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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    I know that in the grand scheme of things, it's not that important, but I think I feel bummed about the lack of showers and presents because it's so built into the whole wedding experience (okay, the wedding industrial complex).

    Yes, I know I shouldn't be materialistic, and it's not the gifts, but the fun that I'm bumming on missing out on too.

    We've been engaged since the December 2010 holidays, and we had to keep it downlow because of work.  But once we were out, no one offered to throw a party, so we didn't have one.

    And I don't think that there'll be a shower because my bridesmaids seem to be in debt up to their ears now (btw, I'm not having them buy dresses or anything), and my sister is in college.  One bridesmaid keeps saying things like, "I don't think people are going to give you any gifts - people are cutting back nowadays."  Guess I'll have to nix an out-of-town bachelorette given that!

    We registered for gifts a year ago, and no one has bought a single gift (EDIT I said this because it sounds like other brides do receive gifts beforehand because of showers and such).

    My mom isn't one of those fussy moms, so she hadn't been super involved until I paid her after she was laid off so she could help me with some planning I was too busy with work to contend with.  My sister hasn't called much or provided many ideas even though she works in event planning.

    Am I a bad person for feeling bummed on missing out on this stuff?

     
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    LuvMySailor    September 24, 2011  

    @zagora:  No you are not. So there is no one to throw you a shower whatsoever? No aunt or cousin? I was bummed because we didn't receive as much as I had hope. I'm not going to lie I was hoping for the $4k that my friend got at hers. We got about half that. What's important is that you are marrying your life love.

     
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    sara_tiara    August 25, 2012   Toronto, ON (Wedding in London, ON)

    I don't think it's unreasonable to feel that way at all. I think we all have certain expectations of the way the whole wedding process will go, and when things don't go that way it's only natural to feel disappointed.

    One thing I will say is May 2012 is still VERY far away in terms of gift-buying....I'm lucky if I buy a wedding gift a week before the weddings I go to-it's usually the day before, or even the day of. It's just not really on my radar until then. So don;t worry too much about the gifts.

    If you are worried about showers, etc I really think you should talk to your girls.....a lot of people think a shower has to be a big, expensive to-do, and that might be what's throwing them off. Maybe tell them that you would be fine with something smaller if that's what they can afford. Maybe they just don't want to let you down?

     
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    KatNYC2011    September 24, 2011   London, UK (american expat)

    I didn't have a shower, and at first I was bummed out about it. But it didn't make sense to have one because there weren't enough people in one place to warrant a shower and since everyone had to travel for the wedding, it felt not right to ask people to travel just to give me gifts too.

    As for nothing being bought off the registry yet, don't worry about it. We got a few things right after putting our registries up but the vast majority came in the few weeks before and after the wedding.

    Also, my bachelorette ended up getting cut super short and people couldn't come because it happened to be in NYC the same weekend as Hurricane Irene. That really sucked too especially since my own sister (MOH) couldn't risk coming and getting stuck in NYC.

    But, despite all that, my wedding was amazing, the guests were very generous, and looking back everything turned out great. 

    I completely understand feeling down right now, I've been there. (((Hugs))) to you.

     
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    les105    May 6, 2012  

    Could they throw you a pot luck shower? Not necessarily asking every guest to bring food, but they could have it at someone's house, each bring an app, and a few other women youre close to (mom, aunt, whatever) could each bring something. They could do email invites, just serve coffee & punch, etc. It wouldn't cost much. I threw my sister a baby shower for $75, if those costs would've been split several ways, it would've been really cheap. Ps sorry you're feeling this way :(

     
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    reebee    November 12, 2011  

    I don't think people normally start buying you gifts off of your registry until they are invited to either a shower or your wedding, so I'm not sure why you are upset that nobody has gotten you a gift yet.  I agree that showers don't have to be expensive, and perhaps your friends are just trying to keep it a secret, but you may want to ask your mother or sister if they have heard anything about a shower and if you BMs aren't planning to do one maybe you can help your mom/sister plan it.  I definitely scaled back my bachelorette party because I wanted to make sure that certain friends would be able to attend, which I have no regrets about at all. 

