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The ridiculously hot weather is enough to keep me away, lol! I like hot, but I don't like 120 degrees hot; I'm too much of a wuss!
My sister lives in Tuscon and doesn't really like it. Besides the weather, Arizona has a certain political atmosphere that doesn't really mesh with her personal political beliefs. She's hoping to relocate close to my family in the next couple years, but since she's in the military, relocation is never certain.
I did a quick Google search for Pheonix crime rates, and this website popped up. It might be helpful: http://phoenix.gov/police/crista1.html.
@Mrs. Spring: Thanks, I will check out that link. I also agree 110+ is a little too hot but we feel limited on places to move to. I want year round sunshine, winters no cooler than 50-60 degrees, limited rain, and definitely no snow/ice. I know southern California would be ideal weather but way too expensive! We want to live in a 3-4 bedroom newer house with a 2 car garage and big fenced backyard not an apartment or condo. We really would like Florida (the northern and Gulf coast parts are very affordable) but that move would cost us 8-10K or more. AZ is just a much cheaper move....
What about northern California? Already close to where you live and the whole Sacramento area is similar to what you're looking for: hot summers, warm winters, no snow, they do get rain but this winter they got way more rain than what they usually get, affordable suburb areas, etc... The only problem with CA is that they do have higher taxes than most (all?) states, and coming from Oregon, that might be a shock. :) Hmmmmmmm, or Oklahoma? Reasonable living prices, similar weather (maybe a little snow, but not much), etc...
I don't mean to be a downer on AZ; lots of people love living there! I just saw no one had responded, and thought I would try to help you out.
I grew up in Phoenix. Also lived in Tucson for 7 years (approx. 2 hours south of Phx).
To answer your Qs about Phx . . .
Is Arizona a nice place to live and raise a family? We have a toddler so I am concerned with schools, safety etc. Like anywhere else, check out the different neighborhoods and school districts. Some areas are rough. Others are very new and safe. I'd check out the crime stats too. It's a big city and there is crime. Growing up, I didn’t experience any violent crime. Our house was robbed 2x - but it was just teens from the neighborhood going through all the houses in the area (not that it makes it any better - teens vs. career criminals).
The rental prices are way less than up here from what I've seen. FI could transfer with his work and I'm a SAHM. Rents were less $$ in AZ than any other place I have lived. Again, just watch the neighborhood. Some are more expensive than others. I can't comment on which neighborhood to look at anymore. Every time I go back, there are new developments and massive sprawl. Also, realize your air conditioning bill will be high. Growing up, ours was almost as high as our mortgage. Many homes have pools too - so this is another monthly upkeep cost if you go this route.
Are people generally friendly to non Hispanics? Yes. I always recall a mix of cultures. I'm Caucasian. We learned Spanish in school which was nice. Phx. does tend to be very conservative. Tucson is less so (college town) and has a lot of hippies.
I love hot weather and sunshine. You have to love the heat to live there!! :) It's nice to have so much sunshine year-round, but the summers are HOT and dry. Have you experienced a really hot day? Maybe go down in July or August to see what it feels like - if you haven't already. Growing up, I never knew anything else. Since moving away, now when I go back, I just can't handle the heat. I feel like I can't breathe on those really hot days. A day of 120 something would kill me now. Also, the desert can get cold in the winter (well cold for me anyway :)). There's not really other weather issues. There are monsoons - big storms, but that's about it. But, looking back, people just learned to live with the weather - same as people who live in the snow. You don't go out running the summer afternoon, you always have water with you and in your car, you do things in the morning and evening, etc.
There was good outdoor activities - hiking, etc. There were lots of activities for kids. I recall community centers, parks, and community activities.
It has a large snow-bird population - so increases in population in the winter and then people clear out in the hot summer months.
A lot of people absolutely love Phx. and the surrounding areas. However, it was never a good fit for me, which is why I left Phx right after I graduated high school. I wanted out since I was little. I personally didn’t like the suburban sprawl - house after house that all blended together. Strip mall after strip mall. It's not a walking city. I don't know, it just wasn't what I wanted. I ended up moving to NYC and now to LA. But, that's what makes cities great - everyone one is different and has something for each individual personality. If you can, I would spend a week or longer there. Just to get a sense of the different areas, the feel, and the weather.
