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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    We're having an issue with inviting children to the reception.  My family is tiny and the youngest person is going to be 19 from my side.  Friend-wise, we have 3 couples invited who will have toddlers, who will all be understanding about not bringing their kids.  On my fiance's side, there are 5 kids under 18 - his half-sister who will be 8 and in the wedding party, his step-sister who will be 15, and his 3 cousins who will be 13, 12 and 11.

    The issue is that we really want his 15 year old step-sister there, but his 12 and 11 year old cousins are terrible.  They are extremely poorly behaved, and their parents do not keep them under control.  They constantly fight and run around.  We recently went to my fiance's grandparents' anniversary dinner at an EXTREMELY fancy restaurant.  They ran around, fought, and the 11 year old even kicked over a giant pedestal candle!  In addition, the 13 year old cousin is very well behaved but is from the same side of the family as the 12 and 11 year olds.  It would be difficult to have him invited but not the other two.

    When my fiance asked his mother how old 13-year-old cousin was to see if we could have some sort of age cut off, she said "You can't invite the rest of that family and not him!!"  Yikes.  I absolutely do not want these poorly behaved children at my wedding.  I love children, but I have never wanted to have them at my wedding.  Having them at our engagement party definitely put a damper on it.  However I really don't want to exclude my fiance's immediate family (step-sister), and I don't know how we'd get around inviting/not inviting the 13-year-old.  If we invite him, his other aunt will be mad her children were not invited.  If we don't invite him, this might also cause issues.

    His half-sister (flower girl) will probably be sent to her babysitter for the reception because she will be bored without other kids and I think FMIL would prefer it that way.

    Suggestions!?  I'm going crazy!  My fiance is being no help, I think he is really worried about his family's reactions if we don't invite them.  Sorry to be long-winded, I hope it all made sense.

     
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    OttawaBride2011    May 21, 2011   Ottawa, Ontario

    i think you could definitely get away with just inviting the step sister, but i don't think you could get away with picking and choosing cousins... it's tricky. you're bound to offend someone!!

    i'd just invite the step-sister and then you have the "immediate" family only excuse :)

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    Make the age cutoff at 13.  That works, right?  Or if the kid will be 14 by the time the wedding rolls around, make it that.  That way, you don't get the little brats knocking over things and you do get the stepsister and the "good" cousin.

    Luckily we're saying "no kids" and making the cutoff 16, which is the age of my youngest bridesmaid.  Problem solved!

     
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    moderndaisy    June 2010  

    You might have to just not invitie any of them, unfortuantely. Our age cut-off is 17 excluding the 7 children of immediate family members. But with the 7 children, we are only inviting them to the cermeony and arranging to have babysitters during the reception. It's kind of a compromise, I didn't even want them at the ceremony..

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    Also, if it's 13 or 14, you can say its a restriction imposed by your venue or something.

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    I agree about the "picking and choosing cousins".  I think it would be so much easier if there were lots of kids that needed to be excluded, but it's so weird when there are only 2 (I guess 5 if you include the 3 toddlers).

    FMIL suggested we invite them to just the ceremony.  Why would they want to come to that part?!  It will be the most 'boring' for them.

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    @hotchild - if only.  We're having it in his grandparents backyard; same grandparents of the cousins we don't want to invite.  And the real kicker; it's also the backyard of their business, where mother-of-bad-cousins works!

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    @Brianalaura: Oh, yeah, you're screwed ;o)

    I'd say you're stuck with saying "no kids" and only inviting FI's stepsister.

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    @hotchild - Ooo I am afraid of the fall-out!  But this is what I'm leaning towards.  Thanks for the advice!

    Thanks to the rest of you too!

     
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    hotchildinthecity    June 12, 2010   New York, NY

    @BrianaLaura: But you can just claim it as "immediate family only" unless you have some other lurking related toddlers you're not inviting ;o)

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    @hotchild - not unless someone makes one before the wedding!  :-D

     
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    mskalinin    Sept. 12, 2009   North East

    Honestly, I am pretty against not inviting family, even if they are kids. I know, I know ::dodges projectiles:: its a choice for everyone, and some people feel very strongly about not having kids at their wedding. Its just a personal choice I suppose.

    We had to invite this cousin of my husband's who is almost 6 and the WORST KID EVER. He is not well behaved at all, his parents don't even attempt to reign him in. He ran around like an idiot the entire time, unplugged the electricity at one point! Threw birdseed in my mother's face! Kept running into the shot during the formal pictures! But its something we all talk about now and its kind of funny in retrospect. Its not that bad to have some little tyrants, it will give people something to complain about that's not related to you and how you planned things! haha

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    @mskalanin - You're not making a very good case by telling me about the tyrant cousin!  :-)  I understand what you're saying about family, but I just don't feel the same way.

     
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    mskalinin    Sept. 12, 2009   North East

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that even with the WORST KID EVER there, it didn't really bother me that much. He's a little punk, everyone knows it, and its funny to watch videos and see various people grab him by the arm and basically tell him to get out of there. haha

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    At least you had people grabbing his arm!  These kids are poorly behaved and no one tries to control them.  Blech.