    I think your BM's comments about people not getting gifts because of the economy is simply not true (I live in the DC area as well and I didn't experience anything like that), though maybe she is preparing your for the fact that she doesn't plan to get you a gift because of her personal financial situation.

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    Thanks for the responses.  They're definitely making me feel better.

    Is it appropriate, though, to even say something to my friends?  I feel bad asking them, "will you throw me a small potluck shower" for some reason.  If it's fairly common to initiate and ask, I can definitely do that.

    My sister and mom are each in different states than me, and I don't have any aunts or other female relatives in the country - so it's just friends.  Some of my bridesmaids are out of state too.

    With regard to the registry, I just meant that there haven't been any engagment parties or showers, hence no gifts yet.  (Although as I said, one bridesmaid is saying I shouldn't expect to receive gifts at the wedding, given the economy...)

     
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    Josina    August 25, 2012   Iowa

    Since you're wedding is in May they may not even be planning it yet (or maybe they are and just not telling you, a surprise?)... I would assume the shower/party would be in April, invites out in March? If you still think they're not doing anything I would talk to your maid of honor about starting with plans or hand out a list of people you want to invite so they understand that you are planning on receiving a shower.

    A friend of mine whose wedding I was in actually rented a hotel conference room for the party, and then we (the bridesmaids) took care of everything else - cold sandwiches (ham and turkey with fresh buns and all the condiments), salads, cake, chips, etc. We probably spent less than $100 but it was still a great party.

    As for gifts off the registry... I wouldn't expect gifts till the wedding? But it's not common to get/give engagement gifts in my family/friends.

     
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    little_cricket    August 11, 2012   Bay Area

    I don't think you're a bad person at all for feeling like this! I'm so sorry you're going through this. I'd definitely feel bummed if showers weren't being thrown for me (which I think is going to happen). I'm sure there's lots of advice on how to hint to your bridesmaids and family that it's important to you but I can't really think of anything at the moment. Just keep in mind, at the end of this, you'll be with wife of the many you love. ((hugs))

     
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    les105    May 6, 2012  

    @zagora:

    I know how you feel about not wanting to ask for parties. I feel that way, too. I actually was sure my friends would not throw a shower or bachelorette party for me. They're not exactly the best planners, they have a lot going on in their lives right now, and we all live far away. I told my fiance that I was kind of bummed, and his response was something like "These are your close friends. Be honest with them, they're not mind readers. You're not expecting them to shell out a lot of cash. Just tell them 'Hey guys, I really love the idea of having a party/get together to celebrate getting married, would you be interested in putting something together? I can help with money/plans'". I thought it was very wise of him. Your BMs are supposed to be your nearest and dearest. Just tell them how you feel and let them know you understand & respect their financial & personal situations, but you'd love if you could all work together and plan a day to celebrate with the girls. To my surprise, my girls actually offered to throw me a shower without me asking for it. They had assumed my mom was throwing me a shower, and when they asked when I thought it would be, I said "She's not planning to throw me one, I'm kinda bummed" and they offered up "Oh, well, we'll throw you one then, you should definitely get one!"

    BTW, one compromise I did make was agreeing to have my shower on the Saturday before Easter, that way all my OOT guests & BMs would already be in our hometown visiting family for Easter. Maybe you could work something like that out, too :)

    Good luck, and know that, even if you don't get a shower, people don't love you any less!

     
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    ohmybears48    September 28, 2013   Chicago, IL

    I think you can bring it up tactfully... like "So, I was thinking that since times are tough, we should have a potluck for my shower at one of yours or my houses instead of a catered one. Plus, I have a ton of time in March, so I can help you guys plan. How does that sound?" 

    And I agree with PP that you registered too soon to be getting gifts. Most people, unless you have an engagement party, wont even look for your registry until they are invited to a shower or wedding.

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @ohmybears48:  Thanks!  :)

    We registered early (heck, my invitations were addressed mid-year) because we work in politics and we knew this year would be ridiculous.

