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I was always under the impression it was illegal to remove tags from a dress so that you couldn't see what designer it was.
Every dress shop I went to had the bridal shop's tags on it. They all had designer, style #, and price on them, and colors available.
It just strikes me that something is wrong with that picture.Even if it's how things are done, it just sounds like such a scam type thing to pull on you.
I think if you can go to another shop you should. As ejs4y8 stated it is illegal to remove tags. I have been to some places that don't like you writing the style number down, but I always wrote it down in the dressing room or had my MOH write it down when no one was looking.
You said you have a pic of that dress...at least you know the designer! Another dress shop should be able to help you figure it out if we can't scour the websites and help you out.
That is really odd. I know that at several bridal shops, they WIL change the style name or number on the dress so you cant write it down and search elsewhere (like you cant go to the website??) ie-I went to a very famous shop in NYC. Amazing customer service, but I felt pressured and needed some time to think. the dress I had on was called, according to the hangtag (AND-BTW-I dont think dress shops are supposed to remive the designer label - thats wrong) "Amsale Anyelie" or something like that. I went straight to the website and discovered it was called the Tyler (thats the one I ended up with, albeit from another shop.) A Pronovias authorized retailer did the same thing. I tried on the "Haiti" dress and on the shop hangtag they had written another name. Strange...
That definitely would turn me off in your case - PLEASE post the photo, a lot of bees can pinpoint a dress for you very quickly.
I had an experience with a shop like that. They claimed they were "local designers" yet I saw the same dresses at other stores - with tags that were not from "local" designers.
I think it is completely wrong to do that. As the consumer you have the right to shop around and make sure they are charging you a fair price. My guess is they are probably not if they won't give you any info.
I would go somewhere else. There are plenty of dresses out there and I am sure you will find one you love at a store that deserves your business. Also, one thing to think about - if you are having this much trouble just ORDERING the dress, I would hate to see what you might have to deal with later down the road. Good luck with whatever you decide!!
Definitely try to find the dress elsewhere! You're going to have a relationship with the shop that you go with for the duration of your engagement from the time you purchase through your fittings and alterations up until you pick up your dress for the big day. You don't want to start a relationship with someone who's being shady/withholding from day one. Who knows what other stunts they may or may not try to pull. With all the other things you're going to have on your mind through the planning process, worrying about a shady bridal shop is not something you'll need.
The boards here & Google ought to be able to turn up a style number on your dress. Don't let yourself get painted into a corner by a sneaky tag removing bridal shop.
Good luck!
In my book, Bridal Bargains, 8th Edition by Denise Fields, they talk all about this issue and how you can deal with it. Also how to rat out the store, which I totally would.
Ime, Bridal Shops are sooooo sneaky. It's like their job to be as sneaky as possible.
MC-- San Patrick is a division of Pronovias, if that will help you find the dress. It should---and their dupioni silk is lovely, it's what I'm wearing in 3 weeks! Good luck.
Oh, definitely post a photo of you in it! :) The San Patrick website is quick to browse through, so I'm sure you can easily find your style name. RK Bridal sells San Patrick dresses, so you could also get them to give you a quote. Just a question: did they take any measurements and tell you you'd require a size 20 in that brand? My dress salon advised the San Patrick dresses are a bit "stingy," especially in the waist measurement. They sell up to a US 24, I think, so you will be fine, but you might want to double-check so that you don't end up with one a bit too small...
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Thank you for all of the advice and support ladies! I knew this was shady and ridiculous, I just needed some back-up!
I have emailed a local salon about finding out what dress it is, but I will post it here for your help as well!
The shop I found it at told me it was a San Patrick, and they used the size chart for that company as well as did my measurements and said I would need a 20 to compensate for my tummy (eek!). Anyway, I hope this picture is clear...it has rouging (sp?) on the bust as well as in a criss cross under the bust, its definitely not straight across...I have scowered the Pronovias and San Patrick websites with no luck...but maybe someone out there has come across it in their travels!
PS, don't mind the awful look on my face (clearly I was getting frusturated!)
did I mention I am computer illiterate? hah
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Success! (ala borat)
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Oh it's so pretty!
I wore a Pronovias gown, and the workmanship and quality were spot on. If you buy that dress you will look so lovely!
