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I wonder if anyone else wishes there were a Childfree section of the boards. As it stands, in Nesting there is an entire chunk of sections related to pregnancy: Babies, TTC, Pregnancy, and Parenting. The alternative to all of the child-related posts have more to do with the home- Home, Newlyweds, Pets, Cooking. I don't feel like there is a place to talk about the things I want to talk about.
The sorts of topics that would be neatly organized into a Childfree section would include a lot of posts that have come up lately: Planning weddings without children invited, wording childfree wedding invites, family drama resulting from your decisions about children, disagreements with SOs about Yes Babies or No Babies, birth control, PERMANENT birth control, abortion, heath issues relating to Childfree, women's rights, breaking the societal norm and the fallout therein, etc.
As it stands, many bees post to the Family and Secular boards and get a lot of flack for being non-traditional. A Childfree board would be a space to talk about things without offending anyone who has different beliefs about family.
I'm only including a Yes option on the poll because I'm only trying to speak for those it would be useful for.
For those who haven't come into contact with the term before, Childfree describes people who do not want children, now, later, or ever. They do not want to adopt either. Just because someone is Childfree does not mean that they hate children. We are not childless, we're ChildFREE.
Yes!!! I already created an Idea for this, please go and vote! http://ideas.weddingbee.com/topic/can-we-have-a-dinks-section
@MrsSl82be: Haha I was about to say it should be named "DINK"
Yes, please comment your vote on the topic... And rate it as well. Many commenters haven't rated the topic on the suggestion board even though they commented favourably.
@Aure:yes, good point. Comment if you wish, but PLEASE VOTE!!
@Aure: yes, good point. Comment if you wish, but PLEASE VOTE!!
@LGenz: great minds :)
Is DINK double income no kids? I wouldn't necessarily post on a child free board, but I can see why one would make sense!
I don't really think it is necessary. All of the things you listed as potential topics or posts all fit very neatly in other sections of the boards.
@Mrs.KMM: The arguement can be made the other way around as well.
Babies - Family
TTC - Wellness
Pregnancy - Wellness
Parenting- Family
@LGenz: But what about familes that are single income with no kids?
Lol I'm over thinking this, huh?
@MissBoPeep: the acronym SINK isn't too attractive. I'd be willing to take them into the fold.
@Mrs.KMM: I see your point, but there are a lot of pregnancy topics that also fit into other areas. Also, I believe I can see the same reason why we would want different religion boards instead of The Religion Board. I want a community of likeminded individuals who wouldn't immediately judge me for wanting to be sterilized at age 23 or needing advice about how to avoid children or answer to other women Bingoing me on the boards, "You'll change your mind," etc. There is a growing community of women who are TTC and talking about babies, babies, babies. This would be for the growing community of people whose aims are in another direction.
DINKs is such an ugly word =( I like Childfree because it's more empowering. It's also more permanent. I wouldn't care either way, so long as a board for the "No Babies" crew existed, as long as the Children Someday posse didn't get offended by the Children Never crew.
I call myself CBC (childless - or childfree - by choice). I love kids, but knew being childless was the right choice for me.
Specifically for Child FREE I agree that there probably be a section under Nesting for that. I don't think there needs to be a whole 'nother section just for it though.
I think a Childfree board would be a good idea. I would probably support it being called childfree instead of DINK both because I think acronyms can be confusing for those who don't know them and as MissBoPeep pointed out, just because a couple doesn't have kids doesn't mean they both work.
But I think it would be nice to have something specific in Nesting for people who don't have children yet or who don't intend to have children ever.
But I don't think women's rights or abortion are necessarily issues only relevant to those without children either.
My problem is that whole nesting section is overrun with topics relating to having children. Yes I understand there are a few other topics under "nesting," but they don't have high activity.
I think the 'nesting' and the 'parenthood' topics should be under separate tabs and I think 'nesting' should be broadened to more topics.
I just realized I may be totally off topic... Yes I think there should be a "child free" section somewhere.
@MrsBroccoli: I can't speak for everyone, and I don't know anyone's past experience on threads....however, even as a pregnant participant on the babies boards, I would not be judgemental of someone's choice to live childfree. I have family and friends who do not have kids, and my husband and I didn't have kids for a number of years after marriage, so I might even have helpful advice on some of the topics you mentioned. Please know that even people who choose to have a family can still be respectful of your choices, concerns, and ideas.
@regberadaisy: I agree that a section under nesting would be most appropriate.
@cannon: "But I don't think women's rights or abortion are necessarily issues only relevant to those without children either." I 100% agree.
I actually wish that "NWR" and "nesting" was completely severed from weddingbee. a separate, non wedding forum run by the same creators would be wonderful!
I adore this forum and I keep coming back because I really love the way it's set up. but I'm already married so I mostly visit NWR and rings (because I love rings).
I don't care about weddings anymore. it's kind of embarrassing for me to keep coming back to a wedding board when I'm not planning one anymore. when people look over my shoulder and say "why are you still on WB?", I'm like "shut up, that's why!"
but whenever I go and try to find a different forum to join, I hate it! it's not nearly as nice as wedding bee :)
@delirium.megans: No, I agree 100%. When I saw nesting, I thought it was going to be about buying a home, landlords, cooking, home improvements, decorating, etc etc.
I should clarify that I am interested in a Childfree board as part of a section of Nesting. I didn't mean to say that Childfree needed to be some major section with loads of boards under it.
@MerryC: that's not been my experience on this board. Every time someone makes a post about not wanting children, there are a handful of people who come in there and tell us how we are going to change our minds, or just talk down to us. We CHOOSE to be this way, yet everyone and their mother wants to tell us how we are going to change our minds, or my favorite - we'll be all alone when we are old!! Cuz apparently some people think that having kids automatically equals a caregiver in old age
I also don't care what the name of the board is, once I put the idea in there I couldn't change the name of it. It could be called Childfree, DINKs, Married without kids,whatever!
