Contract Question

posted 3 years ago in Photos/Videos
Post # 3
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294 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

Please ask your photographer for a disc and full rights to the photos. In fact- I hate when photographers try to keep their rights on any photos at all. So IMO- you should have the complete disc and rights for ALL your photographs

Post # 4
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1067 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: September 2014

@Tbblount:  it seems like you have no problem 🙂 you’re already getting a disc of all of the images with a release, so you can order the prints you’d like from the disc at a drugstore if you’d like.

Post # 6
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1981 posts
Buzzing bee
  • Wedding: November 2014

@Tbblount: l would ask your photog about the rights to the engagement photos and a disk. Are you doing a photo montage/ video? I would say that you need the e pictures for that bc it isn’t a print, you need the digital files, and you would need it before the wedding. Maybe he will give it for free, or he might charge you- if it’s less than making the canvas through him I would buy the rights. Thanks for the reminder to read all wedding contracts VERY carefully!! Good luck!

 

Post # 8
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1243 posts
Bumble bee

@Tbblount:  Our package included 1 8×10 engagement picture. When I selected it, she emailed me the high res image as well.  (We purchased an additional picture/print for $30 and likewise, she also gave us that image).

Thank for your update–i hadn’t considered asking her to purchase the high res images of our e-session.

Post # 10
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294 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

I think you should talk to him and say 300 for a disc of the bridal+ engagement- so that way you get more for your money. They are technically YOUR photos! I never understood why a photographer would want the rights to someone else’s day. That just seems stupid to me.

Post # 11
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1315 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

@limekitty:  In the United States they are technically NOT your photos unless the photographer specifically hands over the copyright to you.  I have never come across any professional wedding photographer in my 7 years of being in the business that hands over the copyrights to their work.  If that was a common practice you wouldn’t be able to find a wedding photographer online because they wouldn’t be able to post images of the work. What is however very common is including a print release with a disc or drive of images so that the client may purchase prints from other sources other than them.  A print release is worded in my cases that the client has permission to send the images to the lab of their choice, and in the my own case my print release also grants them permission to post the images online.

OP – this business model of the photographer you have selected seems a bit outdated to me. Having a print release is something that is important to a lot of people, and it needs to be discussed before signing a contract.  

 

Post # 13
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294 posts
Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

@continuumphotography:  

Hi! I had no idea actually! I’m based in the US and have spoken with numerous photographers about my wedding day. Each one comes with personal use rights to all my photos (however- as I’m not IN the business, I don’t actually know if that comes with any other stipulations, if they do, I would love to know).

I purposefully do not contact photographers who state that I only get “some” photos or that I won’t be provided with a full CD/USB with every single image captured from my day. This is extremely important to me and would feel weird not having.

I also looked for this with all my boudoir photography and engagement photoshoots.

Post # 14
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Busy bee
  • Wedding: August 2014

@Tbblount:  Yes this is very common to provide wedding images but have couples print engagement/bridal photos through the photographer. This is additional income. It’s also commonly done because so many couples print engagement and/or bridal photos for display at the reception, so we as photographers want to make sure that someone isn’t displaying a really poorly printed version of our image framed for display in front of 100+ people at the wedding. I once had a bride print her bridal portrait at like 16×24 from Walmart and the colors/contrast looked AWFUL and not at all the way I had edited it and people just assumed that was my work and it reflected poorly on me even though I didn’t print the image. So after that I said never again. 🙂

$300 for the disc in incredibly reasonable. I would definitely choose that option. Remember that when you print through your photographer they are likely doing additional touch-ups and editing so that time is considered in the price of our prints vs. mass market online printers who work off volume to make a profit.

Post # 15
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1315 posts
Bumble bee
  • Wedding: May 2006

@limekitty:  No worries.  There are lots of misconceptions about copyright law, what it entails, and why you’d need or not need it.  In the case of the end user, the couple, you do not need copyright to enjoy your photos or show them off.  If you are trying to sell them for profit, then you run into issues.

Just as another FYI to you, it is extremely uncommon for professionals to show work that is not up to a certain level of standard.  Meaning you are highly unlikely to find a wedding photographer of any merit who is going to turn over every single image they captured from your day.  First and foremost, no one wants all of the photos.  You may think you do, but you do not want the test shots, blurry shots, unflattering shots, over or under exposed shots, or multiple shots of the same exact thing.  I may take 15 photos of the same pose because I want your eyelashes on your left eye to be perfectly in focus.  You don’t need the other 14 shots of the same thing. You don’t want to see yourself caught in mid sentence, or making a horribly awkward face. Most photographers will deliver 50-100 finished images per hour of service.  I’m not sure if that was your exact meaning, but if it was I think you’re going to have a very tough time finding someone who is willing to do what you’re asking.

Post # 16
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Helper bee
  • Wedding: April 2015

@continuumphotography:  

Oh- Yes! I totally agree with that and is definitely what I mean. I just felt like with OP- the photographer was holding their photos hostage because they wouldn’t provide any digital images. I totally don’t want 80 pictures of the same pose, especially if the 81st picture is like- the best one! 

However- seeing some other replies to this thread, I totally understand why people would want to make sure their images were printed correctly and that their work was represented well!

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