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Crazy conservative politics.
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I'm moving to CA instead :-)
DH has been trying to convince me to move to Arizona for years. We will be visiting friends in Goodyear (near Phoenix) this August so we'll see how I like it. The housing prices are definitely better than where we are living now, I'm just not sure I would be able to find a job like the one I currently have (its a pretty specific role).
Also, most (I would assume all) houses have air conditioning and either have a pool or have access to a pool. Is there any way you can visit before making a decision?
Thanks for trying to help. We have considered CA but even the northern parts seem to be too expensive, plus I've heard awful things about the schools and state government. We are trying to move to an area where our cost of living would go down from what we're at currently. You can get a really nice rental house $850-$1100 in AZ. The same place would be $1500 and up here in OR. We'd love to save that money towards a down payment. It's a big decision. I'd rather stay here another year and save up for Florida but FI is so impatient and it's now or never for him, lol.
Phoenix is incredible. Really. Chandler, Mesa, Maricopa. All excellent suburbs.
What you have to understand about the heat is that there is a difference between heat in the desert and heat in most other parts of the country. It really is a dry heat. It lacks moisture which causes humidity. So what is 110 there, is not 110 in St. Louis (where I'm from), or along the beaches.
Phoenix has ASU, which I believe is the largest college campus in the country. You are going to have people of all different backrounds, origins, religions, colors, etc. So, while I am a touch put off by your comment of people "being nice to non-hispanics," I'll let it slide to point out that it's not 95% hispanic and 5% other. HUGE melting pot of people.
I am so jealous that you have the ability to move there. I'll visit you any time! :D
@In the media: Didn't mean to offend anyone at all with the hispanic comment. I don't have a racist bone in my body. I was just concerned we might feel out of place if there's a large Hispanic population and we were a minority. Living in OR, there's not much ethnic diversity here compared to a lot of places.
I am so ready for a change. My poor daughter wants to play outside all the time and it's always raining here. I like the idea of being close to southern California, Vegas and Mexico for vacations. I'd love to wake up at 6 AM and go for a hike. We are hoping to make a trip early fall to check it out. What's nice is the airline Allegiant has flights for like $80-$120 from here to Phoenix. Would be easy and cheap to come back and visit family :)
Hmm... I wouldn't really call it "crazy conservative politics". It isn't as much of a "red state" as people tend to think. I actually believe AZ is somewhat moderate (leaning to the right) when you consider all counties as a whole. For example, Tucson and the rest of Pima County tend to lean left (see Gabby Giffords, elected Democrat). I guess the only thing that most people in AZ really agree on is illegal immigration -- but you get that when you live right at the border and experience it firsthand. And it's not like the debate seeps into their every day lives, that's way overdramatic.
OP, I think your view of AZ is a bit narrow. People are certainly kind to "non-hispanics" -- there are lots of races and cultures there. I actually never saw or experienced racism firsthand until I moved to the East Coast -- and I lived in AZ for over two decades. In fact, the thing I loved most about AZ was the people. People were super kind, very friendly. Strangers wave and say hello rather than shoulder you out of the way to get where they're going. Small town atmosphere for sure.
I personally am not a big fan of Phoenix, it's a HUGE city and very, very hot. Many places in AZ are much more reasonable in temperature (Tucson is usually about 10 degrees cooler; northern AZ is much cooler as well). In Southern AZ, winters definitely get colder than 50-60 though. 30-40 is not uncommon, and nights are almost always below freezing in the middle of winter.
@sweetkate: lol, you will definitely get a taste of the REAL AZ visiting Phoenix in August. Be ready to sweat :)
My sister just came back from living in Polacca (WAY out there) and liked it. It's definitely a change for us east-coasters (any coasters for that matter!). She was able to haul off and go to insane beautiful parks to hike on a whim. The only thing about Arizona that concerns me (well Phoenix/Tucson at least) is that it's a desert and environmentally speaking, not really equipped to handle the population/development that it does. And, my sis seconded PP comments about sprawl and jobs being difficult to find. But--people have been living there for quite a while now, and it seems to have worked so far.