     
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    atalante    May 19, 2012  

    Aw. Pity party hug. :(

     
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    shannonh32    September 8, 2012   Michigan

    I personally feel like everyone should get a wedding shower. It’s part of the whole wedding experience and (most) people only get married once! If no one is willing to throw you one / can’t afford it then throw your own! Make it small and only invite your BM’s and family. A shower doesn’t have to be big and extravagant. You can have a small backyard barbeque or a brunch at a restaurant nearby. Or like someone mentioned above: make it a potluck style. Have everyone bring a dish! I am sure that there are plenty of smaller / cheaper items on your registry that your in debt bridesmaids can afford. Or just tell your bridesmaids that they don’t have to buy you a gift. Just because they can’t afford it doesn’t mean you should have to suffer or that the other members of your family can’t afford it!

     
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    dashwoodgirl    September 2, 2012  

    @zagora:  I am sorry about that OP.  Luckily, my sister is my MOH and is a bit older and very invested in my shower.  I wish you had someone to do that for you!  I am in DC too, so I will say this, if you don't have someone gun-ho like my sister, it can be difficult to find affordable venues!  I hate to hijack your thread, but where would you think to have a shower if it was in DC?  Everything seems costly, and maybe that is why your girls are having trouble pulling something off?

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @dashwoodgirl:  Honestly, I would be thrilled with a mani-pedi girls' day in and some inexpensive booze and maybe a pizza from 2 Amys! I don't think my family would make it, but maybe just DC friends could.

    EDIT:  @everyone:  Thanks for your feedback - I really, really liked your ideas and suggestions.  I think I'm also bummed in part because of the family aspect.  My mom just moved from NC to CO, and while she lived far away before, she's ever further away now and getting settled into her new life.

    I think I'm going to focus on organizing a fun bachelorette two days before the wedding so people will already be in town.  May try to organize a girls' getaway (non-wedding related) just for fun.  :)

     
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    CassandraC       Montreal, QC

    Aww, sorry you're feeling that way! I do think a lot of that part of it gets hyped up so even if you don't *want* to expect it, you still kind of do, and it hurts to hope for something you think might not happen.

    I think the suggestion others have made is a good one, saying something like "You know, I was thinking it would be really great to get together with all of my girlfriends for some kind of shower to celebrate the wedding; maybe we could have a little potluck/lunch at someone's house?" Your friends may not realise how much this means to you, and the possible pricetag might be throwing them off if they've a)never been involved in planning a party like this or b) have seen *huge* showers that are beyond what they know they can afford.

     

     
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    All In    November 1, 2011  

    You could have a shower with just token gifts rather than anything expensive, so people can still show their love/support even if they are struggling financially

     
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    ViaMinorViator    November 26, 2011  

    I think the problem lies with your EXPECTATIONS.  Did you expect that getting married meant that you should be lavished with parties and gifts on a very regular basis?   I really don't see how any of those things have anything to do with the reason you are getting married, do you? 

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @ViaMinorViator:  Thanks for your feedback.  It seems like I must have invented the tradition of a shower in my head.  Apparently they're never done.

    Thanks for setting me straight.

     
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    dashwoodgirl    September 2, 2012  

    A Two Amy's pizza sounds delicious!

    I just tried the new Hamilton Restaurant on 14th and F and I gotta say it will NOT disappoint your friends! Excellent cocktails and really great food.  I would highly recommend for a big dinner party maybe a few days out and then to go out from there?

     
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    sweetcrackers    November 3, 2012   St. Louis, MO

    Agree with PPs... even though your engagement has been "out" for some time, if your wedding is in May it is no surprise you haven't had showers or gifts yet. That's 4 months away! I've never been to a shower more than 2 months out from a wedding date. And I've been to many surprise showers. We all deliberately bought our gifts off the bride's registry the day before, so she wouldn't suspect anything.

     
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    dashwoodgirl    September 2, 2012  

    @ViaMinorViator:  This is a bit out of line IMHO. 

    Of course the OP wants to be married and loves her fiance, but it is an amazing feeling to be surrounded by a strong group of women who want to make you feel as special as they felt before their weddings.  Honestly, I am young and I have been to plenty of bachelorette and showers and I would NEVER let a friend or family member of mine get married without this recognition.  I am so very excited for my shower and bachelorette and I can definitely sympathize with the OP on feeling like she is missing out.

