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So I talked to a bridal store today that is really good and helpful. They said that what I *suspected* and was worried about was true:
**Your ivory dress will CLASH with white linens** It could make your dress look yellow even if it is a light ivory!
If you order an ivory dress you must have ivory linens or an organza ivory overlay on top of the white table cloths.
So guess what? I regret getting an ivory dress even more! The sales people pushed ivory at me. I am not going to listen to my parents either, I am renting ivory linens then!!!
Depending on your skin tone, ivory may have looked better on you. I'm pale so I couldn't go with a white dress because it would have washed me out.
I somewhat agree that it won't "match" the exact shade of the table linens, but there's no reason it needs to be an exact match. Being NOT white is the appeal of ivory.
ETA - I'm pale too, so they recommended ivory (diamond white). I used white linens and white flowers, and it looked fine.
Oh, and the groom/groomsmen wore white shirts and that was fine too :) despite what the people at the suit rental place will tell you.
i've seen this debate on here before, but my two cents are that i've seen ivory dresses paired with white shirts on the men and white linens plenty of times and it looks perfectly fine. no one is going to sit there and say "wow her dress looks dirty next to those white linens!" i swear this is a lie made up by the bridal industry to get you to pay extra money to upgrade from standard white linens, shirts, etc.
My mom is a photographer and I had her do some test shots as I was worried about this also. I saw nothing that made my dress look dirty in the photos. I would say to try this out yourself, it all may be in how the photos are lit, and how the room is lit.
I don't know...the lights will be a little dim a the reception...I'm thinking this isn't going to be a significant problem, even in photos. I could be wrong, and heaven knows I'm not exactly fashion forward. Heck, I'm even going to carry white flowers with my ivory dress.
If you have the money and WANT to put it toward custom ivory linens, by all means do it. But further to my point, I thought I'd stick up a picture of me standing beside beside my white linens in my off-white dress. To my eye, not a big deal at all.
I hate that the bridal industry tries to freak you out about how terrible things will look. Mine was that I got pretty much BERATED at the tux store about white shirts making my dress look dingy like it was the number one bridal sin, and making me cry... needless to say we didn't order from there.
@SapphireSun:do you mind if i ask what flowers are in your bouquet? I love it.
I'm a flower dummy, and my aunt made it from whatever was available at the flower wholesaler a couple days before the wedding. I know there were mums, fresias, hypernicum, white roses. Just to avoid hi-jacking this thread, I'll PM you a close-up.
Oops, it doesn't let me attach pictures to a PM, so sorry to the OP for the sideshow here!
I had an ivory dress with white EVERYTHING else. Never noticed. (Pronovias ivory.) Honestly I have a hard time picturing it clashing THAT much. I have yet to see a picture that proves this theory. Maybe "ivory" is a lot more golden for some designers?
This is not necessarily a bad thing. I went to a wedding recently where the bride coordinated the lines with her champagne dress. The dress was polyester satin and when she was sitting down I couldn't help but notice that the skirt looked like it was a part of the tablecloth.
this completely untrue.. i have attended and many wedding wear the linens were white and the gown was ivory and it looked perfectly fine. since when do people have to dress to match their linens anyway?
i'm really sorry but this post made me laugh a little. My dress clashing with the table linens is just about the last thing I'd spend any time worrying about. I promise, NO ONE will notice the difference :)
I'm going to chalk this up to bridal brain and your bridal salon taking advantage of it. The ivory dress is probably more flattering on you than a white one... that's the case for most (not all) folks. So which is worse... not matching your table linens or not having a flattering dress?
Your ivory dress will NOT look dirty next to white linens. Ivory and white look beautiful together. It's a very rich and classy combination. However, if you get ivory linens, your linens WILL look dirty, because people expect linens to be white, unless they are definite color other than white.
When I was shopping for my dress, I was concerned about the ivory thing too. Jim looks fantastic in a pure white shirt with an ice-blue tie, and that's what I imagine he'll wear. Anyway, the owner of the bridal shop told me I had nothing to worry about in regards to me wearing an ivory dress and Jim wearing a white shirt. She said they look fine together. Her shop sells wedding dresses and rents tuxes, and she is also a textile specialist, so I trust completely.
Plus, I've never seen any pictures from weddings where the wedding dress looked dirty just because it was ivory.
