Post # 1
Did everyone see this about Cliven Bundy? I just saw it on the news and looked up an article about it. What a nutjob! Looks like he will lose a bit of his right-wing support. What a pity (sike). It really frightens me that there are still people that can honestly say and think these things.
Here’s an excerpt for those who don’t want to click on the link:
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
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Post # 2
I’m going to go read the article but I’m going to post this first. I think that socializing with neighbors/friends outside on porches/sidewalks is something that people of lower SES are much better at than those of highger SES. I feel like people in suburbs don’t sit on their porch and socialize with neighors nearly as much as those in lower income neighborhoods, which is real detriment. But it’s interesting how people of higher SES are so uncomfortable with hanging out and socializing with neighbors that they assume anyone sitting/standing around in a group must be up to no good. We moved to a lower SES neighborhood a couple years ago and I’ve reall enjoyed that I can stand out on the sidewalk and chat with my neghbors on any given evening.
Post # 3
I don’t even know who he is but as an AA I’m not surprised. I’m sure there are many more politicians that think like him. He was just stupid enough to say it out loud.
Post # 5
I agree, as appalling as this is, I can’t say I’m surprised. This mindset is much more common than most people realize, its just that the majority of folks who feel this way are smart (I’m using that term very loosely) enough to keep their mouths shut about it in public forums.
Post # 6
He lost me at “the Negro”. I think Opera’s right- we just need these people to die off.
Post # 7
JenGirl: it’s probably due to the fact as you move up, you become more protective of your own assets and less trusting of people. I’ve came from a low income neighbourhood and I remember those days hanging out with neighbours with our doors open. We don’t have much stuff so we don’t care if you come in and steal, because there is nothing to steal from.
People are also a lot more friendly as if we are like a family, watching each other’s back. But of course we worked hard to earn a living and with more money pouring in, you move up and starting to lock your doors and such.
Post # 8
Really? Lower SES people are more friendly? Sorry to T/J but that sounds more than a bit off.
Post # 9
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I am AA and i am not surprised at all. People think they way they do. I have never picked cotton, I did however pick up books and educate myself so i would never ever ever have to accept a government hand out….EVER.
Post # 10
HisIrishPrincess: well you can’t really generalize all low SES communities are not friendly. It depends on the location and the community in general.
Obviously you haven’t been in one before so it’s easy for you to look down on people with lower status than you from the outside.
Post # 11
I’ve never heard of Cliven Bundy. I am not surprised — you can always count on some idiot making this kind of “argument” (in quotes because it’s not really an argument, just incoherent rambling). It’s sad for him that he’s so dumb.
Post # 12
I am unfamiliar with this bufoon, but he is like too many others. He is not alone in his racist beliefs, just idiotic enough to voice them. I really don’t care about him or those like him. His ancestors did not teach him much of value. They also failed to teach him proper grammer. He is disgusting. He has clearly only dealt with ethnic minorities from a far distance, and instantly stereotyped them. I wish gravity would stop working on him and those like him, so they could all go up into space, never to be seen or heard from again.
Post # 13
Barely_Blush: Look down on them? Never lived in Lower SES? Way to talk about things you have no idea about. I guess you don’t judge anyone ever?
But bless your heart for taking a stab at my past. We had four locks and a police stick next to the door of our one bedroom apartment in the Bronx, to keep the Super’s junkie kids from stealing our things (like our oh so expensive table fan) and trying to sell them back to us. Four kids and my parents. Feel free to appoligize for your error intimating that I’m classest? SMDH
Post # 14
HisIrishPrincess: Because I took offense of you questioning lower SES whether they are more friendly or not. Just because people hear so much violence in south side chicago doesn’t mean there are no communities within the area that are friendly. You’re basically implying people, like me living in these communties, are not as friendly as people who are in better communities. Just because my mother takes government assistance doesn’t make her less friendlier than other rich people on the north side.
Post # 15
HisIrishPrincess: Actually it is true. A poor villager in rural China is more likely to invite a stranger in for food than a middle class American. In a social construct friendly is not measured in terms of how friendly you are with those you already know but how friendly participants are to starngers.
I work with low SES communities and most will go out of their way to help each other, not something I have seen in my own neighbourhood where it is hard to even get a hello out of indirect neighbours.