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Being honest and without naming names: are there certain bee bloggers you always skip over? Is this because of writing style or by something else? Have you ever been very turned off/offended/irritated by one?
Are there certain bee bloggers you read, time and time again? Are there bees whose archives you just devour? Are there bees you feel are your long-lost twins?
My 2 cents:
Yes and yes.
There are 4 Bees whom I followed since I started here, and I continue to read their archives even though they have been married and their recaps are done.
And there are 2 Bees who have been archived who I just cannot stand - maybe because I feel we would totally not get along in real life. There is also one current blogging bee whose posts are well written but her SO just seems like the most annoying person ever and I can't deal.
So confess - how do you really feel about the Bee?
@invalid_username: The main point of this seems to be bashing and I dont really understand why you would start it. It seems not only snarky, but also like a personal attack. Of course there are bees that not everyone will relate to for one reason or another and others that people will feel more of a bond to, but there is no reason to state your opinion on that....just dont read the ones you dont want to read and do read the ones you like. Its that simple. No need to make ANY of the bees feel like they are unappreciated or that people dont like them.....bee bloggers are going to be wondering "is she talking about me" and honestly thats just rude~!!!
Admin - if you see this can you please take it down? I just dont think its appropriate.
@PitBulLover: I completely agree and I'm not usually one to censor myself. It takes a lot of effort and a lot of guts to put yourself out there like the Bees do, and I don't want ANY of them to think they aren't liked!
@bRooklynRocks: By this same poster or in general? Regardless of how many times its been asked it doesnt make it okay - positive shout outs are wonderful but no need to bring up negativity about particular people
Its one thing to say "I dislike this about the site or the community as a whole" but its a whole other thing to say "I dislike this bee because her SO seems annoying"
@MandaMack: Yeah normally I wouldnt ever say "take this post down" or "thats rude or snarky" to anyone but in this case I just dont see a point to this thread except bashing....
It is called free speech, people. If you don't feel like commenting on it then dont, but there is no reason to "police" or ask for this post to be taken down.
I'm not sure how this is any worse than the post I made with "Is there anyone who you just don't like" which got about 100 posts..
@bRooklynRocks: I haven't seen any posts like this (at least not worded like this) and I've been on here since the beginning of June...
In case you missed the bold statement in the first sentence, I requested no names me named. This was a general question. It's not actually possible to bash someone without naming names. How on earth am I attacking someone I don't even name? Additionally, I asked in equal form, about the Bees you love and can't get enough of... so I'm kind of confused as to how I can be basically trolling for people to be bashed under the rule of not naming names (where the actual bashing would actually happen) and also include opinions on those you love?
And as @bRooklynRocks said, apparently this has been asked before, so I don't see why this post should be treated any differently. I didn't realize it was asked before.
Delete it if you must, but I don't find anything particularly horrible about it, especially since no one in particular is being purposefully targeted.
@babyboo: If you're so into free speach then why would you care if we said we didn't like the post?
All I know is if I were a blogger and I saw this it would make me upset
This seems like a uniquely unproductive thread.
Bee bloggers are very gracious in allowing us to share in a significant part of their lives, and take on what is, essentially, a second job for the duration of their time with the hive. Insinuating, however indirectly, that you don't like one of them without even having the nerve to say so to her face, is cowardly.
It's very simple. If you don't like someone's posts, don't read them. No need to make it known in a public forum that you aren't a fan.
I really don't see how this is different from the "who's your fav blogging bee?" threads-- I am sure the ladies who blog are intelligent enough to realize if no one shouts out to them & could thusly feel left out or unloved that way.
That being said, I find Both types of threads to be somewhat unproductive/unsavoury.
As for the bloggers, I haven't been reading the new ones lately, not that it is anything against the new generation or anything, I've just been in a bit of a wedding funk lately & don't feel like reading the blogs -- I might later on & go back through the archives but right now my overall attitude towards the blogs is 'meh' (and that's not to say there weren't past bloggers that I really enjoyed reading either).
Oh, okay, I get it. We're not allowed to discuss our opinions. Okay. Got it. Thanks for clearin that one up.
@teaadntoast: very well put...thank you!
I guess I dont really care if this is taken down or not Im just saying its not really nice and babyloo I had been on the boards prior to this for about 9 months and NEVER saw posts like this one or the one you posted before until very recently...Im not sure when the bee got so cliquey and snarky...but it did so I just feel like its best to just steer away from that!
