Calling all law enforcement bees! My FI needs your help!

posted 3 years ago in Career
  • poll: Should he come clean?
    Yes, tell them every embarrassing, incriminating detail : (28 votes)
    85 %
    Yes, but glaze over the really bad stuff : (2 votes)
    6 %
    No, deny any involvement with any criminal activity : (3 votes)
    9 %
    Other- please share your advice! : (0 votes)
  • Post # 3
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    Bee Keeper
    • Wedding: August 2013 - The Liberty House

    I have no experience with this, but I’m with you.

    Post # 4
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    2419 posts
    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

    I can’t speak for the entry requirements for what I presume is a US police force but I fear that his history of drug dealing would rule him out of any police force in the UK. Now it might be that a more lenient view of youthful indiscretions (although drug dealing is rather more than an indiscretion) where you live but for sure, they won’t take a lenient view about anyone who lies. 

    Post # 6
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

    @Dialysate:  I think he has nothing to lose by being honest. If he can get across to them that he was young and silly but has learnt from the mistakes he made when he was very much younger and, importantly, thinks the experience he’s gained from turning over a new leaf if something he can bring to the community then hopefully they’ll recognise his worth. 

    Post # 7
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: September 2011

    I don’t have a law enforcement background but I’ve gone through Federal the security clearance process, which sounds quite the same. With the Feds, the worst you can possibly do is lie, even if the details you’re disclosing could potentially hurt your chances for getting the job.  These details will be uncovered sooner or later; you’d be amazed how thorough these checks can go. If you’re honest about things, you generally have a chance to redeem yourself in the interviews; the folks making the decisions know that people don’t always grow up as angels, and that people learn from their mistakes and can lead an upstanding life even if they had some trouble in their younger years. If you get caught leaving something out, you can kiss that job goodbye, forever.

    You may also want your fiance to make sure his credit is in order, as a lot of these background checks involve a credit check, on the theory that someone who is hurting for money and has a lot of pressure from debt is more likely to steal or take bribes than someone who has no financial problems. Make sure you live within your means, always, but especially the months where the background checks are being done, as they frequently ask neighbors and family members about personal spending habits and recent big purchases, again trying to establish someone’s risk of corruption due to mounting financial pressures.

    Post # 8
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    Busy bee
    • Wedding: June 2012

    I know guys that have gotten on with the police where I live and they are totally honest when they had their interviews. Every force may be different though in what they are looking for. I agree with you, I don’t think lying sounds like a good idea.

    Post # 9
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    Buzzing bee
    • Wedding: May 2013

    Again, I don’t know the US law in this respect but over here, if you are not honest on a job application and the true facts emerge after you have got a job on the basis of this application then you can expect to be dismissed. Regardless of how well you are performing in the job.

    Post # 10
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    2783 posts
    Sugar bee

    @Dialysate:  I’m not a cop but my ex is and I know for a fact that they will give him a polygraph so it’s better to just tell the truth to begin. My ex also told me that they dug up people from his past, literally gfs from high school, old friend and even people who he hadn’t spoken to in years and the police interviewed them. Tell the truth, it is what it is now and you can’t change the past. But don’t lie/leave out details because they WILL find out

    Post # 12
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    Bumble bee

    I don’t know the legalities/particulars of expunging a record, but if everything was expunged is it even available for their review?  I do know I wouldn’t lie maybe I’d say something like, “I was a bit of a rebel as a teenager and have had some things expunged from my record.  I can supply more details if necssary.”

    Post # 14
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    Worker bee
    • Wedding: November 2013

    He might get a polygraph. He should be honest.

     

    And I think that expunged records are still able to be reviewed by some parties. When I was at CPS, I’m pretty sure I could see some expunged things. Not 100% on this though. 

    Post # 15
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    Honey bee
    • Wedding: September 2011

    Having a record expunged means different things in different jurisdictions but it very rarely means the records 100% go away forever.  Usually it just means these offenses are no longer part of the public record; if you’re applying for a civilian job, you don’t need to list them, but there is a higher standard for law enforcement officers, as well as those seeking a government  security clearance, public office, and so forth (and there should be a higher standard for folks in those positions).  There has actually been bills introduced, but never passed, to change the way some offenses are handled during expungement; not sure if drug charges would qualify though, but it’s a moot point since the bills never passed into law.  Read up on the Second Chance Act if you want http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Chance_Act_(2009)  but the short answer is that expungement =/= no one will ever know about your record ever again.

     

    Post # 16
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    Sugar bee

    @Dialysate:  he does work for LAPD so I’m sure that’s part of it but from what I hear, that’s pretty standard. They even asked him crazy stuff like what kind of porn he watches and what websites he goes to to watch!!!!

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