I was born and raised in Tucson, and while I would love the opportunity to leave someday, I know I would come back eventually. I hate the heat, I truly do (of course I dream of the gray skies of the Pacific NW, haha!) but it is pretty amazing to live in a place where the sun shines (insert exaggeratingly high percentage) of the year.
Yes, Arizona get a bad rep for it's politics, but obviously not everyone is like that.
I was raised to hate Phoenix for the sheer fact that ASU is there (Go Cats!! Hehe!) but it does have some great culture and shopping.
Lastly, like you said, you have access to California, Mexico, Vegas, and surrounding mountains for close, cheap, great vacations without the high cost of actually living in those places!
We should house swap, lol. I've always been a sunshine girl. I grew up spending summers in Florida and I always knew I'd move away from the NW. Now is really the time before my daughter starts school. I'd still prefer to be close to a beach but I figure you can't have it all. How are the lakes there?
I was born and raised here in Arizona so I will give you my perspective.
Weather: If you want sunshine, we have a lot of it. It gets hot, not gonna lie. It's the opposite of the cold winters of the Midwest. They stay in during the winter, we stay in during the summer. We have a swimming pool and use it often. Winters are mild, I own a wool coat but rarely get to use it. Most of the time a sweater is good enough.
Scenery: The desert is absolutely georgous. We have some beautiful high country that people escape to during the summer and has snow in the winter as well.
Politics: Hrm... Let's just say we haven't had great governors here since I can remember. I love it here despite the crazy politicians. Young people don't get out and vote enough in my opinion.
Culture: There is a large hispanic population here being a neighbor to Mexico and all. I am of mixed heritage (hispanic and caucasion) and my fiance is Jewish. I don't feel that we are treated any differently than anyone else. There are so many different cultures here and I like that.
Safety: We live in an older neighborhood in the East Valley and I feel safe living there and staying by myself when my fiance goes out of town. I will say that we plan on moving to a younger neighborhood when(if) we are able to sell it. I'd like a house that is less of a fixer upper in a quiet neighborhood. Just like any city, you are going to have shady people and neighborhoods with more crime. You will also find there are many nice newer neighborhoods. It's such a mix here.
I hope this helps.

I don't think the OP's comment about wanting a town who was friendly to non hispanics is a racist comment. There is a stereotypical attitude that the media pushes (all media, not just the news) about border towns and how outsiders are treated. There are small border towns in So Cal where outsiders don't always feel so welcome. And it isn't just hispanics, and this isn't racist. I lived in Hawaii for 5 years. They don't like outsiders. Not every individual was unfriendly, but the majority were. It's just how it is. The same can be said for certain towns all over the country.
I spent some time in Yuma in the summer. It was HOT. I mean, we hit 110 here in the summer (CA) but Yuma was dreadful.
I visited there with my sister in July 08. We nicknamed it Hell because it was 120 degrees outside. When it's that hot, humidity doesn't matter. Yes, it was sunny, but I'd rather not have 100+ degree weather regularly during the summer. I will say that I only visited for a few days, but she stayed for several weeks. She now lives in Seattle and prefers Seattle clouds to Arizona heat.
A couple I'm friends with from Michigan moved to a suburb of Phoenix and they think its great. They just love the warm weather (although I couldn't handle that shit, it sounds miserable) and everything about it. I don't really know about race relations, though. My friends are white and they've never complained about anyone hating on them for being white.
Hmm..about the politics, I'm kind of on the fence. I used to be very liberal but I've noticed since having a child I lean more towards the conservative side. It really depends on the issue, I'm somewhere in the middle. I don't think the conservative nature of the state will bother me much. How are the gun laws? FI really wants to get one for home protection.
@7-9-11bride: My fiance and I own guns for home protection and for when we go camping. Arizona is pretty relaxed on gun ownership. Before we purchased ours, we decided to get some training so we got some lessons from my step-dad (who was a firearms trainer in the Air Force). Then we took the concealed carry classes, when it was still required. When we purchased ours there was a background check. We practice every so often, keep them put away, and locked up when children are in the house.
