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I think with certain things it's just making it worse. Like the one about the other board, we were just fueling the fire for them and giving them more things to complain about with us.
they close them when they're really against what WB stands for - no snark, blatant vendor posts, etc. I am glad that one was closed, personally. But i get it, free speech and all that. But if that stuff continued, it'd be like the knot on here which was just terrible.
I am all for closing threads in some instances.
For example, with the thread about that other message board earlier: it was getting to a point where everyone was just basically repeating what others had said and no new information or viewpoints were being contributed. Everyone was just going around in circles, and it got to a point where there was really nothing more than anyone could say.
It's not like the threads are deleted - those who didn't see them before or get a chance to comment are still able to view them as much as they want - they just can't add any new comments. I feel like it's a good policy to have.
Sometimes everything has been said that could be said, and sometimes the situation is getting out of hand. Like in that recently closed thread? It was just a pile of crap that was waiting to turn into a bigger pile of crap, and no one else needed to take a dump in it. (Excuse the colorful metaphor, haha)
I'm 100% certain that the admin close threads based on necessity, not their personal feelings.
I agree w/ amanda.lynn, many times it gets so repetitive, it just goes in round about circles.
I see what you're saying re: not getting a chance to comment, but the only threads he admins close are the ones where people start to get all aggro and nasty. Like the one today - why continue to let some loser troll and mole argue back and forth on OUR site? It needed to be closed ASAP. I definitely don't think the admins ever close a thread when there isn't more than sufficient reason to.
I definitley think some threads should be closed. We've had a few lately that should make the closed list. When vendors come on and spam our boards, when things get out-of-hand with snarkiness, etc.
I was under the impression that threads are generally closed only when requested by community members. I don't think admins just close whatever threads they feel like; I think people usually have to request that a thread be closed and give a good reason that it should be closed before an admin will act.
I feel that closing threads helps people move on from a topic. We (as a weddingbee community) seem to get stuck on an issue and we all keep repeating the same things over and over again. If someone really wants to say something about that topic, they are more than welcome to start a new thread.
I totally get what you're saying about the argument going in circle, but if people would just stop posting, the topic would die.
Also, nobody has to click on the thread if they don't want to. So I guess I just don't get it.
@minutiae- when i said that they close it based on their feelings, I just meant that they don't have any criteria- just if they feel there is a need for the thread to be closed.
I also don't like it when threads are closed because it eliminates any possibility for resolution.
@MissAsB- closing the thread about the heated waiting discussion definitely made things worse. new threads were popping up on the same topic.
@Jacqi: Having been a forum admin before, I definitely believe that members should respect an admin's discretion. There's never going to be a magic formula that fits every situation, so it's the admin's job to judge when things are OK and when things are going too far. On WB, people do a great job of monitoring themselves anyway; the only time I've seen threads close is after members have requested it!
@Jacqi - I know that, personally, when something gets heated like that, I can't help but checking in on the thread and I usually end up posting on it if it's really pissing me off. That's why I appreciate when threads are closed because I don't personally have the will power to just stop looking at it. It's my inner drama queen I guess :)
I see how, on one hand, you can look at it as a freedom of speech issue, and rightly so. I just think that maintaining the general positive vibe of the WB community trumps the freedom of speech issue in select cases. And the PP is right who said that threads are closed at the request of members, not just blindly closed by admins.
Jacqi, IMHO the problem is that people don't stop commenting. It is easy to say that people should just stop but it just doesn't happen that way. Everyone wants to share their thoughts, which is great but it needs to stop at some point. I agree that it is annoying when you want to comment on a thread and it is closed but in my case someone else has always posted what I would have said.
@Jacqi - But that's just the problem: people won't stop posting. With stuff that's so controversial it will just continue until someone closes the thread. And yes, sometimes when the thread is closed a new one will pop up, but when it does it usually isn't a big thread and doesn't really get many replies. Just wanted to chime in to say that even though it's logical for people to just stop posting on threads like that, they probably won't.
I am totally for closing threads & I flag posts that I feel don't represent what this community is about. When things get crazy or hurtful, I flag it. :)
Weddingbee admin AND members have worked hard to make the hive a supportive place to be. I think WB actually has some of the best moderators out of all of the boards I've been apart of. They are on top of issues within minutes.
I think Mr. Bee left his thread-closing reasoning-list in that snarky thread about the waiting bees. He left it up to a vote, but man, it was ugly.... can anyone find his reasons?
Here is what he said:
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We've gotten many requests to close this thread... but after I shut down the last one which was up for hours, I received a PM today asking why I closed threads so often.
For the record, we close about one thread a week (at the most)... and usually only after:
* The thread has been up for hours.
* Commenters are starting to repeat each other, and nothing new is really being added.
* We've gotten numerous PMs and flags asking us to close the thread.
This thread has been up for six hours, and seems to meet the other conditions as well (although I have to admit, the kittens and puppies are new to the discussion).
But rather than just close the thread, I thought we'd put it to a vote. I've added a poll to the top of the post - please vote yes or no re: a close.
ps We've proposed a software solution to this issue on the ideas forum... please vote and comment here as well!
Here it is sulaii!
http://boards.weddingbee.com/topic/please-no-more-bees-leave/page/2
@amanda.lynn- yeah that was me who asked him, and he didn't respond.
It still bums me out when threads are closed, and its good to know I'm not the only one who doesn't like it, but I'll let it go.
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I'm just throwing this out there to see how other people feel about this issue.
I never like it when threads are closed. If people are actively posting on the thread, there is obviously interest in it. In my opinion closing a thread totally defeats the purpose of having a message board. There are a lot of people who don't even get the chance to add a comment because the thread was started and closed before they've even had the chance to read it.
What is the criteria for closing a thread to new comments? So far, it seems like the Admins decide based on their feelings on the topic.
I guess my main problem with closing the threads is that the people who seem to want the threads closed have already commented and made their point, so obviously they wouldn't mind if it was closed. But what about those who were not reading the boards during the time the thread was open??
Votes? Thoughts?