothing else)?  In this economy no one would take that offer unless (1) they don't really "need" to work in the first place or (2) they already had another job lined up.  A job search can easily take several months... 5k is not much of a safety net.

    Your boss just sounds out of touch, which is never good.

     
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    realeastcoaster    July 11, 2009   Canada

    Yikes, when I rad your post I thought to myself "You work for Michael!"

    I would have taken the 5k, but I live in a place where that would stretch a lot further.

    Maybe just pull a sickie so you don't have to go to this dinner.

     
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    mssocks    October 10, 2010  

    My old boss LOVED working too.  She didn't have a family or significant other though, so she never understood that sometimes you just want to be HOME.  We weren't forced to go to company events though...that sounds horrible!

    It's sad that even your managers are on your side but the CEO just doesn't see it.  Not sure what to tell you...I'd be tempted to write an "anonymous" letter to him and just say..."we'd LOVE our jobs more if you'd stop making us socialize with each other and give us more time off!" Or better yet, get a petition going around the office!  That'd be risky, but the thought would sure cross my mind!

     
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    laural    September 24, 2011   Louisiana

    Not to play the devils advocate but what else would you have your boss do? It sounds like your boss cares about having people who want to be there working for him. I am not sure what exactly this dinner is comprised of but the fact that he thought to do this is way more than soooo many bosses. I mean it is not really your boss' responsibility to care about your life outside of work. I personally think that the 5k was a generous offer for anybody looking for a way out of working there.

    As for the dinner - try to get to know your collegues better and maybe you will find something you do like about them.

     
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    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    @laural: I see your point. I really do. It's just difficult because I have a lot of friends who work for companies that truly understand a work/life balance. I think what really gets me is that, no, he doesn't care what my life outside the office is, but a growing trend right now in HR is recognizing that employees are happier and more productive when their outside life is taken into consideration (telecommuting, for example, is gaining a lot of popularity because companies see how it can make an employee more productive, and the employee gets to spend more time at home).

    The dinner is just a dinner. Cocktails, entrees and chatting. I know my corworkers pretty well (been to a lot of these things!) and honestly, like I said, they're just not people I enjoy socializing with, and I'm sure they feel the same about me and each other - in fact, I know that's true. We all respect each other and get along, but we're not BFFs and we recognize that we're just coworkers.

     
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    laural    September 24, 2011   Louisiana

    What could your boss do to make working a better experience and more productive for both of you? Telecommuting, a different schedule where maybe you come in super early but also get to leave super early, a change in responsibilities, etc?

    I know that my one of my all time favorite bosses allowed me to come in at 11 but I also stayed until like 7 or 8 most days but I was so much happier and my work improved and ultimately my boss was happier. (what can I say - I am just not a morning person!) A lot of bosses hear the moaning and groaning but if you give them an alternative (other than just not doing whatever it is) I find that it usually benefits everyone.

    If I were you I would suggest maybe an employee appreciation Friday where everyone got off work early or there was catered lunch instead of a dinner.

     
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    MissAsB    June 6, 2009   Married in CO, Living in AL

    I'm so sorry.  That's so ignorant of him to think that just because you didn't take $5,000 (which I don't know how much you make but that would last my husband and I less than 2 months) that you are in love with the job.  The economy is poor and you couldn't expect to find a job in 2 months without having a backup plan.

    My old boss was similar in a way.  He seemed to think that we were really happy working at our job and that working 12 hours days during tax season was made up for with a big bonus (there are some things money can't make up for ever).

    I don't have any suggestions really but I hope you survive the dinner tomorrow!

     
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    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    @laural: Unfortunately, that's the problem. With our anonymous suggestion box thing, employees have tactfully and professionally explained that while a free meal is nice, having them outside of work hours is difficult because of their personal lives. Many expressed that catered lunches and early Fridays would be great as a substitute to show appreciation, but he doesn't like the ideas, insisting he knows what people like. He's a difficult person to get along with.

    I understand I come off as whining and complaining and unappreciative, but hey, we all need to vent sometimes, right? :)

    Thanks to everyone who understands! I actually feel better just venting.

     
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    Miss Chapstick    September 2009  

    @ prettyflowers: exactly, which is why it actually would have been stupid of me to take the deal. With health coverage of my monthly prescriptions and my current salary, I wouldn't even have lasted two months! And that's with my husband paying all the bills except my half of the rent. So yeah, it sounds like a good deal, but when reality sets in and you crunch numbers, it's really not.

     
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    dachshund    May 22, 2010   Fresno, CA

    I DEFINITELY would have taken the 5k.  With all the money I've been forced to put into retirement, it would be just enough to get my own business up and running.  I hate my job.  I work in an office that is very inflexible.  The pay is poor and our insurance is crazy expensive.  We can't afford to put Mr. Doxie on it, so he's uninsured ATM.  The only good thing about my job is that we're allowed to work overtime for extra vacation hours, accrued at time-and-a-half.  So I'm coming in an hour early every morning so that I can take three weeks off for the wedding.  I wish I could just quit then, too!  

    Bosses that fail to listen to employee suggestions are difficult.  It stinks that he just ignores everyone's complaints about after-work functions!  Thankfully, the only time we ever get together is during our lunches for a co-worker's birthday.

     

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