    I think this is a case where you sort of need to take initiative.  Send e-cards or cute shower invites and meet up at Two Amys for DC friends!  Or anywhere you guys love!  Dive barish- but the upstairs loft of the Mad Hatter has tables and welcomes engagement/showers with no cost.  That could be fun ;)

     
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    dashwoodgirl    September 2, 2012  

    OP- I also have another idea for you.. DC is brunch central right (haha jk but I do love brunch and this video):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuPwy77scvw

    Well, maybe you could have a shower brunch?  Cheaper option for everyone and a restaurant with nice lighting for pictures... Perhaps Scion?  Just thinking out loud.

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @sweetcrackers:  Your post just made me realize we're 3 months out this weekend.  ZOMG!

    Well, again, folks are all over the place, so it would have to be organized soon because of my schedule and theirs. 

    BUT - I'm just going to accept it's not going to happen, prod a DC-based BM to see if she can organize maybe a low-key pizza night for local girlfriends and be happy.

     
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    bells    June 26, 2011  

    I agree that most people dont give wedding gifts way ahead of the wedding. Usually most gifts will be given in the  last couple of months leading up to the wedding, the wedding date itself and a few months afterwards. I didnt have a shower and I didnt receive a single gift until the wedding day and then I got a lot of cash since I didnt have a registry and a few gifts and they kept pouring in for a while after the wedding.

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @dashwoodgirl:  YES!  Let's do a Weddingbee DC brunch!

     
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    dashwoodgirl    September 2, 2012  

    @zagora:  That would be lovely!

    Honestly though hun, don't get discouraged.  Life is so busy (especially for DCers), and often we find out that people are not thinking about our wedding as much as we are!  I would send an e-invite or cute affordable shower invites and just have brunch! Pitchers of mimosas, omlettes, pastel colors- I can see it working out beautifully.  You can discuss price cap with venues (maybe 20/person), and have a great time. 

    Another thought- the back area or Vinoteca would be perfect!  Maybe even the upper level of Rock and Roll Hotel.  Honestly there are so many wonderful options that people would get psyched about.

     
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    LibertyBelle    October 2013  

    @dashwoodgirl:  I actually don't think it was completely out of line in terms of the idea presented, though perhaps pushing it in terms of wording.

    I do think there's some level of balance needed in terms of trying to understand expectations and what others might be expecting.  First of all, are the women in the wedding party from backgrounds that are big on showers?  It's a legitimate question, especially in the DC area where no one is really "from" DC.

    I am from a culture that does bridal showers, but even reading this thread, I don't feel like I could connect to most of you guys when it comes to expectations.  I'm not from a poor background by any means, but almost everything I see here as mentioned for a toned down affair is the norm in my experience.  I haven't been to one in probably 7 years, so if the standard shower is now expected to be catered and at a unique venue with sizable rental fees, then I don't blame bridesmaids on a budget for not knowing quite how to handle the situation.  I think they especially deserve a break this far out if they are potentially trying to balance expectations with what they can do.

    I also think it gets very messy for someone who might be thinking of planning something like this when some default key guests like family are so far away.  My family is also spread across the country at this point, so I wouldn't even wish it on any of my friends to try and pull them all together for a shower with them.  At that point, as a hostess, you're now tasked with asking people to spend even more money to travel just to bring a gift to the bride who they will be seeing again at the wedding.  If the bride has ever mentioned the financial issues with her family that she hints at here, then I can see where that would be uncomfortable to even ask.

    Given that the OP also mentioned she was initially planning on an out-of-town bachelorette party, I think it's fair to remind people to weigh expectations versus what the people you've asked to step up can really do.  I know plenty of people who have had great mini-vacations with the girls, but I seriously can never envision a situation where I would actually expect someone to plan and do that for me.