@PitBulLover: I've been reading for over 2 years and a member for a year and a half.. the hive works in cycles :)
@babyboo: I guess recently there has been a snarky cycle!! Back when I first started reading the boards people were SOO nice - maybe to a fault I guess?
You are right about free speech - so therefore its fine I guess I was just trying to let the bloggers know that they are all loved by someone (Im sure) and not to feel bad/weird if they see a post like this....... but to each their own I guess!!
@invalid_username: No one said you weren't allowed to discuss your opinions.
Simply that the expression of those opinions might be considered tactless and rude given the setting.
As for free speech, a privately owned and operated website is not the public square. You can say whatever you want in my living room, but if I find it distasteful I can ask you to leave the house.
I will kindly bow out of any drama that is most likely going to ensue within the next 30 minutes, haha :p
@teaadntoast: amen...i wanted to reply to that post but didnt know how. you did beautifully.
@invalid_username: Of course you are allowed to discuss your opinion. But what is the point of this thread anyway? I'm sure this may cause some of the bloggers to feel insecure/unsure of who people are talking about if they start referencing how much certain "anonymous" bloggers irritate them. There are some bloggers that I absolutely love and some that I don't relate to that well. But, that's to be expected - if we have a diverse group of bloggers, of course I will be interested in some more than others. Let's encourage them for all their hard work and effort they put into blogging instead of tearing them down - even anonymously.
Erm, regarding free speech on the Internet... Wedding Bee and most other blogs/forums are moderated and operate within specific community guidelines, therefore it's not, strictly speaking, "free speech." Last time I checked, blog/community/forum owners were able and allowed to censor whatever content they wish.
I didnt even know that about free speech and the internet! But yes, the admin of this site can pull any thread they deem to be inappropriate, rude, snarky, mean, etc. I dont know how theyll feel about this one. I just dont think its a post that is the most productive one and seems to be more negative than positive.
For me, I don't read a lot of bee bloggers so I can't say I dislike a particular one. I don't understand though, in the last few weeks, there's this push to call out that you dislike a board poster/how people use weddingbee/how people use facebook/bee bloggers. I guess the snarky has to go somewhere. I feel like though if I were a bee blogger, I'd be uncomfortable opening up and writing personal posts if I knew people were going to continually judge me for them and not like me because of it.
I honestly don't see how this is any different than a regular review of any other kind. There are book reviews, food reviews, movie reviews, etc. Of course the people who create their projects and art devote tons of time and share tons of feelings, emotions, and literally put their heart and soul into their work. Are multi-million dollar media corporations going to stop rating and reviewing because the critic thought some book was awful, but someone else who read the same book thought it was great, and someone (reader, author, neighbor, friend, etc) is going to get offended? Or quit? Of course not. They are real people, too. They know they are putting themselves out there for the love or the hate. At least this thread requests the courtesy not to do a public call-out.
I don't think the OP is asking everyone to publically name who they hate on the blogs, it's an open question that clearly indicated no names be named.
I do understand what invalid_username is saying to an extent. There are those bloggers that I feel that I don’t really have much in common with and cannot relate to but that is why WeddingBee has several bloggers right? They are different ages, from different areas, and all have different lives. We are not all the same and everyone likes to read something different.
Invalid_username – you probably could have left out the part about not caring for a certain someone’s SO & saying that you ‘CAN’T STAND’ some of them…. lol Not really necessary, that stuff all goes in with that whole snarkiness category.
When I first started reading everything on the Bee I was so glad I found such a nice place. I had previously looked & posted on boards on another big Wedding Website (not going to name names…..)& found that just about all of the girls on there were so MEAN!
Anyways, lets not all attack invalid_username, I’m hoping that she wasn’t trying to hurt anyones feelings. Maybe the discussion should be deleted & made again with only the positive parts?
Let’s try and keep the clutter of unnecessary comments out and keep the Bee a nice place where we all get a long or avoid the ones we don’t care for.
PEACE LADIES!!
Well, considering how NO ONE in this thread has even addressed the original question, I guess I'll be the first. There are no bee bloggers that I love/dislike...only because I don't read the blogs. I wish I could remember the name of the Bee who blogged about a sundress that she completely took apart and remade. It was AWESOME! I've looked at her stuff occassionally, but that's as close to following a blogger that I've ever come.