I grew up in Mesa (a suburb of Phx) and my family still lives there. I was a pre-teen when we moved, but I think Arizona is as nice a place as any to raise a family. Like anywhere else, you just have to find the right neighborhood. However, as a teacher I can't say that Arizona's school system is all that great. Personally, I feel that the state legislature doesn't think much of public education and greiviously under-funds schools. I think kids can still get a pretty good education, but it frustrated me as an educator.
I agree with others that the state is pretty conservative. I think that many of the actual citizens might be more moderate, but the decisions and bills that are made into law are definitely more conservative. Like others also said, I don't think you need to worry about race issues. At least while I lived there/where I lived the majority of the population is still white.
And, as I'm sure you're understanding by now, Phx is HOT. It is hands-down the hottest place I've ever lived. You can definitely visit in the summer months, but as someone used to other temperatures you will feel like it's unbearable (I feel that way now when I visit family). I think you just gradually get used to the heat and adapt to spending a lot of time inside/in a pool/letting your car run for 10 minutes to get the air conditioning going so you can touch the wheel. So, yes rent is cheaper, but you have to budget in the high cost of constant air conditioning for 3-4 months. On the flip side, the fall/winter months are magnificent (my husband wants to snowbird when we're older and we love visiting for Christmas & hanging out in shorts).
There's lots of good things about Arizona and I thought it was a great place to live. Good luck with your choice!
I live in Phoenix and love it. I grew up in Seattle and like you my family got tired of the clouds and cold. I think it was the best decision my family could of made. I live in North Phoenix in a newer neighborhood and the area is very safe. The schools are rated very high in my area. Phoenix is huge and there are several suburbs. There are bad areas and great area's like most cities. You really should do some research. I've lived in Mesa as well and had no complaints. The months of June, July and Aug are really hot!! Most people stay in or are at a pool or lake. Every place is air conditioned and you must have a car with AC as well. You really get used to it though. Now I'm a wimp when it comes to cold. When we first moved here in Feb we were out in the pool and wondered why no one else in the apt complex was!! haha, I'm sure it would be too cold for me now. I don't like the political environment too much either being from Seattle but none of it has effected my life and when I feel strongly about something I go out and vote. The gun laws are relaxed here. You can carry a unconcealed gun or get a permit for a concealed on easily. Good luck with your research. Feel free to ask me any other questions.
Thanks for the info! We are interested in Surprise, Gilbert or Peoria in particular. Being a SAHM I'd love to live in a planned community with a playground, pool, walking trails etc. Seems like a good way to meet other families. I'm very social and the thought of moving somewhere we don't know a soul scares me a little. I'd assume the high summer AC bills may be offset by the low winter bills? Here we have high electric Nov- April and then a semi high bill for AC June- Aug.
My parents are currently in the process of purchasing a vacation home in Awatukee. (Right near Chandler, suburb of Phx)
I am from Dallas/Fort Worth and have lived here the majority of my life. I HATE IT! I'm sure you could find tons of people that would love it here! Just the same as Arizona! :) I just came back from a mini vacation a few months ago to see the neighborhood my parents were looking at buying a home and I fell in LOVE. While I've traveled to Arizona many times, this place just melted my heart! I am fast tracking things to move on out there! There are so many outdoor activities to do and the Chandler/Awatukee area was adorable! I love the spanish style houses, I love the mountains, I love the walking trails, the cactus, even the beautiful flowers I saw growing everywhere. I would TOTALLY raise a family there! Don't even get me started on the prices...I mean for the same cost to buy a beautiful new 4 bedroom home, I would barely be able to purchase a 25 year old 2 bedroom dump here in Dallas! I get the complaint about the heat- if you don't do heat you may not like it. I personally HATE humidity- I don't even step foot outside during July/August here in DFW unless I'm walking to my car. On the other hand, I love dry heat! 120 degree dry day? No problems here! It doesn't feel the same and IMHO it's much more tolerable. Bring it on!!
Best of luck to you!!
