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re: http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/schoolgirl-14-dies-after-cervarix-cervical-cancer-vaccine-injection/story-e6freuy9-1225780744827
The 14-year-old schoolgirl who died in hospital after receiving the Cervarix injection is the first reported death from the vaccine
me personally - no i havent had the vaccine and have no intention of having it. im not a fan of chemicals in general - especially pharmaceticuals that havent had decades & decades of research. im truely concerned about whats going to happen in 10-15yrs time when some women start having/try to have children and then we find out there has been a side affects to the vaccine... but my opinon is somewhat backwards, heck i havent even had antibiotics for almost 20yrs and ive never been on the pill so yep, im a bit backwards when it comes to medical intervention
so what about you? have you taken the vaccine or would you let your daughter have it?
Heck no. I'm with eloping on the medical intervention thing...I don't even like taking Motrin. Definitely no BC pills or hormone-y stufff. Doctor's visits and needles cause instant tears and send me into panic attacks. I wouldn't subject myself to something I don't even need in the first place, and could be dangerous in the second.
From the article: "We are preventing hundreds of deaths by using these vaccines, the results may not show up for 30 years, but it is working."
Famous last words? We'll see.
I am with you both. I was appalled to find out that there is actually a public school in Michigan (I can't remember exactly where otherwise I'd say the city) that is REQUIRING girls to have the vaccine in order to come to school. WOW. What ever happened to parental choice? Ok, so I don't necessarily think that things like MMR, Tetnus, etc should be optional for kids, but a vaccine 'preventing' a disease related to an STD? That's DEFINITELY something that parents and children should discuss and should be decided by the family and NOT by a school district or by the government. I have not and will not be getting this vaccine (nor would my daughter if I had children) - there has not been enough research done on it and I hadn't even heard about this death related to it yet - that's scary. I will admit that I do take BC pills but if I could find another method that was convienient and non-hormone related, I would do it in a heartbeat. There are too many things on the pharmacutical market (including vaccines) that have not been extensively tested but are pushed through the process before we really know what their side effects and drawbacks are (for example, Celebrex). I think we all need to take charge of our lives in a medical respect and learn as much as we can about what we are putting into our bodies, the potential side effects, etc.
Having had cervical cancer, yes, I would take it. Having been through the hell I've gone through, I'd risk those odds.
ONE person has died from the vaccine. Do you know how many die in a DAY from cervical cancer?
I got it as soon as it came out, and will one-day insist on my daughters getting it at an early age too. Prevention is key. There are new outbreaks of diseases (like the Mumps outbreak last year) people haven't had in years because so many parents have decided not to vaccinate their kids. Vaccines have radically altered our lives for the better.
Yes I have had the vaccine! And I HIGHLY recommend it!! The benefits of this vaccine outway any risk!
I am with Laylabelle. Its a horrible experiance and I would do anything to make sure other women do not have to go through the emotional and physical rollercoaster.
i have no issue with certain vaccines (ie rebulla, measles sp ect) but i was surprised to find out there is a vaccine for chicken pox - i thought it was a childhood rite to get chickenpox as a kid
i guess my main concern is not enough research and data on this vaccine - i remember being told about Thalidomide when i was younger and do not want to see a repeat of this
Laylabelle you say "ONE" person has died but to that childs parents she may have been their entire world... and im glad you have recovered from c/cancer
I am still on the fence and I have had the actual written prescription in my possession for 3 years so far but haven't gotten it yet and I am not sure if I will!
I agree that EVERYONE should get their childhood vaccines but newer vaccines scare me - like the H1N1 that will be coming out in November also!
No, I haven't and am not planning on it for various reasons. I hate it when doctors or nurses try to push it on you. I was at a Planned Parenthood about a year ago, and the nurse-practitioner tried to convince me to get the vaccine because "most relationships end in divorce," and I might have other sexual partners in my future.
And I'm sure that for all of the families that lose a woman a day due to cancer, she was their world too. It's hard to take a step back when you've been affected. My life is permanently altered. Had this been around before (and, I guess, having known then what i know now) I would have done anything to prevent it. But as they say, hindsight is 20/20. Thank you, I appreciate that. I still have three years of remission before my five years is up. I'm checked every three months. It sends me into a tailspin. If I can prevent it for anyone, I would.
I would get it... the vaccine is for prevention and the benefits definitely outweigh the risks. Vaccines have practically eradicated such deadly diseases as smallpox, polio, and measles. Cervical cancer kills thousands of women each year... and with Gardasil, we are on the way of eradicating this disease as well. I will definitely have my future daughter (and son!) take the shots.
sendings positive thoughts Laylabelle for the next 3yrs and beyond....
no one is right or wrong in this discussion - just like one size does not fit all :), just very interesting to see where others sit on the subject. i actually had a arguement with my sisterinlaw about my only niece but at the end of the day she is her mother and made the decision to let her have the vaccine, today im grateful she didnt have any side effects and i'll keep that hope for her future
I haven't gotten it but would not be against it and would absolutely want my future daughter to have it. Do you know how many people will be infected with HPV in their lifetime? I had it. I bet a good number of women here also have/had it.