Yup, I had an ivory dress and was all kinds of stressed out about it clashing with my white polka dots that I used to decorate everything. But it was so not a big deal, you definitely couldn't tell when everything was all together. Don't stress! :)
Maybe I am not like others. But I can totally tell the difference between the white and ivory in that picture *Sapphire* posted. You might have liked it being *not white* but I have a very light ivory dress and regret getting it...ivory looks Yellowish to me when I see it against white, and I DO NOT want a yellow looking dress......
the sales people told me that they hardly ever get ivory orders, etc....1 in 100....i so regret it!
I am definitely going to rent the ivory....as someone said, ivory doesnt look white, so yes indeed it will CLASH. My ivory looks white when its against ivory, if you know what i mean, but not when its against Stark White....it just looks YELLOW. The whole place will be all decorated in stark white linens.tablecloths,chair covers, and the walls are white and light yellow......very noticeable, not like its just someones shirt or polka dots.....thats nothing...
My ivory looks almost white, which is what I want.....i dont want something that doesnt look like that.
I had navy overlays on my tables so the white/ivory thing wasn't an issue.
Honestly, both the linens and the dress will be white, just different shades of white. And even if you had all the linens be ivory, there is no way they would be the exact same shade as your dress. On the other hand, people are not going to be holding your dress against the linens and frowning in disapproval. This is definitely a nonissue.
Definitely not saying that if I put a swatch of my dress beside a swatch of my table linens I couldn't SEE that they weren't the same colour. That said, I don't find that varied shades of the same colour "clash", they're just not an exact match. I don't find ivory/white combo to be on the same level as if I ever got stuck in a baby pink bridesmaid's dress when I leave my hair red.
But, it's a matter of personal preference. I find that variegated shades give depth and interest, but if you prefer everything to match exactly there's no harm there either.
I agree with meliss. I like the fact that the dress doesn't match perfectly with the linens in that picture. It gives a little contrast so the dress doesn't blend in too much. That being said I'm not sure anyone will notice or it'll stand out a lot in the pictures.
@SapphireSun: I think your dress is beautiful. I do see a bit of a shade difference between your dress and the linens, but I have to say your dress just looks like a richer shade of white.
@Loribeth: I agree with you. It still looks white, it doesn't look yellow at all to me.
@Loribeth: Thanks! My feelings are definitely not hurt. Everybody's entitled to their own taste. If you came to my house, you'd see that I'm definitely not the "matchy-matchy" kind of decorator there either.
I thought the OP was upset that someone was TELLING her that her white/ivory combo was going to clash, so I wanted to point out that it's not worth losing sleep over. But, if it's her personal opinion, then she should definitely make adjustments until she's happy.
@starry: Ivory comes in different undertones. The undertones usually are pink, yellow, green or orange. Vintage ivory dresses had a yellow undertone and were much darker than today's ivory, which is really more of an off-white with a pink undertone than a true ivory.
Since the color difference is such a concern for you, I would suggest that you check the color of the actual linens that will be used next to your dress. Compare the white and the ivory with your dress. My fear is the ivory linens will be too dark next to your dress. If it is, I would suggest getting the white linens and getting ivory organza or something similar to go over the white linens.
I personally like ivory and white together. My dress is ivory, because the ivory complimented my skin tone better, but I am still thinking about wearing white gloves, simply because I think white gloves are more elegant.
I'm sure you'll work it out no matter what you decide to do and that your wedding and pictures will look fantastic.
I don't care if my dress matches the ivory. Meaning, I don't care if the ivory table linens look too dark or whatever. I don't care if they are a different color. My colors are lavender and navy.... I just care if it doesn't appear to be *white* looking....and looks yellow instead. I was saying having ivory ones, even if they are darker, won't make the dress look yellow. I've seen pictures of this venue on yelp when its decorated for weddings and it looks STARK WHITE> NOT GOOD!!
I wasn't saying the person with the picture's dress looked yellow...I was saying, that I noticed the difference, and when I was in the store, I held up a white dress to my ivory dress and it makes the ivory dress appear yellow, and I don't want that. No, i dont think a dress looks dirty....I just dont want a yellow tinted dress... the yellow pops out on ivory dresses when its next to white, if you all didnt know.
I noticed a big color difference between ivory and white satins too, but much less so against the white cotton shirt my mom was wearing while I was trying on dresses. I think a lot of the stark contrast was because the white satin was so shiny.
If ivory linens will make you feel better about the wedding, go for it, but I'm on Team Content To Rock An Ivory Gown While Everything Else Is White, haha.