I like this idea. Nothing against all the TTC and moms on here but this is called Weddingbee and I came here to talk about weddings. All the baby stuff sometimes takes over the main page.
@bells: but its ok to have all the different parenting boards, and we have to sift through 438925849583 baby posts every day? How is that fair?
I eventually want ONE kid but not any time soon so I would totally benefit from a childfree board.
@MrsSl82be: Very true. I remember a while back there were a bunch of posts about not wanting kids and those who were TTC got all pissy and started saying stuff about how those posts make them sad, it’s too hard to come onto the boards and see them, etc etc etc. Maybe if the childfree had a better place to post, we wouldn’t have to put them under a topic in the babies board even though as of right now, that’s the most logical place for them.
@bells: Why?
I'm "Childfree" and plan to remain "Childfree" but I don't think a separate board is necessary.
There are boards to post all the topics you describe and it sounds like you feel there is some discrimination towards posting something in those boards with a childfree-slant.
While I believe the childfree sentiment represents a lower percentage of the hive, I don't feel as if the childfree mentality is discriminated against (which is mainly why I don't think a separate section is necessary).
We come together in a community to support each other and I think that bees that have children or desiring children's opinion on something is just as helpful as those that are childfree. I wouldn't want to talk to just childfree people - yet welcome knowing that others are childfree. Another section would be over the top, IMO.
@scadadle15: It was totally overwhelming for me when I started and to be honest, I found it pretty annoying. I didn’t join this site to discuss the trials and tribulations of TTC or being a parent. I joined because I was planning my wedding. I don’t so much mind the baby boards now and I honestly do read a number of the threads because we will be at that stage eventually but it’s become obvious that the non-wedding boards are slowing taking over the site.
I can't imagine not wanting kids because I just always have. But I think if the childfree are feeling uncomfortable they should make a board for it. I noticed that there is a board for every religion under the sun here when you can easily post under a generic religious board so the whole argument that childfree can just post under family or something seems disingenuous.
@oracle: but it IS discriminated against, I have seen it every single post I have been a part of about being childfree. How is it fair that there are FOUR topics and a whole Parenting board, but those of us who don't want kids don't deserve even ONE topic of our own???
@singlemom: thank you for the support! It seems like some people just can't understand our side of things, so I'm glad that you can :)
@bells: no reason why?
I think there should be. I eventually want kids, but I agree, right now the nesting section is fairly overrun by TTC and pregnancy threads. I, like a PP, thought the nesting section would be more about just post-married life - not straight into baby talk, and that's what I'm interested in for the next several years, so I would probably hang out there quite a bit.
I think if we're going to go into the minutiae to separate TTC from Pregnancy, than childfree is different enough to be its own board.
It might also reduce tension/annoyance on those boards if TTC-ers don't have to see threads about 'omg I never want kids ever' and childfree don't have to constantly see 'omg, look at this pic of my ewcm!'
@janie-janie: Even though I just got married, I also feel kind of "over" wedding stuff. I wouldn't mind if the websites weren't totally severed, but if the boards each had a different front page. I know there are separate tabs, but nesting does seem to get really tangled up with TTC. I also feel kind of silly coming to a wedding forum when I'm already married, but I just like the forum community!
@hisgoosiegirl: I feel the same way about the nesting boards! I wasn't really into The Knot, but I do like the way they have The Nest and The Bump as separate boards.
I don't necessarily personally need a child-free board (we plan on TTC in a few years) but it would be nice to have a distinction between Nesting and TTC.
I currently do not have children, although I hope to some day in the future. I have several friends, a brother, and a cousin that choose not to have ever children, so I am familiar with their perspective that the viewpoint is frequently dismissed or belittled. That said, I don't think a separate board necessary. As another poster noted, most of those topics appropriately fit under other categories. If you feel that people are dismissing your perspectives (a very valid concern), then I think the appropriate move is to get that (individual) behavior to stop, involving the mods if need be.
@MaraBeth: exactly! The nest......is more like a wasp's nest.....making it difficult to get into. But I would love it if ours were more like that in the way of just boring married life stuff!
I think if we need separate boards for Pagan and Wiccan - which are probably a darn small % of the Bees, than Childfree is a very legitimate one.
@MrsSl82be: how did you feel discriminated against? I ask because I've always viewed it as other people voicing their opinion in a manner that's the same as any other topic?
Just because someone disagrees with someone else, doesn't automatically mean it's discrimination.
I say all that because I've never felt discriminated against once I voice my opinions about being childfree. Other members can ask questions, or not understand my position/desire - but I've never seen any sort of unfair treatment.
@bells: Plenty of married people don't have/want kids, there is no reason for them not to be represented too.
Everyone should get a chance to share their opinions and discuss with others in similar situations on here...and I have noticed that "childfree" lifestyle posts get a lot of flack. So for that reason I think it would be great for those that want to be childfree to have their own space. I mean, I want kids someday, and when I am someday pregnant, I'll have several boards to choose from. What's the difference in creating just one board for those with no children?
@soyjoy222: THANK YOU!!!
Geez, some people act like we're trying to turn Weddingbee into Childfreebee
@UpstateCait: I find it annoying too.
sorry, not to sound crass, but I don't really like baby talk very much and I don't want to hear about TTC, mucus plugs, baby names. it's super hard to ignore because there is so much of it in the main boards page.
wasn't there supposed to be an entirely separate website for parents (that was related to weddingbee but not called weddingbee)? what happened to it?
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