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Have never thought of getting botox (it makes me nervous) but I will be having airbrush make-up done for the big day.
I would never have botox done even at the not-so-tender age of 51! However, I did look into tummy liposuction and when I found out that it would cost twice as much as what was being spent on the wedding - that's when I started looking at shapewear!
Im only 37 but I hate when I smile AND frown I get those 2 lines between my eyebrows..Botox takes care of that..The minor brow lift u get is just a BONUS!!! I am thinking about getting airbrush make up also..for that flawless look..
@Ktribe808: I have had Liposuction to my stomach, waist and flanks (hips) BEST thing I ever did!!
You're that bothered about frown lines?!? My thoughts tell me that you haven't really lived or seen the world.
I'm 45, so I'm pretty sure I've "lived to see the world", whatever that is supposed to mean. Different things bother different people. Just because someone wants to look better does not mean she has inexperience elsewhere or doesn't understand the importance of other issues. Kind of a rude comment, actually.
I've not done Botox yet, but I have had Radiesse for nasalobial folds and undereye dark circles which have plagued me since I was in my 20's. I think it's one of the best things I've even done for myself, and if you want to do similar, go for it! not sure if 1 month is enough healing time, but if you've done it before without issues, why not. Do what makes you feel good.
@Pia2010: Wow. I've read some snark this evening, but your comment gets my award for today's heaviest dose of uncalled-for judgmental self-righteousness. I tweezed my eyebrows and shaved my legs in my teens because I liked the way it looked and felt. I started using face creams in my 20's because I wanted to take care of my skin. I also had three teeth capped after a wayward cricketball took them out. I dyed away the greys in my hair and waxed my moustache in my 30's. I had a dose of botox in my 40's because I wanted to retain a youthful look. I have another appointment booked before my wedding because I love the way I look after having it, not because my lines' bother me.' I have sun spots on my face and arms and stretch marks too. My stomach is flabby and gravity has done its work on my boobs. This doesn't 'bother me' either.
I have travelled the world (3 filled passports prove it), studied and lived in two other countries for significant periods of time and now live amongst the oldest culture in the world. I am thankful that my thoughts tell me that I don't need to make ridiculous and insulting comments to other people in order to feel good about myself.
I'm past the age of being merely a "mature" bride, tho most can't tell by looking at me. I LOVE my botox & do it regularly. My doc has a weekly Happy Hour & prices are incredibly affordable.
My suggestions would be: 1) find a really good doc! Injecting the stuff properly is a real art & I've had it done poorly, you don't want that. Get lots of referrals.
2) don't get it too close to your wedding day. The effects last 4-6 mos & you want the work to have a chance to settle & take full effect.
One huge plus with Botox is it really helps if you suffer from migraines (I do).
I can't put enough emphasis on getting a really good doc.
Yes. I get Botox regularly (it's a perk of my job)! Will probably do a few other things (IPL/microderms/facials) as I get closer too.
Botox can be bartered! My mom and aunt go to a doctor and they pay him in soup. He is a bachelor and doesnt cook and likes to eat healthy so they go every few months (?) and each bring a gallon of soup for him in payment.
Just thought I would share the secret for those willing to try to barter.
Well, I went to an open house party tonight for all the " non-invasives" and at 54 years old, I am grateful for a little help. Not BoTox but a little Juvaderm around the smile helps a lot. Just the way it is dears.
No Pia, your millions of 'anyones' aren't necessarily narcissitic or suffering from low self esteem or have never travelled or lived or need therapy. Surely you can see how that is an idiotic assumption? It is like asking us to believe that somehow, you are magically aware of every single one of those people's motivations or life experiences. Clever you! But no, we know that you don't have that ability.
Generalised claims like that only reduce an opinion to the ranks of the silly, bitter and uninformed. The beauty of that means they are easy to dismiss. Noone actually minds that you have a dissenting opinion. Do be aware though, that when you express an opinion in such a way, you leave yourself open to others interpreting your own flaws and motivations.