Don't worry about this. First of all, your dress will look fine against the white, and even if it didn't, you're only going to be next to the table linens during dinner, and everyone else will be stuffing their faces, too. Not a soul will notice, not that there will be anything to notice. :)
I can tell the difference in the photo posted...but BARELY. And because I was looking for it. Guests won't be looking for that...I think that's one of those things only you would know about. Does that make sense? Kinda like how only brides care about envelope liners? Because the wedding industry makes up all these random details that don't really matter.
You will look great! And I think it's awesome you chose Ivory. For the record, I did too because it went better with the vintagey/rustic feeling to our wedding and to me white is too churchy for my garden ceremony.
Well, of all the things wedding related to be worried about, I'd probably put this one at the bottom of the list. Did the people telling you it would clash also tell you there are a million shades of ivory, depending on the fabric and manufacturer? Unless you'll be sitting right on top of your table getting pictures taken, not one soul will even notice.
In one daughter's wedding we used white linens, and her gown was diamond white and champagne. If anything ,the slight difference in color made her dress look even more beautiful. Who wants to blend in with the tablecloth?
In the other wedding we used ivory and turquoise linens and her gown was also ivory. Every single thing I bought in ivory was a different shade...tablecloths,chair covers,napkins....altogether it looked fabulous and not in the least matchy matchy. To me, that makes an event look far more interesting.
I'd seriously reconsider changing everything if things have already been ordered. You'll be driving yourself crazy!
Question - If your colors are navy and lavendar, can you just have navy or lavendar linens and avoid this issue entirely? I mean, you're already talking about renting linens, so why not go the simplest route and just avoid this entire problem?
PS - I still question your bridal salon. Do a quick head count around here of those who have ivory dresses. I promise it's more than 1 in 100. Either your bridal salon is a total anamoly, or someone is trying to take advantage of you. I think maybe you should trust them just a smidge less hon.
ok then u better call up all your guests and make sure they match your room 2. are u serious?? ivory is a shade of white nothing is going to completly match and who cares! you do not have to match the room who says thats a rule? no one matches rooms when they go into them and pictures look fine.
I'll never understand why people get freaked out about clashing with a room. have you ever in your entire life worried about clashing with room decor? I don't know how or where or when this all started but it's really silly. We've gone our whole lives clashing with room decor, our friends outfits in pictures, and not matching our napkins during dinner parties. Has anyone ever really noticed? The dress is ivory-not geen and purple polka dots with zebra table clothes. My dress color was called "pearl" which was almost like a tea stained white and my table clothes were ivory and the napkins were white. Who even cared? no one.
Is this bridal shop that told you your ivory dress would look yellow next to white linens the same bridal shop where you bought your dress? From what you have said, it sounds as though they are making you regret the dress you chose, and I bet your dress is absolutely gorgeous. Some shops are unethical in that they'll try to make a bride feel bad about a dress she already bought by telling her she won't be able coordinate her decor hoping she'll buy a different dress from them.
I know you said it was really good and helpful, but they've made you regret your choice of gown color, and that's not begin helpful at all.
I know there are a lot more brides than 1 in 100 who buy ivory dresses. I bought an ivory dress, and I've noticed that on most of the used bridal dress sites, there are more ivory dresses for sale than white. Also, most of the designers use ivory dresses in their advertisements because they are easier to photograph, white can look very harsh with flash photography.
Ultimately, you have to be happy with the look of your wedding and wedding reception. It's all part of making your day special. If paying extra for ivory linens will make you happier about the color of your dress, then you should definitely get ivory linens. I just hope you find a way to not regret anything about your dress, because it is such an important part of your entire wedding.
My wedding was two days ago. My dress was ivory, the men's tuxes were white, the linens were white. It looked fine!!!
I'm wearing an ivory dress and having white linens. I'm not worried about it at all.
No one is going to notice. Hell, most guests wont even remember what the decor really looked like, much less if your dress matched it.
@starry: You sound really worried about it and seems like noone's input to the contrary will ease your mind, so you should probably go ahead and rent the ivory linens just to feel better. It's not worth spending your time stressing over some minute detail like that.
I don't think the bridal store you're talking is so that helpful though, at least in giving you accurate information. If you post a poll here about who has a white dress vs ivory, more than 50% will probably respond with ivory. I don't know why a salon will make a ridiculous claim as only 1 in 100 brides order ivory. They definitely should know better.
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