I agree about the dry heat being more tolerable. I can only handle humid muggy weather if I'm close to the beach, I love the ocean. When I lived in the southern part of Oregon we'd frequently get 100+ weather in the summer. I loved it. Where we live now it never gets that hot and its rarely sunny. Overcast and 75 is common in July.
I currently live in Mesa, AZ. Not the best place to live but when I lived with my mom in Gilbert, AZ (east valley) it was really nice. If you are thinking about Gilbert check out the Islands Elementary. I went to school there and it was good then and my sister just left that school and went to middle school (Mesquite Junior High). Last year I graduated from Mesquite High School. The Islands neighborhood is quite nice but then again most of Gilbert is. I work in Ahwatukee (near chandler/south phoenix) and I love going there. Lots of shops open and just in general very nice. I heard good things about the schools there too.
I am not a fan of Mesa, Glendale, Laveen, and Apache Junction. Some parts of those cities arent that great and I wouldn't live in most parts. Like some PP mentioned, check out the crime statistics online, I am sure you will find them.
Good luck and I advice you to visit here one day to see how you really like the heat :D
We currently live in AZ, the Mesa/Gilbert area. The people are great, the drivers can be crazy, the heat is almost a constant, but the winters are gorgeous. Great family area.
However, if you are looking for entertainment, there doesn't seem to be much to do unless you are willing to spend. Then again, I'm from Utah where there are mountaints and lakes and various activities every which way you look.
We plan on moving back to UT next year.
@7-9-11bride: My sister actually lives in Medford OR now and is also talking about moving on out to Arizona sometime soon. She said this year has been just cruddy and is hardcore affecting her mood. Although I thought Oregon was so pretty out near Jacksonville- I wouldn't be able to handle it either. Especially when you have a little that just wants to go outside and play!
@Lala61111: Yep I used to live in Medford and the weather has been getting worse the past few years I've heard. I now live in Eugene which is just ugh, grey all the freakin time. Today is June 7th and we didn't even hit 60 degrees and of course we've had showers off and on all day. Getting nervous for my outdoor wedding next month.
I live in Az. And I love it yes it gets hot but you get used to it...our winters are great! I'm my opinion I wouldnt want to raise my children anywhere else....but that is just my personal opinion! :)
I used to live in AZ when I was younger, in Tucson, and my family all still live there. DH and I are trying to move down there soon as well. I love it, and absolutely hate MN and the winters. Yes the summers are hot, but it is a dry heat, as I know PP's have stated, and that truly does make a difference. 120 is 120, and yes very hot, but 105+ with 80-90% humidity feels worse, IMHO. Winters there can get a bit chilly, it'll drop to 30-40 over night, sand isn't so good at maintaining heat once the sun goes down. It will sometimes snow in the winter too, though it's usually a light dusting of snow, that doesn't last long. As for the safety, it's the same as any large city really, I can't speak much about Phoenix, but I never have felt unsafe in Tucson, or at least the area's I tend to hang out/stay in.
Thanks for the replies. FI and I are hoping to make a trip down in Sept or Oct to check it out. I can deal with 30 degrees overnight, it gets colder here in the winter. I assume during the day even if its 50 degrees it's still sunny right? Here is cold, rainy and grey. I can deal with a little bit of cold if the sun is shining. Plus I don't think that's too cold to go play outside with jeans and a light jacket. I'm so excited!
phoenix has 4 seasons. warm, hot, really hot, and ARE YOU KIDDING ME!?!?! i prefer warm but i stay inside all the time. if youre getting an apartment talk to the tenants first we have a lot of slum lord. many complaexs have bed bugs and some are really nice. remember you get what you pay for and its sooooo true...
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FI and I are considering a move there this winter. We are sick to death of the constant grey skies of the Pacific NW. Is Arizona a nice place to live and raise a family? We have a toddler so I am concerned with schools, safety etc. The rental prices are way less than up here from what I've seen. FI could transfer with his work and I'm a SAHM. Are people generally friendly to non Hispanics? We are looking at the Phoenix suburb areas. I love hot weather and sunshine. Any bees live in Arizona or are familiar with the state? Thanks so much.