     
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    daydreamwanderer       DC

    can you hire a second sitter to watch these kids? 11 and 12 is NOT too old for a babysitter.

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    @daydreamwanderer - I could probably have them sent to the same sitter as the flowergirl.  Originally it was suggested to us by another family member that we get a babysitter at the actual house for the 3-4 kids, but these kids would for sure run outside and cause havoc once they got in a fight.  Still under consideration!  It might be easiest if we did that.

     
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    daydreamwanderer       DC

    just screen your sitters for 'damage control' and a firm hand :)

     
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    CorgiTales    February 1, 2011  

    @brianalaura- I feel like because it is at someone's home... you will never be able to keep them inside with a babysitter. In my opinion-- do not invite them. I have a similar situation going... tweeny-type cousins that are just so obnoxious. I think that you just need to not invite any of the cousins on that side. Sucks for the 13 year old because is not the reason he isn't invited... but honestly I doubt he cares anyways. I really don't get why parents want to bring the kids anyways, they should enjoy a night out alone! :)

     
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    MsMarch2010    March 13, 2010   Huntington Beach, CA

    You can say highschool age only; it connotes some sort of maturity.  A 15 year old is no longer really a child is it?  My cut off is highschool age.

     
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    guitargirl    October 2009   Ohio

    I would have the half-sister and step-sister, and none of the cousins- then it's no kids except immediate family. 

     
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    I think you should only include kids that are immediate family and not invite any of the other kids.  

     
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    Jelly_Bean25    11-21-2009   Orlando, FL

    We are having no kids, and it's all good on his side.  The cut-off age is 15.  I adore children.  I do, but a wedding is not the place for them.  I have a cousin who has 4 children that I was sure she would want to have in tow.  They are all great kids, but I'm not cutting out 4 other people to have kids there instead.

    Thankfully, most of our families were on our side, and they broke it to others that we "might" not be having children there.  So, when we had to address it, they arleady kind of knew.  I was ready for a rumble, but they were STOKED to get away from their kids for a brief amount of time and use our rules as an excuse.  

    Many parents will be kidless that night, and they couldn't be happier.  As a side note, this also works for spreading the word about people not being able to invite additional guests.   

     
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    KMSull    August 7, 2010   Lexington, KY (via Atlanta, GA)

    Make the age cutoff whatever age the 15 year old will be. Seriously. I do NOT want kids at my wedding, so we're having a blanket "no kids" policy... I don't even think we're having a flower girl or ring bearer. I have no patience for kids who scream and run around whose parents don't bother disciplining them, and I definintely don't want it at my wedding.

     
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    nybride09    9/19/09   New York, NY

    make it immediate family kids only and ask if they need assistance finding a babysitter when they rsvp to make it clear kids are not welcome.

     
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    winter443    5/15/10   Atlanta

    The only children at my wedding/recep will be fi's niece, and 3 nephews.  Other than that, no kids.  I'm making sure everyone knows it's an adult reception and if they don't like it, they don't have to come...

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    Sorry guys, I didn't make it clear that the 13 year old is the only one in his immediate family that wouldn't be invited.  He also has a sister that will be 18 and a brother that will be 20.  That is why FMIL said we couldn't invite their family minus him.  Hence the issue!  If he was the only kid in that family I would just say no kids outside immediate family and be done with it.

     
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    ms.pascua    June 25, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    Sorry, but I think we have different definitions of "immediate family."  For me, immediate = my parents & sibs, grandparents & parents's sibs (no kids) + his parents & sibs, grandparents & parents' sibs (no kids).  That means NO cousins & solves your problem.  However, if you CAN'T do that, you could check out some of the Knot's suggestions on how to keep kids occupied or take others' suggestions about a baby sitter.  Good luck, whichever you choose.

    (for the record, I, too, LOVE kids...we actually made our wedding very kid friendly - at Disneyland Hotel + tix to Disneyland as favors - so that all our IMMEDIATE family members, friends, & their kids would feel welcome)

     
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    ms.pascua    June 25, 2010   Los Angeles, CA

    sorry...I think I needed to clarify that "no kids" meant "no cousins".  Harsh, I know, but it's a firm line on the whole kid thing.

     
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    Brianalaura    August 14, 2010   Ontario, Canada

    No cousins is definitely not an option.  My ENTIRE family is 13 people including dates, there is no way I couldn't invite my only two cousins.  This is too impossible!  I'd be happy to cut out his cousins, we're not really close with them, but I think a lot of people would be angry and my fiance wants them there.

    Right now I'm leaning towards sending the three youngest to the babysitter's and letting the 13 year old choose where he wants to go between the babysitter and the wedding.  It could cause some problems, but we might be able to smooth it over!

     
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    Johnsbride09    7/3/2009   Northern Virginia

    You could get away with just inviting the siblings... it would take an INCREDIBLY ballsy person to say their kid should be the only non-sibling invited, or that a cousin ranks at the same level as a sibling.  However, I think the mom would be within her rights to be upset if you invited one of her kids and not the others.

     

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