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It depends on which flowers you use i think. flowers similar to carnations i think are bad. but i am using calla lillies and i got the a-ok from good old grandma. they will be lined on the aisle of the ceremony and all my girls will have calla bouquets. i also asked her if i could have the white envelopes for my invites and she said ok to that as well, AFTER asking if i could get red instead hehe.
As much as my family is very westernized (ie born and raised in NY), my mom said no white flowers as well. I believe this a tradition embedded pretty deeply in the chinese culture.
In addition, my FMIL was very against our use of Aqua Blue and Navy Blue in our color scheme, in particular the invitations. Apparently it brings a bad omen to the receiver of the invitation and she went so far as to call Navy Blue "Dead Person Blue" in cantonese. In the end, it was easier to change the color scheme then go to battle over a color. It made all the mothers happy.
I would suggest maybe changing the colors to soft peaches, pinks and you can mix creams in maybe. But after weeks of discussion, I wasn't able to find a way around the issue. '
Goodluck though! Let me know how it turns out.
wait, navy blue is also no good? my save the date envelopes are navy but i've never heard of navy blue being a bad other in cantonese culture (i'm also cantonese). does anyone else know?
im sorry! I didn't mean to worry you!
It's just what my FMIL said to us. I am not sure if it's true or she just said that to get us to change the color scheme
My parents are Taiwanese and they've never heard of the navy blue thing. In the end, whether its true or not, we had to change our colors.
If your mother hasn't said anything about the navy blue STD, I wouldn't bring it up. hahaha
My parents didn't care, but I knew if I had everything white my grandma might not like it very much, so I did a mix of colors. I think type of flower also makes a difference. Some are more "white" than others. Callas can be white or creamy white with a colored throat, while pure white carnations or roses can be very stark in contrast. Also, you can always add a bit of color with ribbon embellishments on the stems, etc. I ended up doing whites and creams with soft yellow/green (green hypernicum berries, etc.) mixed in, and I honestly think everything looked better because of the added color.
I'm Cantonese also. My grandmother always told us not to wear white or dark colors (black, dark blue) in our hair, saying that red was better, but my parents haven't said anything about navy blue being bad for a wedding
I'm also Cantonese and my mom's only requirement for the wedding was no white flowers. She's really not that traditional (she even wanted me to wear a white cheongsam), but I think she thought the white flowers would upset the older generations. I ended up going with bright pink flowers and they really looked wonderful in the pictures.
Hum... what about those white Cymbidium orchids that are mostly white but have a little red in them? Would your mother go for those?
Hi ladies, I guess I throw my hat in. :)
White and blue flowers worn in your hair would be bad. That's what they do at weddings, so I can see why white flowers in your hair would definately bad. In regards to using white flowers otherwise, I was told only PURE white flowers are "funeral flowers." If the whites have the tiniest but of color in them they should be okay.
Also, dark blue is a funeral color as well, but I think some people have started to care less about that - most people look good in blue! My idea of having blue invitations, however, was turned down.
Does IVORY count as white? I just bought a beautiful ivory hair flower and have a sinking feeling that it may not be okay.
Wow, I thought I was the only one with this problem. I'm born here so I thought my parents would be pretty Westernized. When my FI and I started planning our wedding, we asked our parents what they wanted. They told us that if we were in China, there would be tons of traditions, but since we were in the US, that as long as we had a tea ceremony, they didn't care about anything else. Um, well, they started pulling traditions out of their butts! We are now having a tea ceremony, red invitations with gold writing (we were originally going to do ivory and blue), and no white flowers in my hair.
thanks for everyone's input so far. i think i'm ok on the flowers thing, since we're doing an afternoon wedding, splashes of color is actually better anyway.
now i'm just really worried about the save the dates. its a postcard magnet of a city skyline in blue tones and the envelopes are navy blue. i just finished making 100 of these stinkin envelopes (b/c i needed 4x6 and places don't make them - but that's another story). so do you think my older guests would be like.. OMG i got a DARK blue envelope and freak out???
Yeah I'm chinese and been getting a lot. No blue anywhere in the wedding for the same reasons above, reminds them of death... so does giving clocks, anything in 4's including number of bridesmaids. Try Ivory, it's technically not white, you can see what she thinks.
yeah! I just bought an ivory flower with feathers for my hair. i wonder if that's ok??
Its a no-no in vietnamese culture as well. My mom even wondered if my dress should be in a different color than white.
Wow... I'm learing a lot from everyone here about your culture. It's really interesting!
About the flowers: Have you thought of "Bridal White" in roses and gerbers, etc? It's kind of a white, ivory & pink mixed together. More of a blush white look with the center being a light pink. You might go to a floral shop and ask to see one.
All,
I'm Cantonese myself (First Generation born) in the U.S. My mom is fine with me using White Orchids...as Orchids are luxuriant, long petalled flowers that are exotic and fragrant, and I was told that it is an excelled choice for bouquets as well as corsages for mothers. The Orchid is also a Chinese symbol of Love and Fertility, which is a perfect token for weddings.
If you don't want to do Orchids, there is the Peony whihc is a symbol of Spring and Renewed Life as peonies come in many color and varieties. They are also easy to obtain and are very beautiful additions to centerpieces, as well as the pews and chair decorations.
Another is the Lotus, which represents Four Virtues in the Buddhist religion, as well as being the cornerston of Asian Flower culture. Sutras say the closed inner petals and open ring of outer petals of the lotus blossom represents Scent, Purity, Softness and Lovliness. It's delicate and spiritual and you can use this flower floating in a glass bowl of water or as a shining addition to your bouquet.
Lastly, in doing tons of research and asking elders, relatives and such, there's the Narcissus. Another common name for this flower is Daffodil and Jonquil. It symbolizes the change and end of Hibernation and is perfect for Spring Weddings. If you mix it with spring flowers, you can create a springtime bouquet or planted in pots or simple vases for centerpieces.
My mom said that since I'm wearing a "westernized 'white' wedding dress", I can do the White Orchids, as my bouquet. I'm also changing into a Red Custom-Made Chinese Long gown (Cheongsam) and wanted to do the Qua (it looks like Chinese Pajamas), but well, to get a Custom-made Qua, would be an additional $400), and my elders said that it would be something I'd never wear again (not even on Halloween)...So my FMIL is making me a Vegas Gold ball gown, as my 3rd dress to change into.
I hope this has helped...??
Here's two points you can try to make:
1) What chinese person goes to funerals in white? (Everyone I know wears black even in movies, unless they were historical movies)
2) Western people even wear black to weddings now.
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I had originally envisioned using all white flowers at my ceremony (aisle, podium area, bridal bouquet, etc) but I was just informed by my mom that even though she's not superstitious, she doens't think I should do that since white is used at chinese funerals and signifies negative things. While she may not care, other guests may, blah blah blah. Has anyone also run into this problem with their family? Is there something I can counter her with that i'm not thinking of?
THANKS!