@PitBulLover: I'm not sure how this is more negative than good. Although the OP does bring up negatives, she was careful to also include an opportunity for positives to be spoken as well. It seems pretty equal to me.
Chiming in as an active-hive-member-turned-blogging-bee...
I for one would not be hurt if I found out that someone didn't like me or my blogs. However, I would be offended that someone found the need to publicly post about their hatred of me unconstructively. Constructive criticism would be fine (i.e. "I get frustrated with Miss So-and-so's blogs because she doesn't post DIY instructions") but just general ranting about how you don't like someone, where they can read it, is poor form.
Not everyone likes everyone. There are people that I don't like in real life, but for the sake of decorum, I don't feel the need to make a general announcement about it.
Why bother posting a thread where, inevitably, feelings will be hurt? Even without names named, I'm sure that some of us will be sitting here thinking "Oh, man... is she talking about ME?" This thread just seems really unseemly.
Can't we just agree that of course some readers identify with some bloggers over others, and let it go?
@One2-Three4: An author is paid for writing her book, an actor is paid for his performance and a recording artist is paid for sales of their records. A bee blogger gets no monetary compensation and is basically doing all of us a big favor writing for the hive.
It's the difference between seeing clothes on a model and saying, "You know, I really think Prada has gown downhill this season" and remarking that your friend's homemade dress is really tacky.
Except you don't even have the guts to do it to her face and istead imply that SOMEONE you know makes STUFF that you totally hate.
And I know when I walk out the door that people might not like what I have to say, think, wear, read, eat, etc. But just because I'm outside doesn't mean it's socially acceptable for someone I've never met to come up and give me an earfull about my poor taste.
@PumpkinSpiceChai: I wasn't being sarcastic, I seriously do understand that people can't have opinions on this board. And that's okay. Doesn't really promote free conversation, but whatever.
Your entire comment does not reflect, even remotely, what my point was here. I am not attempting to have people tear down the bloggers. Hell, I'm specifically asking none of them even be named!
Ahh, that's the problem here. All it takes is one person to grossly misinterpret something and in turn post a comment which bears little significance to the actual point, and now a hundred people just jump onto the bandwagon.
I feel like there are a lot of threads about this lately! To be honest, there is no Bee that I actually follow. When I have time, I surf the recent blog posts for a title that interests me. Only ONCE in my ENTIRE time on this site did a Bee say something that actually offended me. And it had to do with music, really nothing controversial at all. So I don't seek out her posts, but I wouldn't avoid reading her because of it or anything.
I've met a few Bee's in person and they were JUST AS FABULOUS in person as they are in the virtual world. I admire them putting so much time and creativity into the blog, without them we wouldn't all be here!
@invalid_username: You created a post a moth ago announcing your departure from the hive and how it was growing old for you. If you're not into it anymore, that's fine. But do you need to hang around and try to stir up criticism?
I'm not jumping onto any bandwagon. I had the same reaction that I do now when I read your post before anyone even started commenting.
@invalid_username: As was previously explained, you are welcome to have an opinion. That other people might think that opinion is, to put it mildly, poorly expressed, is the consequence of saying whatever pops into your head at a given moment.
Say whatever you please, but be prepared for people to tell you in similarly blunt terms precisely what they think.
@babyboo: YES!!!! Thank you so much!!!! I'm so horrible at remembering her name that it probably takes me a good 10 minutes of going through the Blogg lists before her name seems familiar!
@beekiss2: Oops, we must have been writing at the same time. I kept getting distracted by the daily four letter word (work), so it probably looks like I posted way after you. lol
Meh - I'm kinda feeling bad for OP, here. There have been a good handful of posts on the same sort of topic here in the past month and no one has gotten as up in arms. I don't see a point, so I don't generally post on them, but there are plenty of topics that I'm not into and I don't read the posts about them. I don't think invalid_u meant any harm...
@teaadntoast: Okay, so what you're saying is, it's okay to share your opinions on someone if they put themselves "out there" while receiving monetary compensation? Or they are professionals? I didn't realize reviews or judgments had a dividing line between when it's okay and when it's not.
Again, I think you guys are missing that the OP's post had an entire other half to it, which I assume was added to equal this out. I think it's safe to say that totally failed, because people can't get over this outrageous notion that the OP is trying to get people to call out bloggers by name and tear down their writing styles.
Hm...I could turn this another way. What if all the blogging bees got together and started complaining about the board posters? I know I wouldn't feel too good about it.
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