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    nybride77      

    Help!  Thanks :) I've read a few different guidelines for tipping the catering staff - some say that you should give them 15% of the food bill, others say you should give them each $20. My problem is that our caterer is a small company, the chef/manager is the owner, and she is bringing three servers, two bartenders, and a kitchen assistant.  The total contract price is $7500 ($60 a person) and that includes food, service and rentals.  We are supplying our own alcohol.  So, I have no idea how much the food part of the contract is, and even if I were to guess, say, $3500, 15% of that is $525.  Splitting that between three servers and the kitchen assistant seems excessive and WAY different than giving them each a $20.  Plus, for the bartenders, since we are buying the alcohol, I don't know what "bar sales" would be.  

    Any advice?  I did double check that gratuities aren't included. I plan to buy the owner a nice gift after, instead of at tip (since she owns the company).  t

     
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    crebre80    November 20, 2010   Baton Rouge, LA

    Hmmm... I think my take is slightly different on this, in a restaurant the servers would receive between 15-20% of the total bill (of the 60 per person) so that's about 12 dollars-ish.  I would tip them anywhere from 50-100 per person depending on their service.  If they suck, I wouldn't tip them at all.

    eta per server not per guest, sorry for the confusion.

     
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    nybride09    9/19/09   New York, NY

    our location tacks on 20% (i've seen 21% in some cases) on food and drink for gratuity. $20 each sounds a tad low for ny standards.

     
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    baffled111       Walla Walla WA

    $20 each definitely seems too low. I would talk to the caterer about this. Tell her that you want to tip appropriately and can she give you some guidelines. You could even tell her that you want to tip each server 18% and ask her if she could calculate that for you and add it on to the bill.

     
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    bruschetta    August 29, 2009   Philadelphia

    Oh, I'm so confused, too!  If another bee doesn't do it, I think I'm gonna hafta get some research done and write a post about this!

     
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    seinahpets    August 21, 2009   Seattle, WA

    if the caterer has factored in gratuity into our proposal, does that mean i don't have to tip?  i'm a little confused...

     
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    cantabrigian    July 18, 2009   Stowe, VT

    I would start by asking your caterer for an itemized bill. Then you know how much of the bill is for food, rentals, etc. You will only need to tip on food. On our contract, an 18% service charge was included for waitstaff. In our final bill, our caterer noted that if we would like to include an additional gratuity, to include that in our final payment. We included extra in our payment equaling approximately 22% total for service.

    I hope this was appropriate!

     
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    Thanks, guys.  I thought $20 was low (I live in NYC but the wedding is actually in WV...but still), but I can't figure out what's right.  I guess I should just ask the caterer.  I wish there was a rule of thumb, though!  

     
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    And seinahpets, I think if the gratuity is factored in, you don't have to tip extra unless you want to (for great service or something).

     
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    I found this on the knot, which may be where I read about the $20 rule the first time (sorry, I am still stumped about this, obviously!).  I still think $20 seems low though...

    Tipping isn't mandatory -- a tip is an added reward for service well done. That said, unless one of your vendors really botches something, they’ll probably expect at least a small amount of gratuity. Before you start forking over the dough, be sure you check with your reception site to see whether they have any policies regarding tips (same goes for your limo or other transportation). If, for example, they already have a gratuity or service charge built into your fee, you shouldn't feel compelled to add anything onto that. Otherwise, you should probably plan on tipping your hair and makeup pros (15-20%, just like at the salon); delivery people (about $5-$10 each); parking, coat check, or restroom attendants ($1 per car or per guest), waitstaff ($20 per staff member, plus more for the manager and/or headwaiter); and bartenders ($20 for each). As for your officiant, you should expect to tip a nondenominational officiant between $50-$100. Or, if you're an active member, plan to donate $500 or more to your officiant's church, synagogue, or temple. The good news: Your bridal salon, cake baker, stationer, and party rental company will not be expecting tips. To make it easier, designate someone (a bridesmaid, groomsman, or family member) to be in charge of tipping. Set aside a predetermined amount for each vendor, and place tips in sealed, labeled envelopes (you can even include a little note as well). That way, you won't have to worry about counting out cash when you should be dashing off to your honeymoon destination.

     
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    baffled111       Walla Walla WA

    What is the Knot talking about?

    In many states, servers earn $2 an hour--they work almost exclusively for tips! $20 for the night would be a TERRIBLE night's earnings.

    Be direct with the caterer and ask them what they expect from you. They will probably appreciate it. (And certainly more than being tipped $20 for a whole night's work!)

     
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    Valerie1400      

    I would ask the caterer and your wedding planner what's appropriate.     I didn't think a tip that big was needed - we are doing closer to $20 a person ( not sure if that's ok though now after reading this ).

     
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    ^    I think servers with catering companies make more than $2 an hour though - I'm almost positive they make $12-$15 ( Bay Area ) ,    but I'm going to see if I'm supposed to tip.

     
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    ScotIrishGirl    March 20, 2008   Memphis, TN

    Not trying to say this is the only way things work, but I have worked as a server for a catering company where I served at both weddings and corp events.  I made very good money for the night and never really saw any tips on top of that.  I read an article not to long ago (can't remember where now! ugh!) talking about how out of control tipping is at American weddings.  I would interested to see some type of comparative look at tipping across multiple countries.  And just to throw my 2 cents in - my caterer included an 18% gratuity in the contract; so I'm considering my tipping done.

     
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    Yeah, catering servers definitely earn more than restaurant servers (or at least mind do).  I was a server for a long time, I know how bad the pay is - I would definitely never tip only $20 each if they were making $2.13 an hour (which is what I made). 

     
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    bluespurrs    August 7, 2009   South-central PA, USA, Earth

    Our location included a hefty service fee so I did not tip at all. In fact every vendor got their pie of the pie, so to speak and my hairdresser was the only person involved with the wedding who got a tip. And that's because he did my highlights and wedding day hair styling for free!

     
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    smyley    May 2010  

    Ours charged 7% sales tax plus 20% gratuity. We still tipped the maitre d, consultant provided by hotel,and 2 bartenders $100. each. They were surprised,but pretty happy about it!

     

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