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    deannaclaws    April 1, 2015  

    I   am in no way an  expert on diamonds but tonight SO let me try on my ering to make sure it fit. Before i put it on i noticed a rather odd looking spot that i swear wasnt there when we looked at it in zales. Maybe it was and i overlooked it but i really dont see how i could have. I have one pic of the first time i tried it on but its too hard to tell since its not that great of a pic, I'm hoping my mom will have kept what i sent her so i can get a better reference. Please tell me what is wrong with this stone! I need help bees! 

     
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    IowaDDS13    July 6, 2013   Iowa

    I'm not sure I see what you see, but I can say I doubt it's fractured. Diamonds are incredibly strong, it would take a heck of a lot of force to splice it. It's likely a "feathering", which is a type of inclusion.

    May I ask, what's the clairity on the stone?

     
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    sheepandbear    May 16, 2013   Dallas, Tx

    For me, its almost impossible to tell from the photo. I would guess that its just an inclusion (or what I like to call a birth mark.) If you arent happy with it, I think Zales would switch it out for you?

     
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    deannaclaws    April 1, 2015  

    It was pretty obvious until iposted it on here, I'll try to get a better picture than those although i will have to wait for him to formally propose lol.. also i think the clarity is i1, which i know is on the lower end, but i think if i can still see it when i hold my arm out from my face then something is up, no? I just was unsure what to expect. its really got me freaked out, its like an awkward whitish spot on the center stone.

     
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    hyperJulie    June 1, 2013   New York

    I would guess that is probably a feather/inclusion.

    Any I clarity stone means that it is not eye-clean. So it's not surprising that you can see a flaw without a loupe, because that's what it means. However, I'm not sure how they are graded within the I category so I can't help you there. Does it come with any sort of certification?

     
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    joya_aspera    December 2016  

    I can't really see from the photos but will agree with the PPs that it is probably an inclusion that you're seeing. I does mean visibly included.

    Did you get any paperwork about the specs of the diamond? You can make sure it matches up with its paperwork by taking it to a different jeweler for an assessment.

     
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    Pokemon    November 9, 2013   Australia

    if it help my ring is clarity rated I1 as well

     
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    Mrsns07    May 26, 2007   Canada

    I agree with the previous posters, it is probably just an inclusion. I1 diamonds do have inclusions that are visible you the naked eye. I think they are more obvious once you know where they are. I have a ring made with I1 clarity diamonds and the inclusions are very obvious to me, I highly doubt anyone else would really notice though.

     

    Here is a pic of my anniversary ring for reference, I don't know why it is sideways..

     

     
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    AP1976    February 9, 2008  

    Yes, as PP said, I1 means the inclusions are easily visible to the naked eye.  It's likely you didn't notice it in the store because of store lighting, and I doubt the salespeople at a chain store would have told you about it unless you asked.  I'm sure if you're uhappy you can swap it out for a better clarity grade, just pay attention to the paperwork they give you!  Congrats on your impending engagement!

     
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    deannaclaws    April 1, 2015  

    Thank you all for your input. Whatever it is it is most obvious in the first picture in the upper right hand corner of the center stone, a whitish coloring and the stone doesn't shine there. I'm trying to figure out if it's something i can live with or not. I still swear the stone did not have the spot on it when i first saw it in the store. Not sure what to do or what my options would be,or if I'd be happy just leaving it be. I am just self concious about it now and it does bother me. After we are actually engaged I'll have to look at it in different lighting, maybe I'll even get over it. We'll see i suppose!

     
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    womanofsubstance    February 25, 2012  

    I have seen good i1's and i1's that I wouldn't go near. Having said that, I cannot tell what I am looking at in your stone.

    A lifetime ago, I owned a ring with a horrible inclusion that I could see once the sheen of the jewellry store lights were no longer a factor. I also got it dirty by washing my hands and just ordinary living. I was so upset that it could be seen, I returned it and after much discussion, humming and trying to turn me around - they sold me another stone (for more money of course). 

