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    kelly105    May 19, 2012  

    I'm signing up for the Pre-Cana classes.  Should I admit on the form that FI and I live together?

    What about the classes?  Are they going to ask if we have pre-marital sex?

     
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    pinkfrog    October 20, 2012   South Jersey

    You shouldn't lie.

    That said, the reaction is going to depend entirely on your parish, your priest, etc.  I've seen brides on here whose churches refused to marry them for living together before marriage, whereas our priest doesn't seem to care one way or the other.

    Sex will come up.  Reaction, again, depends on your priest.  Ours didn't bat an eyelash when we talked about it.

     
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    elliestan    October 15, 2011   OK | TX

    i'd be truthful, a priest cannot deny marrying you on the basis of you guys living together. if he does, you need to report him to the archdiocese.

    fwiw, no one asked if we had premarital sex either, but they made broad statements to the group about how even if you guys are sexually active, it would behoove you to stop until marriage. nothing pushy or saying you had to or anything, just a suggestion... they worded it better than i just did!

     
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    Mrs. Fireworks    July 21, 2012   Chicago

    We admitted to it, only because the priest asked for our addresses... and they are the same... haha.

    He just gave us a booklet about living together before marriage. No lecture, nothing.

     

    You should be ok, but be warned that some churches are still in the 1950's mindset and don't approve.

     
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    babylou    October 15, 2011  

    Yeah, we admitted it. It wasn't a big deal. They gave us a special brochure of things to think about/talk about if you're already living together. No one asked us if we had had sex. I would advise against lying about it.

     
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    MUI831    October 22, 2011   Chicago, IL

    We had to sign for the "special" pre-cana which was for couples who are over 30, live together, or already have children.  Since we qualified for 2 of the 3, I think they knew.  It wasn't a big deal at all.  I don't even think it was mentioned in class.

     
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    kelly105    May 19, 2012  

    Thanks guys, I will put our shared address on the pre-cana form and hope for the best.  We don't want to lie about living together, but we want to get married in the church.  I just don't want them to deny marrying us because we live together.

     
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    Shosha1    April 14, 2012   Ottawa, Ontario

    In our course, out of 10 couples, one couple did not live together.  We went in expecting to be shunned for "living in sin", but it was actually a really open environment.  When we met with our deacon, he barely even commented. 

     
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    MissSemi    July 21, 2012  

    I'm not Catholic, but my fiance is and we're going through the Catholic marriage prep process at the local parish (getting married in his home parish but we live together 1,500 miles away). We told the Deacon and church office that we live together, and we had to take an extra section on the FOCCUS survey, and they made some broad statements about couples who live together have higher divorce rates, but that in this economy more people are doing it. After the initial conversation it hasn't really come up again.

     
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    bookworm88    August 4, 2012  

    Why would you consider lying? If you're getting married in the church, at least one of you is committed to being Catholic, so why would you start the sacrament of Matrimony with a lie? Be honest and open with your priest, if he questions why you're living together, give him whatever reason you have.  (You have to justify it to yourself in some way, so there's your reason!) 

    Whether good or bad, lots of people live together before marriage nowadays, you won't be the first he's seen. 

     
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    baletrina    May 27, 2012   Chicago, Illinois

    @bookworm88:My thoughts exactly.  Lying is a sin.  So tell the truth.  Regardless of the outcome. 

    Though the church is strict they have seen it all.  You are not the first and you won't be the last to be living together before marriage.

     
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    OnTheTwelfth    November 12, 2011  

    We also did the "special" Pre-Cana. Nobody "asked" us anything (living together, pre-marital sex, if both of us were Catholic), our Pre-Cana was mostly the couple talking to us, telling us stories, and having us write and talk with each other.

     
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    Sulli301    June 26, 2010   Michigan

    We admitted to it and our priest at the time (he left because of a change in the diocese haha not because of this situation ;P) and he asked us why, etc but it wasn't two bad, about a minute conversation, but boy it felt longer ;P

     
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    mrspw    September 28, 2012   Toronto

    We just went through this yesterday. We met with the priest who is marrying us and we needed to fill out some paperwork. He asked us for our addresses, and my fiance went first - giving him our address. When he asked for my address, I said "Father, we live together. Is that okay?" To which he responded "No, that is not okay. What is the point of getting married then? You're already married..." He asked us if we were having "relations" and when we both bashfully nodded 'yes' he finished up the meeting pretty abruptly and told us we could come and fill in the rest of the paperwork at another time. He clearly did not want to spend anymore time with us.

    Now we're both really concerned that he is going to pull out of the wedding completely.

    It was a pretty awful experience, and quite frankly I would never advise lying to a priest, but in retrospect it might have been better to have told him my work address or my parent's address.

     
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    MaggieL    September 29, 2012   Ohio

    We're moving in together before the wedding...about 4-5 months before. I'm hoping we do our Pre Cana before we do this...so then I won't feel guilty about it! Catholic guilt gets ya every time...just tell the truth, you'll feel worse if you lie!

     

     
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    lamkky    August 11, 2012  

    I would advise against lying.  But be prepared, there are still a lot of priest with a narrow mind on this subject.  They might refuse to marry you in their parish. 

    I didn't know if my sister mentioned they lived together prior to wedding.  But she had an unplanned pregnancy while planning for her wedding.  We literally had to hide her bump at the wedding (she was 4-5 months pregnant at that point so the bump starting to show)  The priest seemed like a cool guy so he might be okay with it, but the church coordinator was a nightmare to deal with.  (P.S. they didn't get married at the parish they normally go to)  Apparently she was pretty well known by our community as a bad representation of Catholic. 

     

    We didn't want to risk any chances of not being able to do the ceremony there as my parents were dying to see them get married in a church.

     

    So prepared if you guys have to find another parish to do the ceremony.

     
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    HappyCrickets    June 4, 2011   Cleveland, Ohio

    Our priest actually assumed we were living together already since it's so common these days and was surprised when we told him we didn't.  I'm sure different priests react differently but there's a good chance it won't be as big a deal as you're dreading.

     
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    Maggeroni    July 7, 2012   Corona del Mar, CA, wedding in Santa Fe, NM

    Don't lie - it will just make things more uncomfortable. Our living together came up during filling out the paperwork - we have a really cool priest (older, Irish) and when we stated the same address and nervously laughed, he just looked up and said, "It's not Saturday, so I'll spare you the sermon," and carried on... we start our classes in March so we'll see what happens then.. 

     

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