I see that you contributed to another post I was interested in reading (do I get my first brazillian as part of my wedding makeover - I don't know, still a little scarey! More pain and discomfort than botox, and the itchiness afterwards!) http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/brazillians-landing-stips-a-little-there-all-there-what-do-you-do
You say that you do all of the above and get a full brazillian on special holidays. Good on you. It probably makes you feel better about yourself? More attractive or feminine perhaps? Perhaps your pubic hair bothers you (a nasty person might make the completely baseless assumption that you have low self esteem?) I would never assume that just because you purposefully rip out your pubic hair and elected to have a completely bald vagina on special occasions that you needed a therapist or that you were narcissistic.
Some people are happy to remove their pubic hair or have an injection or fix their teeth or eat healthily or exercise or gain further education or do community work in order to feel good about themselves or attractive. More power to those that do any and all of these things. Each is more socially acceptable and emotionally healthy than filtering other peoples lives through baseless prejudices in order to gain a false sense of superiority over others.
I can't really relate, because gravity and age are still on my side, but I think that I would be too scared to have anything done - it seems like the news is always filled with problems about medications, treatments, etc. going terribly wrong for people after the fact, so I'm paranoid about many elective treatments, surgeries, etc.
Also, I LOVE the way that my grandmother looks - she has gray hair, tons of smile lines, and the softest-looking wrinkled skin you'll see. I actually like the idea of looking like that some day. I feel like that's how grandma's are supposed to look. Of course everyone ends up feeling younger than they actually look, but to me, there's something about growing old that is very beautiful :)
My FMIL has had some work done, but it was done very well so it isn't noticeable. She looks great! I don't have any personal problems with it. The only issue is when it (like anything) becomes an addiction. To each their own, IMO.
@indyJEEP: I so agree - Grandmas aging gracefully, with a life well lived evident on their faces. There must come a time surely when the botox or brazillians become just a little impractical to maintain. I've yet to see a real-life woman outside of celebrityville who doesn't look her age as she enters the later stages of life, but then I'm living in a very isolated part of the world at the moment. Who knows if I will ever have another shot of botox? I might, I might not. One day I want to look like a Grandmother - even more so I want to smell like my own Grandmother - that woman seems to just naturally secrete vanilla!
blossom_bee: "Perhaps your pubic hair bothers you"
ROTFL I nearly choked when I read that. Thanks for the laugh.
@blossom_bee: yes yes yes! I just woke up my FH when I broke out in laughter after reading about bald vaginas...
Most of us use skincare which is for our specific needs, right? Anti-aging skincare regimes can run hundreds of dollars to start, and then require replenishing the products at least 4x a year.
Guess what ladies, the Botox financial investment is pretty comparable, depending on where you go & what you have done. And it's indisputably effective.
Oh I miss it... (trying to be frugal) And I think I might miss the side effect of it preventing tension headaches even more, especially during the holidays & planning!
@blossom_bee: I expected to get the narcissistic rant from you - tends to happen when the ego is threatened.
Interesting to see how you try to normalize botox as a progression from shaving legs, using facial creams, dying hair, etc. This propaganda has been promoted for a while now in the media and sad to see so many stupid women buying it. You're a marketing dream.
The fact that you've filled 3 passports and studied doesn't mean you've 'lived' in a real, inner-self, meaningful way. It simply makes you well-travelled and perhaps educated in a particular field.
Your perverted way of deflecting your own behavior relating to botox on to a comment I made on another thread about waxing supports your narcissistic need to fill your own ego.
No Pia. It means that in the gentlest possible way, I called you out on your hypocrisy. Nothing more. Other posters recognised this clearly. Irrational psychobabble doesn't make a dent in the life of a mature woman who is content with her own decisions. I'm not deflecting my own behavior or choices at all - why would I? I'm completely fine with both. 