Gorgeous! I would buy it from someone less shady though (I'm a big believer in not endorsing bad retail behavior). Good luck!
Very pretty dress-- I love it! Perhaps you could call them back, and say that you're interested in getting the dress, but you need to get your mom's opinion first before buying (since she lives far away and can't shop with you blah blah blah), so can they please look up your file and tell you the dress numbers you tried on so you can look them up on Google Images for her. :) haha, hopefully you will get a different person on the phone than you had in person.
On the phone, simply explain that unless they give you the style name, you will be buying your dress from another shop. Just make it clear that they either tell you the information, or they lose your business. Are there other shops that carry San Patrick dresses in your area?
The 'my mom lives far away and can't shop with me, so I need to let her look up the dresses online to give me advice' excuse worked really well for me, while dress shopping in England. Good luck!
Very pretty dress...but it seems to me that by deliberately NOT giving you the actual designer's name or style number they could be trying to either sell you a sample dress at full price or are preventing you from comparison shopping the price of the dress!
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I unfortunately had a similar experience to the one you had, where the shop downright refused to give me the designer or style. I had written down a couple of the designers for dresses I tried on, but they changed the style number so I couldn't look it up...good luck finding your dress!
jhphi: You know that is pretty funny, because I tried that...and its not even an excuse! My mum lives in the Netherlands, and I live in Canada...so she really is far away!!
Anyway, I have gained some ground! The local retailer I emailed said she couldnt find it anywhere on the San Patrick website, and she sent my photo to head office in New York (Kinda nuts eh!?!), and they said it's from their White One line, and its style number 454 from the Silks collection! Yay! The only thing now is that the price she quote me is about $400 more than the shady store...ugh.
Trials and tribulations of being a bride, I'm sure it's some right of passage.
I also just wanted to so thankyou to all of the ladies who have sent awesome advice :)
Here's the link to the actual dress if you like:
http://www.whiteone.es/pdf/w1558884.pdf
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So glad you found it-- although they certainly have Photoshopped in some demon eyes on that girl, haven't they? :)
Have you asked the local retailer if she could at least come close to matching the price quote you got at the other shop? She might surprise you by price matching, if you're lucky... My dres salon here in England ended up waiving the plus size upcharge, plus giving me 10% back as an accessory credit in the shop, to use for my veil/shoes/etc. I could've ordered it from an online retailer for a bit cheaper, but I wanted to support a local businesswoman who had been very helpful when I visited her shop.
Wow, that model is way super crazy looking! It's like she's looking into my soul! I'm burning! AHH.
Well now that you know the dress # and model, call around and see who can get it for you affordably, or see if this nice dress shop would match the stupid dress shop's price. After all, you WANT the dress, and you're willing to buy it. Tell them you want to give them your business but cost is a factor. $400 is a LOT of money. Sometimes if you offer to pay cash (not always recommended) they will knock a % off the cost, too. But then you don't have the safety of a credit card. I do this occassionally for services. It's really pretty, I hope you find it!
http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/bridal-shops-who-cut-out-tags
this is DEFINITELY illegal!!
Glad you found the dress elsewhere :)
I'm almost positive that there are some consumer laws that protect against exactly this sort of thing. I think I have the information somewhere on what the actual statute is and what the appropriate procedures are to report these kinds of practices. Let me know if you are interested and I can look for this info and post it.
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So I'm pretty sure I've found my dress....I'm fairly sure! And the shop I was at wasn't going to tell me the designer, or the style number, or even if they were able to order my size until I was ready to give them my credit card number!! excuse me, but wtf! I normally wear a size 18, and require a 20 in a wedding gown, and they didn,t want to tell me if they could order it until I was in love and ready to purchase...that just seems evil.
And, it really put me off of the shop. Don't get me wrong, the ladies were nice, but I was really not impressed and started to feel like I was being bullied into buying a dress because I may not be able to find it anywhere else. I did manage to find out that it is a San Patrick dress...dupioni silk, and they can get it in my size...but no style#.
Honestly, after the whole secretiveness it has made me more determined to find the dress at a different shop.
Has anyone run into a similar situation while dress shopping?
I may be posting a photo of me in it at some point to see if anyone can help me out with the style!