    Although I no longer have that ring, I learned to understand what I would and wouldn't tolerate. Good luck and do let us know ok?

     
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    heathuhhhhwebbbb    May 27, 2013   TX

    Its probably an inclusion.  As said by a few of the PP, I1 has inclusions visible to the naked eye.  When I was looking at diamonds around that clarity, I asked the jeweler if he would mind taking it outside so I could look at it in the sun.  Since I buy from them a lot, they were more than happy to.  Once outside I could see more visibly the inclusions.  I ended up getting a SI1 diamond at first, but then recently I upgraded to a VS1.

    I'm sure they will switch it out for you.  See if they have any they can order that has less obvious inclusions.

     
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    vorpalette    August 23, 2013   Michigan

    I agree that it's probably just an inclusion, especially since most stones carried by mall jewelry stores are I1s. I have an I1 that's eye clean and super sparkly, though.

     
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    ponyrider    October 5, 2013   worcester, MA

    Mine is also an I-1 and looks eye clean...has no obviious white or dark spots. I's vary quite a bit. I have seen I1's that look worse than I2'a ND VISA VERSA. make sure the stone is clean, as in take a q-tip qith a dip of alcohol and clean the stone before panicking. Also remember, most people are not going to get that close to your ring. I compare my I1 solitaire to my signity cz and seriously cannot tell the difference - and I really try. To me, the only difference between my diamond and my cz is that the diamond looks a bit "denser" in the center of the stone...not sure that makes sense but it is the only difference I can see even up really close. so, there are I1 stones that are very nice looking.

     
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    JessMorgan777    January 1, 2011  

    I bought my ring from zales and they can switch it out for you if it bothers you that much. I have had an I2 and it looked like it was cracked but in the store, under store lights, I did not notice it at all until I got it home. I ended up upgrading to a VS2 and went down in diamond size because it really botherd me to much to enjoy staring at my ring.

     
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    distracts    April 20, 2013   Dallas, TX

    If the clarity is I1 and it came from Zales, then it very likely IS a huge feather... which btw to those above DOES mean crack. It's just fancy diamond speak for it. An I1 graded by Zales or whoever they use to grade would likely be visible from pretty far away, yeah. Did you try the ring on in the store the day you took it home, or only when you first picked it out? Because unless you tried on the exact ring you took home, the one you tried on likely had a different diamond entirely. Inclusions come in all different types and shapes and sizes and there are I1s that are more clean and I1s that are less clean, which is why it's important that if inclusions are possibly visible, you select the diamond yourself so you can choose which ones are most acceptable to you.

     
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    deannaclaws    April 1, 2015  

    @distracts:  Thank you for your honesty! Zales uses GIA to grade their diamonds I have learned. I tried the ring on in the store. SO had it sent out to be sized and then last night i got to look at it since it's back and that's when it jumped out at me.I couldn't find a ring i liked better after searching every website out there, and I have been rather disappointed that it's come back looking like this. Maybe the lighting in Zales made me not to notice it but I looked at it 3 different times on 3 different days and never noticed it then.

     

    I'm also really unsure about how I should handle the situation, I have read the horror stories about Zales online, so far our experience has been pleasant. However I fear that when we come in to voice the concerns we have it won't be helpful at all. Hopefully i am wrong.

     
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    distracts    April 20, 2013   Dallas, TX

    I would go in to complain about it! Just be nice and keep your cool and explain you didn't see it in the store and would not have picked this particular diamond if you had. There are MANY I1s out there that have inclusions I'd consider acceptable, and I'm really picky. (The best is to find one in a corner that can be covered by a prong.) Your setting is beautiful and I'm sure you'll be able to find the perfect diamond to go in it. And someone upthread said Zales exchanged their diamond, so you can say you had a friend who did that and were wondering if you could too. Or something.

     

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