You may disagree with botox, that's perfectly fine, no one is forcing you to go have it done. Just try and phrase yourself in a more well mannered way so that you don't accidentally come across as a poisonous hypocrite when you attempt to put forward an opposing view. If you want to change a person's views, do you really think that your technique worked? Time to reassess your methods perhaps.
Perhaps we should all live and let live and not turn this thread into another bee-bashing ladies?
Botox as a personal choice is interesting - maybe we should act like the adults (I presume) we all are and treat the discussion and our fellow bees with a little more respect and less personal bashing.
I for one don't like to see this awesome community be turned into something ugly because people get personal and snarky.
@reneeheartssam: I agree. If we can't get our point across politely then there is little point in commenting at all.
@Pia2010: Are you serious? How can you possibly make such a significant judgment on a woman you know next to nothing about? I, for one, do not like botox or radical cosmetic surgery, and it scares the bejeezus out of me, but I'm not going to level the claim that someone is a narcissist (do you even know what that means, by the way?), or that they haven't lived a meaningful life just because they want to make some changes to their own bodies. How can you possibly qualify what a meaningful life is?
But I suspect you must just 'know it when you see it', because you're so wise and have lived in an "inner-self, meaningful way", unlike the millions upon millions of women who have indulged in or considered some cosmetic surgery, and thus only put yourself through the 'correct' sorts of cosmetic improvement. What I really don't understand is how you're assuming you can deduce who has a rich inner life based on very basic, external things and words. Let alone, like I said before, how you can even say what constitutes a rich inner life, and thus tell decisively who has one and who doesn't.
I'm shaking my head here. I can't believe that someone who has posted hundreds of times on this website would stoop to exhibiting such trollish behavior.
@blossom_bee: It would only be hypocritical if i were to get botox. Otherwise, they're two separate things. I also don't post in attempt to change, rather to express a point.
thank you veganglam. IMO They aren't two separate if you consider that both are unnecessary and clearly fall under the category of vanity. Women choose to do them for a variety of reasons, peer pressure, curiosity, insecurity or just plain personal preference. We've had pubic hair for ions and only in the last 15 years has rocking a bald pubic area been vogue. Just like you choose to rock a baldie if bee choses to get botox or some other cosmetic procedure its one thing to be against the choice but you made a silly assumption about her and rightfully got called out about it. The bigger thing would be to admit your error rather than try to rationalize it.
I would like botox under my armpits to stop the sweat! And do you, who cares what others say.
@Pia2010: I'm pretty sure your comments fall under the "threadjacking/assholeness" rule. Clearly you haven't had botox, so I'm not sure why you even opened this thread unless it was just to shvt stir and name call.
RE; BOTOX, I'm not, but I would if I felt I needed it :) I like the under the arm thing!
@Belle2Be: Let's just flag the posts and bow out gracefully :-). No need to take the thread away from the OP by continuing to call out the person taking over...
@crayfish: I didn't flag because I didn't think it was technically flaggable, she's allowed to state her opinion according the the TOS. It really bothered me so I felt the need to post my opinion on her opinion. There really is no need for you to monitor other people's comments, it does the exact opposite of your stated reason and draws things out further.
The threadjacking policy hasn't been posted yet (my net was down most of the weekend ugh). For the record, there is no a**holeness rule.
Sorry we didn't catch the comments about how botox makes you "narcissistic" or suffering from low self-esteem and needing therapy. If we had seen a flag about it earlier, we would've deleted that as a personal attack. But since a number of comments following it responded to the post, I'd rather not delete it at this point.
Since the OP wasn't looking for advice and this thread has no real point, I'm going to close the thread for now.
I dont have any frown lines yet but I get really bad tension headaches from frowning. Botox has been used to help tension headaches for awhile and I always wanted to try this.
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I cant wait to get my botox... My wedding is in April and im getting my botox in March. I have had botox in the past and LOVE IT... Im mostly getting it for my 11's and a bit of a brow lift....