Yes, I had it. Had I not had irregular paps with precancerous cells at the age of 20, maybe I wouldn't have thought of it. Shortly after, my friend (who had a 5 and 1 year old daughter) died from an aggressive case of cervical cancer, which quickly and devastatingly made it to her spinal cord and throughout the rest of her body. Many people can't fathom what its like to go through something like that, much less lose your own life, to something can be initially prevented through a vaccination.
I don't like medications either, and don't take them unless needed. I wouldn't try to push the vaccine onto someone else, but I will ask you to imagine losing your own friend, mother or sister to something we now have the technology to potentially prevent. Think about it.
I haven't gotten the vaccine, and I'm not planning on it. BUT I absolutely WOULD get the vaccine if I was still single and out in the dating world. HPV is very prevalent, and if the vaccine can help prevent cervical cancer, I am all for it. The vaccine has gone through rigorous testing to even be allowed on the market. Since I'm about to be married, and plan on being monogomous for the rest of my life, the vaccine will not benefit me at this point in my life.
My friend has cervical cancer, and I was surprised to learn that it is an STD:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cervical_cancer#Human_papillomavirus_infection
Vaccines are a controversial topic, so I won't say any more. But based on what I've read in my own research, the vaccine has been safe and the benefits far outweigh the risks.
Definitely curious to hear the results of the autopsy (in the article above).
I'm a huge fan of the vaccine. There are always going to be adverse events from every medicine, herbal, treatment and vaccine. If you consider the number of people treated, the number of cancer deaths prevented and the number of dollars saved with the vaccine, it makes perfect sense.
It's always hard to take yourself out of the personal level to a population level, but that's exactly what we do in public health.
There is also a mounting body of evidence that the vaccine might be very useful in boys (since men spread HPV to women).
I got the Guardasil vaccine 2.5 years ago, even though I was in the monogamous relationship I'm in now. Other than it being a painful shot, I didn't think much about it. The idea of potentially preventing a type of cancer (through those strains of HPV) to me was greater than the potential risk or side effects.
I have had two of the series of three shots of Gardisil. I think it is a great thing for any woman under 30 to get. HPV (which is the eventual cause of cervical cancer) is so prevalent and common, that it makes getting the vaccine a smart move. It is also required for school girls in Texas to get the vaccine. I am 22 now and started receiving the vaccine last year. My only issue with it is, because I am not a child and getting it through a pediatrician, my health insurance will not cover the vaccine. The shots cost $160 a pop through Planned Parenthood. I also had a hard time locating a facility to receive the vaccine. My gynecologist doesn't give it becuase he says it is too expensive to offer to so few patients. Planned parenthood is the only place I could find. Anywho, I think the vaccine in a great idea.
I don't know if this is an incorrect attitude (Mrs. DG, you can help out if you want), but I feel like it would be pointless now, since I am with my last sexual partner I will ever have, and if he has HPV, he would have already given it to me. Maybe that's a weird outlook, but I just feel like, since it can't undo what's been done, and I'm not going to be putting myself at risk in the future because I'm getting married, its a little too late. Anyone else feel this way? Does it have benefits even if you are monogamous?
You can have it administered at certain pharmacies who do vaccines in Texas
My gynecologist advised me that I didn't "need" the vaccine since I was married and because of that, not really at risk for HPV/cervical cancer. Anyone else hear that?
I suppose the only argument against that theory (ie married/one partner) is the what if you married a a-hole (without knowing it of course) that fools around??? i recall a case of a man passing on HIV to his wife & child, he knew he had the virus but didnt say anything
ugghhhh - dangerous world
@Eloping -- Bingo. That is exactly what happened to me with HPV. My doctor tells me that that it is most likely a benign strain that is clearing up but I remember how terrified I was when I got that first phone call about an abnormal pap and waiting for the HIV test results (negative, thank god!!). Yes, my ex was not only a jerk, but a complete idiot. Who is this day and age would have unprotected sex with a colleague?? Who knows who else she was having sex with??
I'm in the same boat as a few others; my gyno told me that it was up to me whether or not I wanted to get the vaccine, but if I were getting married and was in a monogamous relationship, I shouldn't be worried. I can understand the worry that if you marry a jerk and he sleeps around, you could contract something, but in my case, I have no doubts about my fiance whatsoever. So, I have, for now...opted out of getting the vaccine. I try to avoid as much as possible (never had a flu shot...I still don't see the point in that unless you are elderly...but that is just my opinion, and it is off topic)!
Several issues
1. We do not know cause of death with the young girl that died. It could be a tragic coincidence that she had the HPV vaccine on the same day. We will have to wait until full post mortem results are out.