    Just because I have also been to some lovely showers and had a blast putting on bachelorette parties for friends, I don't expect any of these things because of many of the issues that the OP's family and friends seem to facing.  If we decide to even have attendants at our own wedding, I'll be asking two people who won't be able to help me with anything due to distance and finances.  If I ask them to stand with me, it's because their friendships have shaped who I am in a positive way, and I want them there with me on that day.  Just because showers are commonly done (apparently significantly more lavishly than I was aware of before now) and out-of-town bachelorette parties are popular doesn't mean that I expect them.  Sure, if either were to ask me to stand with them, I would try to do these things if I could.  It doesn't mean I'd be in anyway hurt or bothered if they couldn't do the same for me.

    I do think that the OP does need to take things into her own hands, though.  If having a celebration with the girls is important to her, then organize one.  Ask people out to brunch, host a gathering in her home, or even just organize a girl-themed happy hour.  Lord knows that DC is the happy hour capital.

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @LibertyBelle:  Further down someone said, "can you ask them for a scaled-back version of a shower?" and I replied with, "honestly, what would be perfect for me would be some at-home mani-pedis with pizza and cheap booze."

    I think you raise a good point overall - I think as an industry or as a complex, there are higher expectations than ever.  (Like the posts on all those wedding websites about the perfect theme and the perfect giveaways for showers, etc., that looked like they were catered by Martha Stewart and cost no less than $500 to throw.) 

    I don't think my expectations are anywhere near that high - I was more speaking to being bummed on missing out on the celebration aspect of it, rather than the "I want a PERFECT shower." I just want a shower with FRIENDS.  That's all I was saying.

    And totally fair (and good) point re: family.  I don't expect my family to come (although folks should be invited), but I need to signal to girlfriends that it's okay if my sister or mom can't make it given their schedules.  I'm sure they wouldn't want for me to not have fun social gatherings just because they're in other states.

    And yes - I think I'm just going to take things into my own hands, and just throw a party.  I'll make it clear it's not a shower (then it'll seem like it's gift-grabby), but I'll throw a few parties here in DC and elsewhere where my friends are, and it'll be fun.  :)

    EDIT:  And if I'm being a big ol' crybaby-jerk, I'm sorry - I just wanted to be able to be honest and down about it for a little bit.  I'm just feeling left out of the tradition that is hyped up so much and posted about frequently, and I'll get over it.

     
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    dashwoodgirl    September 2, 2012  

    Hmm, yeah OP, I don't think your expecations are grand either.  I also don't think my suggestions were over the top as not only is DC happy hour city, it is transforming into brunch city and there are some great affordable deals to be had - without room reservations OR minimum spend.

    I have to say I would agree that what made the PP comment off to me was how it was presented.  I totally understand that many bees on here have varying expectations of how showers/ or no showers play out.  I am just trying to help think of suggestions that could be affordable and fun since I have lived here for seven years now (so yes, not originally from here).

    Honestly, if you are going to host a celebratory party I see absolutely no problem presenting it as your wedding shower if you want.  We all come from different backgrounds with different expectations and local friends can choose not to go if a shower does not meet their personal expectations and views on showers. 

    My background and upbringing has shaped me (and my sister who is planning my shower with no prompting) not only to attend friends' showers, but also to lend a hand and offer to help with organizing, decorations or games if they want them.  Those are my expectations of myself and for my friends/family, and I would see to it they were followed through with.  Did not mean to be mean about anyone else's comments though, I just was trying to put myself in OPs shoes.

     
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    dashwoodgirl    September 2, 2012  

    and again, showers are supposed to be fun!  If people can't make it- if I was your bridesmaid, I would solicit those family members to submit a quick email or card to be read to you on your shower or given to you to read after so you felt like they were there.. just a thought :)

     
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    zagora    May 5, 2012   Washington, DC

    @dashwoodgirl:  Thanks so much for your suggestions!  Really helpful!

     
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    ColeandAmyT    March 7, 2010   Ames, Iowa

    I only had a second, so I didn't read through all of the PPs, but one of my cousins didn't have anyone near by, and her aunt threw her a "card shower" for the wedding. Since it was so hard for people to travel, but the families all wanted to participate, they each sent her a greeting card and a gift card to help celebrate. Just an idea for your girls-- there is no expense at all involved other than the invites!

     

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