2. Cervical cancer is not an STD. It is true that the majority of cervical cancers are caused by exposure to the HPV virus, but not all cancers are. It is possible to have cervical cancer without being sexually active, although it is very rare.
As for me, I would have it if I was younger. My younger cousin is part of the first vaccine cohort. She has had her first two jabs. I think that its amazing that in the future she might not have to go for cervical smear screen.
I got it as soon as it came out a few years ago. No problems for me.
Hi Ladies,
I work for the company that invented and makes this vaccine, and can safely say that the benefits do outweigh any risks. By not taking it, you risk getting a very detrimental cancer, so why not? I always end up in this discussion with others when they hear about where I work and what I work on.
I had precancer cells at 21, so as soon as Gardasil came out, I got it along with my sister. All types of cancer runs in my family, so its a risk I'm not willing to take, especially since I already had "cancer" at a young age. Mine was not called by HPV, but this makes my risk of recurence even slimmer. I think its great that there are vaccines like this, although I would never stop getting my annual pap smear, since the vaccine only guards against HPV caused cancers and not all cancers.
I got it too, and I wish that I had gotten it earlier. I remember hearing about it when it first came out, and being the total hypochondriac that I am, I asked my gyno for it at my next visit. I was told that I couldn't get it because I was too old (don't recall exact ages but I think it was initially only approved for girls 11-18 or something, I was like 21). At my next yearly exam I had an abnormal pap. Thankfully after 2 abnormal paps I have had 2 normal ones (although I still have to go in frequently for screening), but you had better believe I jumped on it when my (new)gyno suggested I get the vaccine. She said just because I likely have a strain of hpv, that does NOT mean I have one of the strains that cause cancer so the vaccine is still a good idea. True I was with my boyfriend at that point (although we weren't engaged and still aren't)... but to me it just seemed like a good idea to get the vaccine regardless. Call me untrusting or whatever (I'd call me a realist), but even though I believe I will be with him forever I know that there is a chance he could cheat on me some day or a chance we could break up. I trust him with my heart but I see no reason to trust him with my life when taking my safety into my own hands is so easy to do.
Also for the record (and those considering having daughters vaccinated).... I did NOT have a lot of sexual partners when I had my first abnormal pap. My current guy is only #2 and I'm now aware that I got this from guy #1 (who couldn't have gotten it unless he cheated on me bc we were together from the time we were 17..... so maybe there comes my realist attitude haha).
I got it; my insurance wellness plan actaully requires the vaccine for all female participants under the age of 25. If you don't get the vaccine, your deductibles go up. Plus, my little sister got HPV 2 years ago. Since then she's had 3 exams with results of pre-cancerous cells. Her last exam was normal, thankfully, but I think it's a very real reality that she could develop cancer because of HPV. I want to prevent that possibility for myself, so I am very for the vaccine.
I also don't agree with the statement that you're not at risk for HPV because you're in a monogamous relationship with a committed partner. Sure, your risk of exposure goes down, but adultery isn't the only way a partner in a committed relationship could contract a disease. What about rape? Not to mention the fact that marriages are dissolved all the time involuntarily (like by death) and there's always the possiblity that a new partner would carry the disease. It just seems like too high of a risk for me.
As an aside to the the being in a monogamous relationship argument (and I know not all are like this, thank goodness!) but my last boyfriend of five years cheated on me a few times. We suspect that's where I got HPV.
I think JoeyEmma hit the nail on the head. If you actually read the article, they state explicitly that the girl's cause of death is unknown.
Just because she happened to get vaccinated that day, doesn't mean the vaccine caused her death. Correlation is now causation.
I would have gotten the vaccine, however my insurance wouldn't cover it because I was over their age limit for it by the time it came out. My husband and I are each other's first and only sexual partner, so the chances of either of us having HPV is slim. However, I continue to get my yearly pap smear.
I am currently pregnant with a little girl- she'll get it when she's old enough.
There are a lot of misconceptions about vaccines/vaccinations and they drive me crazy. As a molecular biologist (and the daughter of a public health nurse) it infuriates me that people choose not get certain vaccines.
Obviously if you forgo the HPV vaccine, you can still have your routine pap smears and be healthy. Worst case scenario, only you will become sick.
However, with flu vaccines, MMR, and lots of the childhood vaccines- if you opt not to get them and become ill you are putting others at serious risk. There are people who cannot be vaccinated (those on chemotherapy, those who are immune suppressed due to illness or organ transplantation, etc) and if we all did our part to stay healthy and prevent the spread of disease, we would all be safer.
I was always unsure if this is something I wanted to get, but this discussion has really provided me with such great information, so thanks everyone!
And rosychicklet congrats on your little girl!
If it was available when I was young/not married, I would have seriously considered it. I have a good friend who got it and did a lot of research before hand.
I will wait to make the decision when/if I have a daughter that is old enough to get it.
I got the vaccine. Honestly one less cancer concern to worry about is reason enough for me.
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